There needs to be a 18-35 limit to these kind of threads: tired of old head yaps on the modern dating market. Yes there people who use the old methods but in ~15 years since its rise to prominence, online accounts for 3x relationship rate ( and rising ). Forget romantic connections, people are struggling to make or keep friends. Third spaces are non-existent: online is the substitute & both shapes + reflects people's ideals. Average dudes see no value "levelling" up. Observe dating shows & you get an idea of women's ideal, news flash its not the average dude. Young men have been getting disillusioned with society as a whole. In 2010s there'd been an alarming drop in male college attendance: was attributed to the differences in teaching/learning methods between genders. 2020's seen a decline in male work force participation. The messaging most get is that average isn't good & their response is to react with hostility ( redpill ) or give up ( blackpill ). These discussions are pointless as people will bring their anecdotes when the data is telling you, go to the gym, get certs & mouthpiece isn't the answer. Why? even those who're in relationships aren't getting married or having kids.
Why should you ignore me when I am still dating women in their mid 20’s to mid 30’s? When I was in my early to mid 20’s dating was harder, but then I worked on it and myself and after a while women became easier.
Also I hate to say this but as black men, if you can hold down a decent paying job, know how to look presentable, and can keep a conversation going. Women will start to pursue you, because them being around you validates their vanity.
Also getting married is on men, IE you have to make a decision to marry that woman and propose to her. That number going down is as much societal as everything else as men basically can move in with a woman and play house without marrying her. There isn’t really a benefit outside of taxes, mutual incomes, and having kids.
Now when it comes to having kids, that is on women, I had a job where they made having kids very affordable through health insurance and gave time off and the women on the job was having kids all the time. Some issue are economic, and some issues go beyond dating. Like I said earlier the abortion laws have messed this up because most places don’t support working mothers, so women are withdrawing from the dating pool due to fears of having a child they would have to raise alone.
The vitriol against women, needs to be aimed at conservative politicians and billionaires who keep trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, because they refuse to make thing easier for men For self serving purposes. Ya’ll complain about dating when two of the best dating apps of the last 15 years (Tinder and Hinge) got bought by the company that runs OK Cupid and transformed from being focused on dating and instead have been made into money pits designed around engagement. Also conservative keep promoting men to not go to college because of some machismo fantasy, and that is where all the women are.
Look at your graph. 27% of men say they meet women off the apps, but the apps are fukked up. However, alternatively, 25% of men say they meet women from work and school. Now women are going to college and getting, white collared job. However, these podcasters are telling men, don’t do that, go into the trades…. Where all you will do is work with other men.
The best chance as a man to meet women is to go to college and get a white collared job. That with the apps gives you a 52% chance to meet your wife. 55% if you go to church. Another option is don’t go to college, maybe go into a field with a lot of women like health care. That would give you a 37% chance to meet women. 40% if you go to church. Everything is a numbers game until it happens to you, and you got to give yourself a chance it can happen to you. If the apps don’t work from you, then you got to eat off of the other subcategories in that graph.
Basically, if ya’ll want to meet women choose a career path that fits that. Just like I was saying my former job was a career path that promoted women having babies. Economics runs shyt. Cash rules everything around me. Young men need to change their approaches. You are still young enough to adapt to the reality around you, you can’t change it, you can only change you.
