Recent study finds that 60% of men under 30 are single due to social media and the internet

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bro just lie.

Women lie all the damn time.

They lie about the time they sold coochie on Backpage for a couple weekends to get money for car repairs.

They lie about the abortion(s) they've had. They lie about being an abusive mother. They lie about being broke, They lie about being sober. Just fukking lie and by the time she finds out you have no experience you probably already smashed. That will at least get the ball rolling with getting your confidence up.

You know why women lie? To get things they wouldn't get if they were more honest. If you want a relationship and can't get one being honest, just lie. And use numbers game to your advantage, you need to start over and just assume women want you and keep going like the fukking Terminator until you approach 100 women. Everything that happened before this moment doesn't matter anymore. Even if you pulled a bunch of women in the past, no one cares today, what are u doing TODAY?
This, gotta act the part
 

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bro just lie.

Women lie all the damn time.

They lie about the time they sold coochie on Backpage for a couple weekends to get money for car repairs.

They lie about the abortion(s) they've had. They lie about being an abusive mother. They lie about being broke, They lie about being sober. Just fukking lie and by the time she finds out you have no experience you probably already smashed. That will at least get the ball rolling with getting your confidence up.

You know why women lie? To get things they wouldn't get if they were more honest. If you want a relationship and can't get one being honest, just lie. And use numbers game to your advantage, you need to start over and just assume women want you and keep going like the fukking Terminator until you approach 100 women. Everything that happened before this moment doesn't matter anymore. Even if you pulled a bunch of women in the past, no one cares today, what are u doing TODAY?
Also Lowkey he can do some moves to distance his ego from rejection so he doesn’t have to take it personally. Use photos of people who looks like him but aren’t exactly him, use a burner number, don’t give his real name. It’s not about catfishing it’s about creating boundaries.

It's a psychological boundary that if things don’t go the way he can take from it what he needs to learn and burn that profile to ground. That way he doesn’t have to asssociate his ego with the learning process.

Honestly a little anonymity can help him be more bold.
 

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I can move up to college when I was at orientation and our instructor told us to say hi to the person to the left and right of you.

I had a corner seat and the woman to the right ofe refused to turn and say hi to me.

You wouldn't know what that makes you feel like as a human being.
Bro you got to learn how to tell a bytch “fukk you bytch”. Also college girls are possibly the most immature and vain women on the planet.

I still think you should seek therapy. These incidents that haunt your mind and keeping you from experiencing life. Therapy will not just help with your self image but also dealing with the resentment you justifiably feel from those interactions.
 

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I can move up to college when I was at orientation and our instructor told us to say hi to the person to the left and right of you.

I had a corner seat and the woman to the right ofe refused to turn and say hi to me.

You wouldn't know what that makes you feel like as a human being.

Have you considered PAWGing? Like im being dead serious here, no Umar. :pachaha:



Its basically easy mode, breh.
 

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You've tried more than once to say I'm entitled to women and I've already said more than once that isn't true.

No man is entitled to women.

You got the wrong person.

Experience doesn't matter or lie to women about my experience?

Which is it?

The fact that y'all keep mentioning lies tells me I know I'm right and y'all just don't want to admit it.
If you didn't feel entitled to women then you wouldn't say it's on them why you couldn't be with one. All women are unique individuals. They are not a collective hive mind. You are the common factor not them. If you're constantly rejected by a bunch of different individuals with different taste and desires that's a you problem. Pushing the blame on them as if they're all the same is your sense of entitlement.

Women in general would likely prefer an experienced man but they don't know your level of experience so that doesn't really matter. You don't walk up to one and say you're the first woman I ever dated. You omit that and if asked I'm assuming you've consumed media before and seen relationships in them so it's not a totally foreign concept to you.

You act like you've never applied for and interviewed for a job before. People embellish things, make shyt up, and the whole 9. This process is a lot like that. You still can't even openly say you're afraid of rejection and using all these excuses as a defense mechanism to shield yourself from it.
 

