The_King_of_Everything
Yeah.
How did he fall off when his last solo album was a classic? 
Remember When Kanye Was Making Classics Like...
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bordeaux
xxx
i wouldn't call them classic either, just great music...it should be pointed out he is not even producing these tracks nowadays. he's basically dr. dre.
954UAlreadyknow
All Star
Dark Fantasy is the most overrated album ever
Anything after LR is nothing special
nikka rap about bullshyt now
Anything after LR is nothing special
nikka rap about bullshyt now
TrueEpic08
Dum Shiny
Am I the only one who thinks WTT AND Cruel Summer are crack?
No Church, Paris, Gotta Have It, Murder to Excellence, Who Gon Stop Me, New Day, Why I Love You - Crack
Clique, Mercy, New God Flow, The Morning, Cold, Higher, Sin City - Crack
I think most people dig these tracks and probably ones I didn't mention - that's a majority of both albums yet it's not enough? So Kanye fell off cos every single fan can't agree that every song on these two albums is good?
Nope.
I'm just going to speak for myself here, but just having a lot of good songs on every album isn't enough. I hate Watch the Throne for what it represents, so lets work with Cruel Summer. From the opener to "Higher," the album has a tremendous flow to it, great production, etc. Not nearly as good or evocative lyrically as My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy or any of Kanye's album's really (808s and Heartbreak included), but this isn't a Kanye album, right?
Cruel Summer proceeds to completely fall apart after that, in a really bad way, and the quality of the first 6 or 7 songs aren't enough to keep it elevated to great or even pretty good status. It's decent stuff all around, but this is Kanye's first big misfire, largely because it isn't marked with the careful attention to detail and consistent quality that marked all of his other projects, even with all of those good to great songs that I just mentioned.
As a matter of fact, you could have an album of nothing but good songs that I wouldn't recommend because of an element that I thought was extremely detrimental to the album, such as bad production, an overall listless feel or odious ideology.
I don't think many other people will feel this way, but that's my thought on the topic.
Dirty_Jerz
Ethiop
he blacked on this tho
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An album that's completely about his relation to his own fame and how the affect that it's had on him had no real soul to it? The hell? This was probably Kanye at his most naked and raw emotionally other than 808s and Heartbreak.
These dudes mistake soul for soul samples
Like saying Face and Pac - Smile, lacks soul
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Once again this is the only site that denies MBDTF as a classic. Look at it's rating on RYM or Metacritic. Universal acclaim after a whole gang load of reviews. What album has that. Realize when you hate on MBDTF you're in the minority
Almost every opinion on this forum is a super minority.
I still don't know why these dudes have so dedicated haters on some real shyt, this dude Loose talks about Kanye the most on this forum and yet he claims that Kanye has been wack since 05. shyt doesn't add up for these mentally challenged fukks.
bigmac
Superstar
I thought this about Thank Me Later. Song for song, that project sh*ts on most albums since '08. As a body of work though I thought that sh*t was average. Lacked any kind of cohesiveness. Seemed to me like dude just got in the lab with every big producer and rapper out and put the results in any order he could.
Take Care though
DoomzdayzV
Banned
Twisted Fantasy and Watch the Throne were both basura to me. especially the latter.
WTT, MBTDF and CS are all classics
Professor Polo
80s Baby
Hold up, we're questioning this, THIS album, regardless of whether you think it's a "classic" or not (classic is a term that seriously needs to just die anyway), but not the sea of dreck like Random Max B tape #5140 that people reflexively call a classic and is barely argued?
Black pop culture is the most conservative of all American cultures in so many ways.
We're question THIS album in this thread because I see it too often. There's dozens of other albums people call classic that aren't close to being classic. Why can't people say they enjoyed the album without it
Being called a classic
TrueEpic08
Dum Shiny
Well, if it's in this thread, which seems to get made by fans pissed that Kanye hasn't been making the same Chimpunk Soul beats for 8 years straight, then shouldn't we be questioning the intellectual turpitude or lack therof of those fans who cling to College Dropout and Late Registration like their firstborn?
I'm not saying it's a classic, partially because I don't like calling anything a classic as I think the word is reductive, and partially because I wouldn't know anyway. All I'm saying is that, of all the awful mixtapes and albums that do nothing but repeat odious tropes over and over again, we're questioning this one, which at least attempts to evoke something creatively on a personal level, and in my opinion does so extremely well, if nothing else.
Not saying you can't target it, but of the "classic" albums, this seems to be the whipping post of the forum that gets pushed against the most often, while other crap gets easy critical passes.