Dude's lust for Elon has him throwing it all away. 
How do the board peeps allow this man to march them into the volcano??
How do the board peeps allow this man to march them into the volcano??
Reddit Joins Twitter In Squeezing Devs With Unreasonable Fees
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It’s amazing how fukking stupid these people are. We should just shove the rich into wood chippers they being nothing to this world
Reddit CEO lashes out on protests, moderators and third-party apps | TechCrunch
In interviews with multiple publications, Reddit CEO Steve Huffman defended business decisions made by the company.
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I think I initially framed his actions as an attempt to reassure concerned investors during the lead up to an IPO initially.... Not a great look for users but understandable in a realist sort of way... But hearing that he saw the shytshow that is Twitter and thought that Elon Musk was a good guy to get advice from feels like the nail in the coffin imo.
It's not just that Elon is persona non grata, but what sane 'for the people' CEO would pursue advice from Elon in 2023? Elon is a multi-billionaire running a former progressive-leaning platform into the ground. Why would you get advice from someone who's company is currently down +70% of their initial valuation??? IMO, it's a sign that he doesn't know wtf he's doing and is disconnected from reality, can't read the room and is the type to double down and cut his nose to spite his face.
He's already lost the battle, now it's just about how much pain he has to endure until he realizes it.
This is a clinic on malicious compliance. If mods change the rules on what's accepted in the top subreddits, then they can ban content that doesn't adhere to the protest-focused themes.
And with this example specifically, they are using the pics of the person most likely to amplify the message beyond the average 3rd party app user. Chess not checkers shyt
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RIF developer counters Reddit CEO’s claims that he didn’t want to work with Reddit
“I am willing to work with Reddit.”
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RIF developer counters Reddit CEO’s claims that he didn’t want to work with Reddit
Another developer has come forward to push back on Reddit CEO Steve Huffman’s claims.
By Jay Peters, a news editor who writes about technology, video games, and virtual worlds. He’s submitted several accepted emoji proposals to the Unicode Consortium.Jun 16, 2023, 3:39 PM EDT
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A screenshot of rif is fun for Reddit. Image: TalkLittle
On Thursday, Reddit CEO Steve Huffman told me that the developer of rif is fun for Reddit (RIF), a popular third-party Reddit app for Android, did not want to work with Reddit on the company’s planned API pricing changes. However, the developer, Andrew Shu, tells me that’s not the case — and shared emails with The Verge that appear to back him up.
During the interview, I asked Huffman if Reddit could give developers more time to implement the API changes, which Shu has already said are forcing him to shut down RIF at the end of the month. Here’s exactly what Huffman said in response (emphasis mine):
However, based on emails we’ve seen, it was clear that the two sides did actually talk.
The conversation did not start well, as Reddit apparently had some trouble getting in touch with Shu. On April 25th, Reddit said that it had “made repeated attempts to contact you using all methods of contact” in an email with the subject line “URGENT: Immediate Compliance with Reddit API Terms Required — 48 Hour Response Deadline.” Shu responded, and he and Reddit sent a few emails back and forth about scheduling a call.
On May 1st, Reddit followed up from the call to recap the discussion, which included notes that ads in apps wouldn’t be allowed beginning June 19th — effectively killing RIF’s business model and giving Shu little time to pivot to a new one.
A few hours later, Shu replied to push back on the proposed changes.
Shu offers that the two sides should start over and says the following: “I am willing to work with Reddit. I can envision a ‘win-win-win’ solution being possible: a win for Reddit, for developers including myself, and most importantly, our users.”
On May 30th, Reddit reached out again to offer a follow-up call with “some updates.” A day later — the same day Apollo developer Christian Selig went public with his expected $20 million per year costs for the app — Shu replied, “given the info is public, I don’t see a phone call being productive. Please let me know when there is any new information to share that hasn’t been made public.” Reddit said it is “standing by to discuss if you change your mind.” Reddit followed up again on June 7th.
The company declined to comment.
Thursday’s interview is not the only time Huffman has allegedly taken an aggressive stance toward third-party developers. In his announcement that he would be shutting down Apollo, Selig claimed that Huffman told Reddit mods that Selig “threatened” the company. Selig released the audio and a transcript from his conversation with a Reddit employee that showed that while the employee originally interpreted Selig’s comments as a threat, they cleared up the matter and agreed that threat was a misinterpretation.
