'Real Time with Bill Maher' is so awful now

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WHen was this? I watched this show for damn near 10 years, and never saw that.

I think it was mostly during the first-term Obama years when the Tea Party critique of "big government" was at its height.

Here is one old New Rules segment where he points out the benefits of a more socialist approach, points out how it works well in other countries, and rails against the hypocrisy of people who fearmonger about socialism but benefit from it and love it.




Here is another clip of Maher defending socialism and arguing that there are many things that should not be run for profit:





Maher has always had his blind spots (Islamophobia, the I/P issue, etc.) but there was a period where I thought he was more on point than not. I think he was actually an important voice regarding certain issues (and not just weed). But for the last 5-6 years at least, he's gone in a different direction (as I said in an earlier post, I think the starting point was when students protested his commencement speech, and since then PC liberals have been his biggest targets). It's gotten to the point where I don't watch his show anymore.
 
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I think it was mostly during the first-term Obama years when the Tea Party critique of "big government" was at its height.

Here is one old New Rules segment where he points out the benefits of a more socialist approach, points out how it works well in other countries, and rails against the hypocrisy of people who fearmonger about socialism but benefit from it and love it.




Here is another clip of Maher defending socialism and arguing that there are many things that should not be run for profit:


These don’t come across as supporting a socialist agenda as much as saying, “we benefit from things collectively,” and “you are defining socialism wrong.”
 

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These don’t come across as supporting a socialist agenda as much as saying, “we benefit from things collectively,” and “you are defining socialism wrong.”

Perhaps it doesn't come off as him wholeheartedly embracing socialism and arguing for radical change. But he did defend the benefits of a more socialist approach and argued that people use the term "socialism" to scare people when there are actually lots of "socialist" aspects of government that people like and are obviously far from scary. So that's something.

Maybe that doesn't sound like much, but this was before Bernie Sanders' run for president, etc., when almost nobody would use the term "socialism" (with or without any "democratic" qualifiers) in a nonnegative way. This was at the height of the Tea Party movement when all of the "serious" political pundits (in both parties) were arguing that government had gotten too big and we needed austerity and deficit reduction.

In any case, it is a far cry from where Maher is these days.
 

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Charlegman is the wrong person in that space to be making the argument for reparations. That is why the segment went the way it did. Maher has all these politicians and national writers to discuss a variety of topics. For reparations he got a vj?

Charlemagne is an idiot, not sure why he gets to be the voice of the Breakfast Club when Angie is clearly smarter and a more nuanced thinker than he.
 

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is it just me or with this 2 person format its impossible for bill and the crew to ever get checked.

2 things I noticed this season:

no strong intelligent POC that is shilling for bills POV

bill seems to be super self righteous and whiney this season more than ever before.


its makes me wonder how the show was ever tolerable to me
 

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I've been really sick of Bill for a long time and seen a lot of terrible takes by him in the past few years, but a friend sent me a recent piece on how China is kicking our country's ass, and he made a few good points. :manny:
 
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