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I can move up to college when I was at orientation and our instructor told us to say hi to the person to the left and right of you.

I had a corner seat and the woman to the right ofe refused to turn and say hi to me.

You wouldn't know what that makes you feel like as a human being.
Are you really trying to tell me the building blocks of your own self-esteem is the perception you get from interrupting the behavior of random people whom you don't know, respect, and can't speak to their character? That woman could have been a complete POS. Likely was if she couldn't speak back to someone who said hello and that's what you form your sense of value of your self based off of.

If I spoke to a woman and she ignored me I'd speak up for myself and say excuse me that was rude did your parents not raise you better than that? I bet you tried to say hi and she said nothing and instead of demanding her attention and insisting she acknowledge you instead you just folded up and gave up.
 

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Are you really trying to tell me the building blocks of your own self-esteem is the perception you get from interrupting the behavior of random people whom you don't know, respect, and can't speak to their character? That woman could have been a complete POS. Likely was if she couldn't speak back to someone who said hello and that's what you form your sense of value of your self based off of.

If I spoke to a woman and she ignored me I'd speak up for myself and say excuse me that was rude did your parents not raise you better than that? I bet you tried to say hi and she said nothing and instead of demanding her attention and insisting she acknowledge you instead you just folded up and gave up.
Idk breh its one thing confident in yourself but you can't say something is gold if no one's willing to buy it. Self esteem is cool but confidence without nothing to back it up is delusion
 

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Women in general would likely prefer an experienced man but they don't know your level of experience so that doesn't really matter. You don't walk up to one and say you're the first woman I ever dated.
You think a woman can't tell the difference between a man who's been with woman and a man who's literally never been attractive to women before?
Are you really trying to tell me the building blocks of your own self-esteem is the perception you get from interrupting the behavior of random people whom you don't know, respect, and can't speak to their character?
I'm saying we were instructed to say hi.

It was not "interrupting the behavior of random people"
Hilarious that you'd right to spin that narrative given what I literally said happened.

For whatever reason women find me so disgusting she didn't even want to say hi to me.

If a man already has his self esteem destroyed by women, moves to a completely different city for college and the first interaction with a woman he has, the woman refused to say hi to him.

That's only going to fukk up his self esteem even more.
 
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bro just lie.

Women lie all the damn time.

They lie about the time they sold coochie on Backpage for a couple weekends to get money for car repairs.

They lie about the abortion(s) they've had. They lie about being an abusive mother. They lie about being broke, They lie about being sober. Just fukking lie and by the time she finds out you have no experience you probably already smashed. That will at least get the ball rolling with getting your confidence up.

You know why women lie? To get things they wouldn't get if they were more honest. If you want a relationship and can't get one being honest, just lie. And use numbers game to your advantage, you need to start over and just assume women want you and keep going like the fukking Terminator until you approach 100 women. Everything that happened before this moment doesn't matter anymore. Even if you pulled a bunch of women in the past, no one cares today, what are u doing TODAY?
I like this advice because you haven't been in this thread saying experience doesn't matter, then saying lie about.

This was my overall point.

Women do not want a man with no relationship experience.

So much so, that if you're going to go out and date, find a way to lie about it if ex girlfriends or anything like that comes up.
 
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You think a woman can't tell the difference between a man who's been with woman and a man who's literally never been attractive to women before?
I think if you developed your ability to interact with people to the extent you can behave normally around them that's unlikely to come into play until you're deep enough in the interaction to overcome it. I think if you're so afraid of women and rejection that you radiate that fear then yeah you're gonna crash and burn fast.
I'm saying we were instructed to say hi.

It was not "interrupting the behavior of random people"
Hilarious that you'd right to spin that narrative given what I literally said happened.

For whatever reason women find me so disgusting she didn't even want to say hi to me.

If a man already has his self esteem destroyed by women, moves to a completely different city for college and the first interaction with a woman he has, the woman refused to say hi to him.

