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A few lessons I learned and recommendations.

1. Make sure your credit report is accurate and if there are negative reports do whatever you can to remove them. Depending on whether you have the time etc, you may want to consider utilizing a legitimate credit repair agency. If you know you're not disciplined with your money, this is the time to start. SAVE SAVE SAVE.

Where I made a mistake: When I decided I was going to start buying properties, I had never been in the habit of checking my credit reports. Come to find out, my credit report was showing my student loan TWICE. Mind you the loan was in good standing, but it appeared individually AND when I consolidated/refinanced. So the total amount of outstanding debt was TWICE the actual amount. Luckily I was able to get it quickly/easily removed, but easily avoidable.

2. Do research on any down payment assistance programs, or grants through any local agencies for real estate investors that create affordable housing. For instance if you want to buy a duplex and will rent out the other unit via section 8. You may be able to get some free money for a down payment AND grant money for your rehab.

Where I made the mistake: Completely missed out with my first property - mostly because I did all this on my own, without any mentors etc to guide me. Never again. Downpayment assistance is only available on your first property but the other grants etc, in my experience, are always available no matter how many properties.

3. Speak to a wide variety of real estate brokers and go with one that is based in the area of town that you're considering. Also make sure to "interview" them in the sense of ensuring they have sufficient experience in homes in your price range. And if they have experience with flippers etc, then they may be able to help you avoid properties that have major issues you may not see. You don't want to find out about an obvious (to someone who knows what they're looking at) structural issue after you've already entered the contingency period or during the inspection.

Where I made the mistake: The first realtor I used, by the 3rd or 4th place we looked at, was obviously more experienced with single family properties and was not familiar with the areas in which I was interested. So minor issues like logistics became a problem (he was driving from the burbs), and I could tell he didn't know enough about how to look at a home's condition and 1) explain whether this was an immediate concern or something that can be lived with 2) look beneath the surface to find issues that the seller is trying to hide (ALWAYS ASSUME THIS IS THE CASE) and 3) look at a property through the lens of a future rental unit.

Luckily I realized what was happening and ended up using a different realtor. I let the original realtor know why I made the change, thanked him for his time and sent him a gift card just as a token of appreciation. The reason being that you never want to ghost on a professional. They may be of use down the line and in this case that's exactly what happened. We kept in touch and he would give me inside scoop on the markets and a heads up on properties before they hit the MLS.
 

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Anyone have experience with owning property in foreign markets?

I've been looking at classifieds in various African countries. I assume you'd need a good property manager to oversee and to really know the land laws to not get finessed?
 

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2. Do research on any down payment assistance programs, or grants through any local agencies for real estate investors that create affordable housing. For instance if you want to buy a duplex and will rent out the other unit via section 8. You may be able to get some free money for a down payment AND grant money for your rehab.

but the other grants etc, in my experience, are always available no matter how many properties.

Grants???

Are you talking about a 203k loan?
 

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Grants???

Are you talking about a 203k loan?

No sir. Actual grants. The only "catch" is that you may have to agree to set aside units ONLY for affordable housing. But if your property is not in the best part of town, that's not really a negative since section 8 rent will almost always be more than what you'll get in the private market.

The key is doing the research to find the agencies. Most of the time they are public/private partnerships/non profits that specialize in housing.
 

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Da city where the skinny nikkas die
I'm seen as American first ... then black second... it's bizzarre...

yup. this is always what I tell people about my experience in Spain and Italy. It's kind of refreshing but it puts you in an interesting bind when a foreigner goes in on America and looks at you. Meanwhile you're like "I don't fukk with that shyt either!"​

This guy told me he does month to month leases only, 2 months + 1st first month rent as deposit, no credit check, cash only and he hasn't had an issue with tenants since then. Most people want their two months back when they leave, especially when you'e looking at a couple thousand so they leave the place in immaculate condition.

:patrice: this seems like a smart setup in the right areas.​
 

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Anyone have experience with owning property in foreign markets?

I've been looking at classifieds in various African countries. I assume you'd need a good property manager to oversee and to really know the land laws to not get finessed?

Unless you have family that you can actually trust, or if it's some place that you actually visit regularly, I would stay away. Too many variables and you can/might get finessed by corrupt local govt officials etc. Not to mention lending rules and the laws regulating ownership of land by foreign individuals can be very confusing/stringent. If you have the money to invest, there are plenty of opportunities locally - wherever you may live.
 

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No sir. Actual grants.
The key is doing the research to find the agencies. Most of the time they are public/private partnerships/non profits that specialize in housing.

