Real Talk: What's motivating all these alt-right Internet guys?

[choc_cardigan]

You started from "THE FAR LEFT RUNS THE WHOLE SHOW" and finished at "So as you can see, most of the institutions we call liberal are actually quite conservative."



And you fell for the internet nazis' attempt at re-branding themselves as "the intellectual dark web" after everybody realized the alt-right were just internet nazis.

I felt like I lost IQ points from just reading the first paragraph of his word salad

 

[Althalucian]

You started from "THE FAR LEFT RUNS THE WHOLE SHOW" and finished at "So as you can see, most of the institutions we call liberal are actually quite conservative."



And you fell for the internet nazis' attempt at re-branding themselves as "the intellectual dark web" after everybody realized the alt-right were just internet nazis.

That quote about being afraid of black people can't be real. @Camile.Bidan defend yourself.

 

[mastermind]

I am not an Alt. Right person, but I think it's easy to understand where all this is coming from.

From what I see liberals, control nearly everything in mainstream media. Obviously CNN, NPR, MSNBC, NY times, Washington Post, Time magazine, Local news, late night talk shows, The Daily Show, HBO talk shows.. Then there is Hollywood... and now they control Video Game companies. I am not sure what Conservatives have in opposition to that. Talk radio and Fox news and that is about it.

Even the Chinese refer to mainstream western media as "liberal" in a demeaning manner.




I did consulting work for one of the huge Youtube channels and I worked at one of the largest Social Media companies. 99% of all employees at those companies were not just liberal but nearly on the far left.


On the internet, none of the alt. right platforms are that big in comparison to their opposition

Vox, Buzzfeed, TYT and others have way more viewers than Alex Jones, Steffen Molyneux, Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin, Sam Harris or Sargon of Akkad. Further, It's also very telling that the Left has labelled anyone who is even slightly to right of their extreme politics as Alt. Right.


Let's think about the people I just mentioned.

Steffen Molyneux-- a White nationalist libertarian.
Alex Jones -- A christian conservative
Sargon of Akkad -- a traditional leftists (labor rights/ socialism)
Dave Rubin -- Moderate leftist and Jew
Sam Harris -- Anti Zionist / Atheist /Socialist
Ben Shapiro -- Hyper Zionist Libertarian.


These guys couldn't be any more different, but they have collectively been labelled the figure heads of the Alt. Right. Now, The Alt Right even includes Bret weinstien (A progressive) and Jordan Peterson (who is from the objectivist school from what I can tell). The Alt. Right is just a growing collective of different viewpoints and perspectives that have been labelled as "wrong-think" by the Left's extreme leadership.

The only neutral and popular platform in ALL MEDIA is the Joe Rogan Podcast, and that's it. Everything else in media is hyper polarized.

The left has spent a long time maneuvering their way into dominate position to influence society. The left doesn't use it's platform to influence people, through reason and logic, to jump on their platform. I rarely hear figure heads on the left actually talking up the unions, talking about worker's rights, or increased welfare programs, or better trade policies to protect American workers. 100% of the Liberal mouthpieces are full on ranting about LGBTQXYZ, pandering and playing up racial hierarchies, and attacking men at every moment.

If a movement is built on attacking people, putting people into inseparable groups, and pandering/ fanning the flames of an inter-ethnic civil war, what is going to be the expected outcome? It's the exact outcome that is happening now. Lines have been drawn. People are venting their frustrations on a safe platform like the internet, but sooner or later, it's going to spill over into the streets.

As result a HUGE counter-culture movement has sprung up, and that's what is happening on the streets of America and within the so-called Dark Web movement, which is helmed by people like Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro. The new term "Dark Web" is a better description of what is happening. Alt. Right is a specific set of National Socialist ideas that have been championed by Internet dikkheads like RamzPaul or Richard Spencer.