That's only going to fukk up his self esteem even more.
The bottom line is this. If you have a limiting belief about yourself then that belief is true. It's not necessarily true because it's right but because you believe it to be so. Your mind will work to rationalize your beliefs. Even now you're arguing with objective views on the subject by people with more experience than you in this thread.

There are at least 2 billion women in the world. In the United States let's say there are 50 million viable women. How many women would you say you've had any level of meaningful interaction with in your life? I'm guessing likely under 500 because you clearly aren't putting yourself out there like that. That 1 woman represents herself not all of them.

This whole women don't want me thing is a defense mechanism you've developed so you don't have to go out in the world and face rejection to find one that would be interested in you. It's one thing for you to say I don't want a woman in my life. It's another to come across as if you do but they won't have you. You haven't even interacted with 0.1% of viable partners so who are you to say that? Why can't you just be honest with yourself and say I've been rejected in the past and I'm deeply afraid of rejection and I'd rather not face it? That's your starting line to ever getting past all this. Why do you have to push that fear on them and act as if they're all the same? That's some incel shit.
 

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I like this advice because you haven't been on this thread saying experience doesn't matter, then saying lie about.

This was my overall point.

Women do not want a man with no relationship experience.

So much so, that if you're going to go out and date, find a way to lie about it if ex girlfriends or anything like that comes up.
No your overall point is to place roadblocks of why you can't do something and feel justified about it. If you can act normal around them that's not going to come into play because they don't know your past. There isn't a dating counter floating over your head with how many women you've been with.

Many women don't want a short man or a fat man but these people who wear their limitation on their physical bodies continue to procreate. It's because they don't let their perceived limits stop them while you do.
 

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This whole women don't want me thing is a defense mechanism you've developed so you don't have to go out in the world and face rejection to find one that would be interested in you. It's one thing for you to say I don't want a woman in my life. It's another to come across as if you do but they won't have you. You haven't even interacted with 0.1% of viable partners so who are you to say that? Why can't you just be honest with yourself and say I've been rejected in the past and I'm deeply afraid of rejection and I'd rather not face it? That's your starting line to ever getting past all this. Why do you have to push that fear on them and act as if they're all the same? That's some incel shit.
I'm from a very small town with very few black people.

Dude in here saying to pawg, but I think if you can't get women that's in general. I don't think I failed with black women and suddenly non black women will find me attractive.

I don't think women are all the same.
I do think that like I said before, women do not want to deal with a man with no experience, and in believe women can sense when you do not have experience.

@Cloutius Maximus is the only one who said lie about it because he understands it's important, which I can respect unlike y'all acting like:

1. Experience doesn't matter.

and

2. A person's self esteem isn't shaped by the experiences they have with people.
 

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No your overall point is to place roadblocks of why you can't do something and feel justified about it. If you can act normal around them that's not going to come into play because they don't know your past. There isn't a dating counter floating over your head with how many women you've been with.

Many women don't want a short man or a fat man but these people who wear their limitation on their physical bodies continue to procreate. It's because they don't let their perceived limits stop them while you do.
Wrong.

A man with experience will know when to hold hands, when to go for a kiss, when to close the deal,.when it isn't going anywhere.

Meanwhile a woman can tell when a 35 year old man doesn't have experience with those things.
 

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I feel like this gets overlooked often. If you can't pull on dating apps and can't approach in every day settings, an introverted person that doesn't frequent active social spaces where you'd expect women to be open to being approached (clubs/ bars etc.) gets the short end of the stick.
But that's part of the process. If you're introverted you have to step outside of your comfort zone especially if you're striking out in the first two areas. You can't just fold your tent up and sit in the house and blame others. You know where the women are! Go get one if you truly want one. If you don't want one and are content being alone. That's cool too, just stop complaining about it and the dating market. You're spreading misery and poisoning the water for the folks that are coming up and trying to find their way in it. It's no different than the older woman who was phased out and messing up the younger women too
 
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