I checked grants.gov, and found nothing. Maybe I missed something so I contacted the site address for assistance.
Are you searching the HUD site?
 

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I checked grants.gov, and found nothing. Maybe I missed something so I contacted the site address for assistance.
Are you searching the HUD site?

Every city has a downpayment assistance program.

Go to your cities housing or development authority site and check.

Atlanta has this for example: Invest Atlanta | Atlanta Development Authority

Also check various banks: Wells Fargo NeighborhoodLIFT Program – Down Payment Assistance – Wells Fargo


Unless you have family that you can actually trust, or if it's some place that you actually visit regularly, I would stay away. Too many variables and you can/might get finessed by corrupt local govt officials etc. Not to mention lending rules and the laws regulating ownership of land by foreign individuals can be very confusing/stringent. If you have the money to invest, there are plenty of opportunities locally - wherever you may live.

So you mean my dream of having a beach rental property in Senegal and a commercial property in Ethiopia is a pipe dream? :mjcry:
 
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I checked grants.gov, and found nothing. Maybe I missed something so I contacted the site address for assistance.
Are you searching the HUD site?

Try the local HUD office first. Then depending on if you're in a relatively large city look up the office that administers the Section 8 program. Then research housing specific non profit agencies. They don't make it easy to find. Gotta put in the time.
 
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ok, let's talk about plumbing

whether for the place you stay or for rental property...I'd always recommend getting Moen or Delta fixtures. They have legit lifetime warranties for parts. Buy, register..call for replacement parts...very simple.

For shower fixtures...you always want to swap out the head with a low flow one...as low as the people will tolerate.

Also check your state's energy website for deals, rebates and discounts offered either by the state or by local utility companies for water or energy saving options.

Now, a question. Has any one here ever used a plumbing maintenance plan? I guess it's most similar to the heater/boiler service programs that utility companies offer. I've never know of anyone that has one for plumbing and if anybody as signed up...I'd like to pick your brain and ask a few questions.
 

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Last week, five Baltimore City Councilors called on the city to revive the $1 home program from the 1980s designed to rehabilitate long-vacant properties. This proposal contrasts with a nearly $700 million state and city effort to demolish and replace 4,000 such buildings.

Unfortunately, Baltimore has a great many empty buildings. The city’s population peaked at nearly 950,000 in 1950 and has declined each decade since then, falling to about 615,000 people in 2016. This population decline contributed to over 16,000 vacant buildings. Aside from being an eyesore, these vacant and deteriorating buildings may also attract incidents of violent crime.

In the face of this seeming intractable problem, the nearly $700 million investment to rid the city of many vacant properties might appear to be a godsend. Announced in January 2016, the four-year Project CORE (Creating Opportunities for Renewal and Enterprise) has nearly $100 million to demolish entire rows of buildings and leave lots that are “clean and green” according to the project FAQ. Further, the state has promised $600 million in incentives and subsidies from existing programs to spur new development. Not everyone is happy.

Preservation Maryland and Baltimore Heritage are urging the city to seek alternatives to widespread demolition. The two organizations call for stabilizing historic vacant properties through new investments in the city’s Vacants to Value program, which seeks to redevelop city-owned vacant properties, and earmarking money for that purpose under Project CORE. Reviving the $1 home scheme may also be a good place to start.

Councilor Mary Pat Clarke’s revived the idea this past August and the Housing and Urban Affairs Committee held a hearing last Wednesday to discuss her resolution. Clarke’s proposal comes with the backing of H.O.M.E.S. a Baltimore-based community advocacy organization focused on rehabilitating rather than destroying many of the city’s vacant properties. (H.O.M.E.S. stands for Homeownership Opportunity for Mentorship and Economic Success.) The group says under the original scheme, prospective owners would purchase the building for $1 and commit to living in and repairing it.

The estimated cost to restore the properties was as a high as $100,000, so the city made low-interest loans available to new owners. With a one percent interest rate, Clarke’s resolution notes that new homeowners could pay as little as $300 per month to repay the loan. With the same terms in the 1980s, H.O.M.E.S. says no new owner defaulted on their loans. During the hearing, representatives from Mayor Pugh’s administration were less optimistic about the program. They said the federal funding available in the past is gone today, and that more comprehensive block-wide proposals are needed this time.


Baltimore may sell homes for $1 instead of demolishing them
 

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Last week, five Baltimore City Councilors called on the city to revive the $1 home program from the 1980s designed to rehabilitate long-vacant properties. This proposal contrasts with a nearly $700 million state and city effort to demolish and replace 4,000 such buildings.

great post

gonna look into ways to get around the (possible) residency requirement.
 
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