Recent study finds that 60% of men under 30 are single due to social media and the internet

[Scaaar]

Why should you ignore me when I am still dating women in their mid 20’s to mid 30’s? When I was in my early to mid 20’s dating was harder, but then I worked on it and myself and after a while women became easier.

Also I hate to say this but as black men, if you can hold down a decent paying job, know how to look presentable, and can keep a conversation going. Women will start to pursue you, because them being around you validates their vanity.

Also getting married is on men, IE you have to make a decision to marry that woman and propose to her. That number going down is as much societal as everything else as men basically can move in with a woman and play house without marrying her. There isn’t really a benefit outside of taxes, mutual incomes, and having kids.

Now when it comes to having kids, that is on women, I had a job where they made having kids very affordable through health insurance and gave time off and the women on the job was having kids all the time. Some issue are economic, and some issues go beyond dating. Like I said earlier the abortion laws have messed this up because most places don’t support working mothers, so women are withdrawing from the dating pool due to fears of having a child they would have to raise alone.

The vitriol against women, needs to be aimed at conservative politicians and billionaires who keep trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, because they refuse to make thing easier for men For self serving purposes. Ya’ll complain about dating when two of the best dating apps of the last 15 years (Tinder and Hinge) got bought by the company that runs OK Cupid and transformed from being focused on dating and instead have been made into money pits designed around engagement. Also conservative keep promoting men to not go to college because of some machismo fantasy, and that is where all the women are.

Look at your graph. 27% of men say they meet women off the apps, but the apps are fukked up. However, alternatively, 25% of men say they meet women from work and school. Now women are going to college and getting, white collared job. However, these podcasters are telling men, don’t do that, go into the trades…. Where all you will do is work with other men.

The best chance as a man to meet women is to go to college and get a white collared job. That with the apps gives you a 52% chance to meet your wife. 55% if you go to church. Another option is don’t go to college, maybe go into a field with a lot of women like health care. That would give you a 37% chance to meet women. 40% if you go to church. Everything is a numbers game until it happens to you, and you got to give yourself a chance it can happen to you. If the apps don’t work from you, then you got to eat off of the other subcategories in that graph.

Basically, if ya’ll want to meet women choose a career path that fits that. Just like I was saying my former job was a career path that promoted women having babies. Economics runs shyt. Cash rules everything around me. Young men need to change their approaches. You are still young enough to adapt to the reality around you, you can’t change it, you can only change you.

That's literally all it is. If you can do that you're ahead of a majority of the field. Especially as you get older and your foundation becomes more established. I just turned 35 and it's crazy talking to some some chicks in my age range and hearing that they were dealing with dudes that still lived with their parents, have a roommate , didn't have a car, or constantly in between jobs lol

But the best advice you gave them is to go to college. It's literally the best place and the greatest chance to meet multiple women all on the same economic and social playing field. There is a very anti college and anti intellectual badge that those manosphere guys use to push young brehs away from higher education that are setting people up to fall behind not only in the working market but the dating market. If more women are getting more degrees and going to school. Common sense would say that's where all of them are. Being a recluse and working a male dominated job is not going to help increase your chances of finding a woman.

 

[Wargames]

That's literally all it is. If you can do that you're ahead of a majority of the field. Especially as you get older and your foundation becomes more established. I just turned 35 and it's crazy talking to some some chicks in my age range and hearing that they were dealing with dudes that still lived with their parents, have a roommate , didn't have a car, or constantly in between jobs lol

But the best advice you gave them is to go to college. It's literally the best place and the greatest chance to meet multiple women all on the same economic and social playing field. There is a very anti college and anti intellectual badge that those manosphere guys use to push young brehs away from higher education that are setting people up to fall behind not only in the working market but the dating market. If more women are getting more degrees and going to school. Common sense would say that's where all of them are. Being a recluse and working a male dominated job is not going to help increase your chances of finding a woman.

Bro, I am trying to tell these young guys the truth. I don’t get nothing from this. I ain’t getting views that need to be monetized. It sucks, but you got to either adapt to the market or come to terms with loneliness.

