Relistening to Jay Z's "Super Ugly"....

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You know the obsession is real when you seek out the ex broad of the man you are insanely jealous/envious of to hit it.

Like some twisted way of suckin dude's dikk.

Jay is so corny.
:ufdup: i think Nas asking 50 Cent To get Mega's girl number so he can fukk her is cornier :manny:
 

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You know the obsession is real when you seek out the ex broad of the man you are insanely jealous/envious of to hit it.

Like some twisted way of suckin dude's dikk.

Jay is so corny.
maybe he just wanted to fukk the bytch, dudes fukk other dudes bytches all the time son

Maybe u dont know it but nas tried to do the same thing wit mega a got played on like bytch

Wonder what Beyonce thought.

u really fukked another dudes lady, and left used condoms on their baby seat...like the one blu has? :usure:

well what had happened was...i was young and dumb bey, i was just trying to fire back cuz people said i was crying after ether..

:usure: nikka u never been young u old ass motherfukker..u lucky u rich as fukk and i can look past that shyt...now get my purse im going shopping.

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I bet u thought that shyt was funny when u typed it huh dun
 

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Pac says "das why I fcked yo bytch u fat mufcka"
nikkaz like ":wow: Pac won"

Jay says he fcked dude baby moms and came on his daughter's baby seat
nikkaz like "bububu thats desperate, and obsessive and way too disrespectful"

Cotdamm yall nikkaz clowns :deadrose:
That's not the only reason pac won.
 

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:mjlol:

not only that, for years we had to hear about how much of a pimp Pac was for MAYBE fukking faith, but somehow jay z is a loser for actually fukkin carmen :pachaha:

Basically.

I didn't even like "Super Ugly". He kinda phoned that one in. I thought "People Talkin'" and "Don't You Know" were better responses from Jay.

But cats gotta chill with the double standard.
 

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Only cornballs say Nas beat Jay in this beef. Ether is over-rated as hell.
 

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"I had sex with the mother of your child who you aren't messing with anymore after I tracked her down,took her to my house and showed her my collection of all your music trying to impress her.

This is why super ugly didn't hit. Was already fact jay was obsessed with nas and trying to push nas' buttons with a chick he probably wishes was dead was a amateur move but you lil nikkas respect foolishness like that.

All this is true and a good breakdown.

BUT

Super Ugly is still a great diss record that follows from Takeover. Ultimately, Jay-Z in Takeover characterized Nas as a clown fraud who exercises poor judgment. So Nas choosing to have a baby with an obvious hoe is an example of that bad judgment.

I think part of the reason Super Ugly didn't hit is because the industry as a whole made a decision that Nas was the winner and pushed it. And Nas already characterized Jay-Z as a marginally-talented, attention-seeking super stan. Super Ugly on the surface reaffirmed that Nas was right. The reality is that most people dismissed Super Ugly the moment dude said "I'm worth like a hundred million, I got beef with like a hundred children." The line itself is weak but the flow is awful. It's the worst line in the entire song, and it comes early. A little error like that is all it takes for you to lose. The song quickly recovers when he talks about having more shooters in the bridge than Nas but by then people have lost interest.


Jay-Z and Nas battle is a masterclass in how to approach diss records imo. Both came at the shyt from different angles. Though I think Jay-Z's approach is better in the long run.
 

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Nas beat Kelis cuz she said hi to Jay at an industry party :mjlol: while he was SIGNED TO DEF JAM BY JAY :russ:

That don't sound like a winner to me and I'm a huge Stan of both
If u believe that fam I got a bridge to sell u. They was going to dinners together n all that shyt. Double dates n shyt. If u remember. Also. She also said she stayed with Nas for years after she had bruises on her and she peeped the Chris Brown incident. Even tho it was bullshyt cause she was pregnant posting pictures all over the place at the time and she filed divorce from Nas that same exact year later on in the year. Shorty whole story was inconsistent if anyone took time to break it down. Also. LA Reid signed Nas. Not Jay.
 

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All this is true and a good breakdown.

BUT

Super Ugly is still a great diss record that follows from Takeover. Ultimately, Jay-Z in Takeover characterized Nas as a clown fraud who exercises poor judgment. So Nas choosing to have a baby with an obvious hoe is an example of that bad judgment.

I think part of the reason Super Ugly didn't hit is because the industry as a whole made a decision that Nas was the winner and pushed it. And Nas already characterized Jay-Z as a marginally-talented, attention-seeking super stan. Super Ugly on the surface reaffirmed that Nas was right. The reality is that most people dismissed Super Ugly the moment dude said "I'm worth like a hundred million, I got beef with like a hundred children." The line itself is weak but the flow is awful. It's the worst line in the entire song, and it comes early. A little error like that is all it takes for you to lose. The song quickly recovers when he talks about having more shooters in the bridge than Nas but by then people have lost interest.


Jay-Z and Nas battle is a masterclass in how to approach diss records imo. Both came at the shyt from different angles. Though I think Jay-Z's approach is better in the long run.
Jay tried to win over the people with half truths n shyt like that. Nas came at Jay. Directly. Which is why it affected him so much. Jay was talking to fans. Nas was talking to Jay.
 
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