Regardless, Huffman hasn’t been pleased with Selig. “[Selig’s] ‘joke’ is the least of our issues,” Huffman wrote in his AMA on June 9th. “His behavior and communications with us has been all over the place — saying one thing to us while saying something completely different externally; recording and leaking a private phone call — to the point where I don’t know how we could do business with him.” In a reply, Selig asked Huffman to “please feel free to give examples where I said something differently in public versus what I said to you,” which Huffman did not respond to.
Both Shu and Selig believe that paying for API use, which has previously been free, is a fair request. “Paying for the API is a reasonable ask, as long as the pricing is reasonable,” Shu wrote in his May 1st email. “I agree that long-term Reddit footing the bill for third-party apps is not tenable, and with a paid arrangement there’s a great possibility for developing a more concrete relationship with Reddit, with better API support for users,” Selig wrote in his announcement that he’ll be shutting down the app. But they take issue with the pricing — Shu said on Reddit that RIF’s costs would be in “the same ballpark” as Selig’s expected $20 million per year — and the company’s rollout of the changes.
Shu also tells me that RIF was paying a “sizable revenue share” to Reddit beginning in 2012, which was during Yishan Wong’s tenure as CEO. Shu says he says initiated the talks with Reddit to create the agreement, which allowed for the licensed use of Reddit’s trademarks. (At the time, the app was called “reddit is fun.”) Shu says Reddit terminated the agreement in 2016 — which was the year after Huffman took over as CEO.
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It wasn’t even progressive leaning which is the hilarious part. The right just had an issue with Twitter not wanting to associated with racists and Nazis for obvious fukking reasons. All that shyt about “free speech” was about hate speech
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Here’s the note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen
Reddit is trying to turn mods against mods.
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Here’s the note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen
By Jay Peters and Mia Sato
Jun 16, 2023, 12:02 PM EDT|
Some moderators of Reddit communities participating in the protest against API changes today got messages from the company: work to reopen your subreddits or else.
On Thursday, Reddit CEO Steve Huffman told The Verge that “we don’t have problems with protests.” According to NBC News, Huffman “plans to pursue changes” that would let regular users vote moderators out more easily. Though the protest, which included more than 8,000 subreddits at peak, was initially planned to last for only two days, many subreddits vowed to stay dark indefinitely, including popular communities like r/music, r/videos, and r/nba, which remained dark even during the NBA championship game. More than 4,000 subreddits remain closed.
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Mods were already worried. Reddit said in a fact sheet on Thursday that it is “not shutting down discussions or unilaterally reopening communities,” but the admin account u/ModCodeofConduct said the company can remove mods that violate Reddit’s Mod Code of Conduct and replace them.
“If a moderator team unanimously decides to stop moderating, we will invite new, active moderators to keep these spaces open and accessible to users,” u/ModCodeofConduct wrote. And on Thursday evening, spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt confirmed that moderators of subreddits going dark to protest the upcoming API price changes can be in violation of the code of conduct.
In a pinned message on r/funny, the biggest subreddit to go private before recently reopening, a moderator implored Reddit “to listen to its moderators, its contributors, and its everyday users” and asked it to “not tacitly enable bad actors by working against your volunteers.” r/Apple also recently reopened after being closed out of fears that it would be forcibly reopened. “We want the best for this community and have no choice but to open it back up — or have it opened for us,” a moderator wrote. Another r/Apple mod is resigning in protest of Reddit’s actions.
“We have not threatened anyone,” Reddit spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt said in a statement to The Verge. “That’s not how we operate. Pressuring people is not our goal. We’re communicating expectations and how things work. Redditors want to reddit and mods want to mod. We want mods who want to mod to be able to do so.”
The messages seen by The Verge were sent to moderators of some major subreddits, including r/funny and r/aww, which are two of the most subscribed subreddits on the platform. (As far as we are aware, r/funny is the second-most subscribed, while r/aww is the fifth.) r/funny had been closed in protest but reopened this morning; r/aww is viewable but is in a restricted mode.
On Tuesday, an internal memo sent by Huffman seemed to minimize the protest and its potential impact on the company. “There’s a lot of noise with this one. Among the noisiest we’ve seen,” the note read. “Please know that our teams are on it, and like all blowups on Reddit, this one will pass as well.”
Here is one of the messages seen by The Verge that was sent to moderators:
Update June 16th, 2:05PM ET: Added statement from Reddit.
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Nope
The dumb people are the masses who jumped to social media instead of having individual sites and message boards
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Formerly Black Trash
Philosopher, Connoisseur, Future Legend
Even if this doesn't go through
Corps will keep pushing and get their way