The Dating Apps been ruined by capitalism, but eventually capitalism ruins everything. You got to see where you are from an economic level and a personal level and make changes. In your 20’s you are far from being a “finished” product, time is on their side to grow into the man they want to be. shyt I am in my early 40’s and I am still trying to grow.

Women are everywhere, but more women are in specific places, just like plants seek sunlight, make the changes to get more of the energy you seek. Also they got to complain less and do more. Getting mad at older dudes just comes off as being haters. When arguably we should be a source of knowledge cause there ain’t nothing new under the Sun. Being attractive to women isn’t rocket science.

 

[Dwayne_Taylor]

Reason #3

 

[Scaaar]

Bro, I am trying to tell these young guys the truth. I don’t get nothing from this. I ain’t getting views that need to be monetized. It sucks, but you got to either adapt to the market or come to terms with loneliness.

The Dating Apps been ruined by capitalism, but eventually capitalism ruins everything. You got to see where you are from an economic level and a personal level and make changes. In your 20’s you are far from being a “finished” product, time is on their side to grow into the man they want to be. shyt I am in my early 40’s and I am still trying to grow.

Women are everywhere, but more women are in specific places, just like plants seek sunlight, make the changes to get more of the energy you seek. Also they got to complain less and do more. Getting mad at older dudes just comes off as being haters. When arguably we should be a source of knowledge cause there ain’t nothing new under the Sun. Being attractive to women isn’t rocket science.

Yeah it's sad unfortunately. They have such a pessimistic and defeatist outlook on life not understanding that a mindset like that seeps into every aspect. You gotta want better for yourself personally first and a lot of other things start to fall into place. Telling these brehs to work on themselves, go to school, workout, self maximize and they still have excuses on why they can't do this or that or how it could go wrong. They read stories and watch movies and want the rewards of the conquering hero but don't want to go on the journey or even attempt it...smh

 

[Scaaar]

Reason #3

So his fix action is to set up a phone and make a video whining about it for male validation....

 

[Wild self]

Yeah it's sad unfortunately. They have such a pessimistic and defeatist outlook on life not understanding that a mindset like that seeps into every aspect. You gotta want better for yourself personally first and a lot of other things start to fall into place. Telling these brehs to work on themselves, go to school, workout, self maximize and they still have excuses on why they can't do this or that or how it could go wrong. They read stories and watch movies and want the rewards of the conquering hero but don't want to go on the journey or even attempt it...smh

Not every situation is the same

Some have to move to another region or have to go overseas while evolving themselves, cause their immediate environment has lots of negative and toxic people in it. As in, towns filled with non ambitious people lingering around all day, yesr in and year out.

Some people are indeed crabs with others and kick them while they are down. Its either let these men complain and "sound feminine" for getting therapy, or they bottle it in and "take it as a man" and risk a whole school/workplace shooting.

 

[Wargames]

Reason #3

Here is my counter to that whole video.

him describing himself and his nose…. Don’t do that. Women care about their feature. Breh looks like he got a good car. His whole game should be “get women in that passenger seat”.

When that bytch said Eww to him in the club. He should have said “fukk you bytch” and then went back to partying with his friends. Don’t let some random bytch snatch your soul. She is a stranger who happens to have a p*ssy. Check her

All that social media shyt …. Bird babble. Women said bird babble and you got to ignore it. Peep their actions. bytches will say they hate men, run into a man they like, and delete all these posts. Also Dudes need to stop comparing life to social medial. All social media will show you is what you don’t have,

When talking about the economy he is right, but happy hour is a thing that more people should lean on. Also stop trying to take them down that night, buy a woman a drink to get their number/social and then hit them up there where it’s free. Like don’t get me wrong buying a woman a drink is a great way to get her attention, but if you can’t afford that, don’t do that, or limit yourself to one drink to start the conversation. He’s doing the math for a one night stand. One night stands/first day lays are a lot harder to pull than any other maneuver. They get expensive because you got to sweep her off her feet. Why attempt that if you’re not balling? shyt why attempt that with a stranger if you’re not on a date to begin with.

Basically none of this is new. The resentment isn’t new either. However, this defeatist attitude is new.

 

[Wargames]

Yeah it's sad unfortunately. They have such a pessimistic and defeatist outlook on life not understanding that a mindset like that seeps into every aspect. You gotta want better for yourself personally first and a lot of other things start to fall into place. Telling these brehs to work on themselves, go to school, workout, self maximize and they still have excuses on why they can't do this or that or how it could go wrong. They read stories and watch movies and want the rewards of the conquering hero but don't want to go on the journey or even attempt it...smh

I blame Andrew Tate most of all. That motherfukker is a pimp who fukks Eastern European women (who are more sexually liberated than American women) and he is giving advice to guys who haven’t even had a 2 year relationship with the same woman. That shyt doesn’t make sense. He’s dating hoes and the regular guy wants to date their co-worker or the girl who works at the store counter. Regular guys need to listen to other regular guys to figure it out.

 

[Scaaar]

Not every situation is the same

Some have to move to another region or have to go overseas while evolving themselves, cause their immediate environment has lots of negative and toxic people in it. As in, towns filled with non ambitious people lingering around all day, yesr in and year out.

Some people are indeed crabs with others and kick them while they are down. Its either let these men complain and "sound feminine" for getting therapy, or they bottle it in and "take it as a man" and risk a whole school/workplace shooting.

The city I'm from is very much like that where people don't want to move and they consider going to Atlanta, Dallas, Houston as traveling. My POV shifted when I went to the Air Force and got to meet folks from different walks of life with different perspectives. But the biggest thing is that you gotta want more/better for yourself personally regardless of outside opinion. Once you get over that hurdle things start to simplify. People underestimate how much outside validation plays a big part in their decision making and life path. As a human you should always be growing and adapting. If you notice that everyone around you is still in the same space mentally, physically, emotionally that means you're in a stagnant pond and it's time to filter some things out.

 

[The ADD]

Yeah it's sad unfortunately. They have such a pessimistic and defeatist outlook on life not understanding that a mindset like that seeps into every aspect. You gotta want better for yourself personally first and a lot of other things start to fall into place. Telling these brehs to work on themselves, go to school, workout, self maximize and they still have excuses on why they can't do this or that or how it could go wrong. They read stories and watch movies and want the rewards of the conquering hero but don't want to go on the journey or even attempt it...smh

In fairness to them it’s a lot of anecdotal advice as opposed to specifics of what you (or me, etc) went through.

It’s easier for people to look deeper into real world examples then and stock list.

 

[Scaaar]

Here is my counter to that whole video.

him describing himself and his nose…. Don’t do that. Women care about their feature. Breh looks like he got a good car. His whole game should be “get women in that passenger seat”.

When that bytch said Eww to him in the club. He should have said “fukk you bytch” and then went back to partying with his friends. Don’t let some random bytch snatch your soul. She is a stranger who happens to have a p*ssy. Check her

All that social media shyt …. Bird babble. Women said bird babble and you got to ignore it. Peep their actions. bytches will say they hate men, run into a man they like, and delete all these posts. Also Dudes need to stop comparing life to social medial. All social media will show you is what you don’t have,

When talking about the economy he is right, but happy hour is a thing that more people should lean on. Also stop trying to take them down that night, buy a woman a drink to get their number/social and then hit them up there where it’s free. Like don’t get me wrong buying a woman a drink is a great way to get her attention, but if you can’t afford that, don’t do that, or limit yourself to one drink to start the conversation. He’s doing the math for a one night stand. One night stands/first day lays are a lot harder to pull than any other maneuver. They get expensive because you got to sweep her off her feet. Why attempt that if you’re not balling? shyt why attempt that with a stranger if you’re not on a date to begin with.

Basically none of this is new. The resentment isn’t new either. However, this defeatist attitude is new.

That's my biggest gripe. Why are these brehs trying to listen to these women when reality shows they contradict themselves constantly. I'm in a financially great place and I'm not taking no chick on a extravagant first date especially if I don't know her or gotten to understand who she is. I've had women try to pull that move on me and I've gotten called broke a few times but guess what she still didn't get that meal outta me. It's certain hoops and shyt tests that brehs should peep immediately and just stop dealing with the chic completely. But like you said they're too pressed to have sex as quickly as they can which is why the women are running circles around them out here. They know y'all are horned up so they're using that leverage to get as much as they can and sometimes they still ain't letting you smash lol

 

[folasade]

Reason #3

Interesting. Rejection is a part of life. People on social media spout bullshyt 90% of the time. The price of drinks is valid, but buying drinks for the possibility of a one night stand is always risky. Ghosting the day after giving out her number could be a variety of reasons. It could be ego as some women are just looking to have a good time when they go out and nothing, it could be because she didn't like the way the interaction went in person, it could be that he sent the driest text known to man, or she simply was drunk and does not remember who she even gave her number out to. It's a numbers games. Every woman that gives out her number to man isn't necessarily going to get a text back, a date or even relationship. That's life.

 

[Scaaar]

Interesting. Rejection is a part of life. People on social media spout bullshyt 90% of the time. The price of drinks is valid, but buying drinks for the possibility of a one night stand is always risky. Ghosting the day after giving out her number could be a variety of reasons. It could be ego as some women are just looking to have a good time when they go out and nothing, it could be because she didn't like the way the interaction went in person, it could be that he sent the driest text known to man, or she simply was drunk and does not remember who she even gave her number out to. It's a numbers games. Every woman that gives out her number to man isn't necessarily going to get a text back, a date or even relationship. That's life.

Yeah they gotta stop internalizing it. Not everyone is not going to like you or want to be with you and that's ok. It's a multitude of reasons why she didn't hit you back just press forward. That's why you gotta talk and interact with multiple women. It's a numbers game. Brehs gotta start moving like that as well too. There's nothing wrong with talking to chics that you encounter and you don't see them again. They don't owe you anything and you don't owe them either. You might be out of paying for a drink or two but if you got some decent convo that's a fine price to pay.

 

[qwasi]

He met a legit gorgeous woman at the job and she did play him initially. She was talking to him and other dudes. shyt she had a man. You know what he did he buckled down, got a legit job as a sales man at a luxury store, gave up the phone scams, and young Breh got that chick. That is his girlfriend Keep in mind she is gorgeous.

This isn't motivational for young men its a horror plot. Dude was still getting attention from a committed woman, when he was down. His consolation for levelling up and pursuing her was switching places with her old man. With no guarantee the next him isn't coming along. This is what the average dude believes his fate is.

Why should you ignore me when I am still dating women in their mid 20’s to mid 30’s? When I was in my early to mid 20’s dating was harder, but then I worked on it and myself and after a while women became easier.

Also I hate to say this but as black men, if you can hold down a decent paying job, know how to look presentable, and can keep a conversation going. Women will start to pursue you, because them being around you validates their vanity.

Also getting married is on men, IE you have to make a decision to marry that woman and propose to her. That number going down is as much societal as everything else as men basically can move in with a woman and play house without marrying her. There isn’t really a benefit outside of taxes, mutual incomes, and having kids.

Now when it comes to having kids, that is on women, I had a job where they made having kids very affordable through health insurance and gave time off and the women on the job was having kids all the time. Some issue are economic, and some issues go beyond dating. Like I said earlier the abortion laws have messed this up because most places don’t support working mothers, so women are withdrawing from the dating pool due to fears of having a child they would have to raise alone.

The vitriol against women, needs to be aimed at conservative politicians and billionaires who keep trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, because they refuse to make thing easier for men For self serving purposes. Ya’ll complain about dating when two of the best dating apps of the last 15 years (Tinder and Hinge) got bought by the company that runs OK Cupid and transformed from being focused on dating and instead have been made into money pits designed around engagement. Also conservative keep promoting men to not go to college because of some machismo fantasy, and that is where all the women are.

Look at your graph. 27% of men say they meet women off the apps, but the apps are fukked up. However, alternatively, 25% of men say they meet women from work and school. Now women are going to college and getting, white collared job. However, these podcasters are telling men, don’t do that, go into the trades…. Where all you will do is work with other men.

The best chance as a man to meet women is to go to college and get a white collared job. That with the apps gives you a 52% chance to meet your wife. 55% if you go to church. Another option is don’t go to college, maybe go into a field with a lot of women like health care. That would give you a 37% chance to meet women. 40% if you go to church. Everything is a numbers game until it happens to you, and you got to give yourself a chance it can happen to you. If the apps don’t work from you, then you got to eat off of the other subcategories in that graph.

Basically, if ya’ll want to meet women choose a career path that fits that. Just like I was saying my former job was a career path that promoted women having babies. Economics runs shyt. Cash rules everything around me. Young men need to change their approaches. You are still young enough to adapt to the reality around you, you can’t change it, you can only change you.

It should be as it seems virtually impossible for older men to understand the shift in dynamics. Intrinsically men know were not women - our messaging isn't be you & they'll love you for you. Rather you need to undergo adversity learn skill, develop, grow. However, the internet's hypervisibility has shown men that "not everyone struggles when younger" "needs to work on themselves to score" "working on yourself doesn't guarantee success," "easier is relative". Its such a simple concept but it'll be disputed because [ insert personal anecdote ]. Ignoring data that show dating's turned into a gamified marketplace where average user is competing with endless options. In the most common way couples meet today there is 1:9 to men ratio and in society at large its 1:3. Hence them making up that 60%.

Yes, women are gatekeepers of sex/relationships and men marriage/commitment. Yet, we know less men are having sex or in relationships. Given the accelerated cost of living / housing relative wages, dual income households should have garnered greater appeal. Historically, men out earn & settle for lower income women. This doesn't happen vice versa & with women's economical stability improving its not stopping. Hesitance amongst committed men to marry arises from cost: blowback of failed matrimony. This is happing across most developed nations. Fatherhood which was a key pillar of masculinity isn't even as lauded as motherhood, lol.

I don't complain about women. If anything I've left spaces & blocked posters who keep crying about that. However, I am fair and certain brehs will never get it. I lean left & observe all this with fascination as its capitalist hell hole. At 30, I've seen all these movements & shift come about. From when I started uni - seeing people move from pua to redpill which fracture into mgtow & "race realism" to "blackpill". I've said dating endemic of a wider issue. Be it education, finances boys are struggling long before they even become "men". Going to work and school and church doesn't give you a 25% chance to meet women. The people who dominate that group are 35-45, those in < 35 make the LEAST. There's still 2x likely to met woman online. Proximity is no longer a guarantee for attention.

I cannot stress this enough, there has been less focus on socialization & men who're expected to initiate bear the brunt of this. There's an entire age group that's been told approaching is microaggression, don't approach without choosing signals, peacocking ( which by itself is masquerading to be something you're not ). On the subject of don't go to college. This was pushed to drive entrepreneurship which coincided with a period where there was high demand for blue collar work & social media as a business model. If you went to college the advise was pursuit financially rewarding fields like STEM. Its why although there's less men with degrees, those fields are still dominated by them. Nonetheless. here's comes the crux, men have been pushed the idea work on you, the women will come, put yourself out there. Most are finding out its not enough.

The largest marketplace for relationships - sexual, romantic, platonic, business is online and continues to trend upwards. Those women in school/church/work are on socials.

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[folasade]

Yeah they gotta stop internalizing it. Not everyone is not going to like you or want to be with you and that's ok. It's a multitude of reasons why she didn't hit you back just press forward. That's why you gotta talk and interact with multiple women. It's a numbers game. Brehs gotta start moving like that as well too. There's nothing wrong with talking to chics that you encounter and you don't see them again. They don't owe you anything and you don't owe them either. You might be out of paying for a drink or two but if you got some decent convo that's a fine price to pay.

I feel them on that the drinks part though, but you're right with the internalization. If a man a limited disposable income, I would suggest being more choosey with who you buy drinks for, and waiting until there's good conversation. Now, if she doesn't want to give a man the time of day until after he buys her a drink, move on. She is interested in a certain man at this time, and that's okay. It was never going to work out anyway.