Go to places like Reno, NV. Detroit, Stockton CA, Sacramento CA, Cleveland OH and many other non-coastal, non-texan cities in the untied states, and it's obvious that these places are turning backwards and have been turning backwards for the last 15 years. They don't even seem like 1st world areas anymore. Many of these places having many desperate white people that feel like their voices aren't being heard, and a equal amount of desperate blacks and Hispanics who only cling to the democrat party because of a racial alliance. Something is going to give, and the internet comments are just a symptom of something dangerous that is brewing.

When you look at the Democrat strongholds like Redwood City, Los Gatos, Marin Country or Palo Alto, is almost sickening to see what they all have in common-- Ultra rich, Ultra white, uppity, Whole Foods, BMWs, Tesla's and Farmer's markets. That is the true face of the democratic party, and I think most people are starting to wake up to that.

be mentally ill, brehs

 

[Black Panther]

Did this dude really refer to Alex Jones as a "Christian conservative" and Rubin as a "Moderate leftist"?

Dave Rubin receives promotion (and funding, IMO) from the Cato Institute, a libertarian think-tank directly funded by the Koch brothers. He's libertarian from the opinions he expresses.

Alex Jones has described himself as a "paleo-conservative" and is pretty far-right.
The f*ck you smoking, man?

 

[Shogun]

The internet is a breading ground for anger and extremism - mostly because you don't have to interact with real people and consider them as such. Combine that with the still largely segregated nature of American society and most of these alt-righters on the internet have never actually known or interacted with black people, Muslim people, etc....hell, even Democrats. All they know is the hateful garbage they can easily access online.

I'm starting to think the internet is more detrimental to Liberal society than helpful.

 

[Slystallion]

Cuz of winning....fans of sports teams seem to multiply when they are successful and win championships

Trump has been winning since 2015

It's time to bask in the glory of all this great policy going on

 

[BoBurnz]

Doesn't @Camile.Bidan have more PRC dikk to suck? I think his last Chinese check bounced, it's okay, stagnant economy and all. Understandable.

Cuz of winning....fans of sports teams seem to multiply when they are successful and win championships

Trump has been winning since 2015

It's time to bask in the glory of all this great policy going on

Yes because nothing says rational well reasoned people like just posting fukking memes.

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

The internet is a breading ground for anger and extremism - mostly because you don't have to interact with real people and consider them as such. Combine that with the still largely segregated nature of American society and most of these alt-righters on the internet have never actually known or interacted with black people, Muslim people, etc....hell, even Democrats. All they know is the hateful garbage they can easily access online.

I'm starting to think the internet is more detrimental to Liberal society than helpful.

Agree alot with this. Communication on the internet definitely brought about changes for the worse that I don't think many people could have foreseen.

These alt-right pussies have to know how inherently inferior and bytchmade they are. For all their talk about "irony" and offending social norms, they have to also see the true irony in only being bold enough to speak your mind in the shadows of the internet. That's the definition of cowardice, and deep down they know it.

That has to fuel their hatred of themselves and others. Being afraid to speak your mind cuz you don't want your jaw rocked or face societal consequences of being an open racist has to make their soul burn slow.

 

[Zime]

I also see the rise of attacks on Islam on the Internet

 

[Shogun]

Agree alot with this. Communication on the internet definitely brought about changes for the worse that I don't think many people could have foreseen.

These alt-right pussies have to know how inherently inferior and bytchmade they are. For all their talk about "irony" and offending social norms, they have to also see the true irony in only being bold enough to speak your mind in the shadows of the internet. That's the definition of cowardice, and deep down they know it.

That has to fuel their hatred of themselves and others. Being afraid to speak your mind cuz you don't want your jaw rocked or face societal consequences of being an open racist has to make their soul burn slow.

I haven't fully thought this out, but part of me feels like the internet needs to be treated like any other public space, and anonymity should be done away with. If, for example, everyone who posts on HL was posting as their real identity then all the rules of public decorum would still generally apply. I'm sure there's a lot of negatives to that that I'm not thinking of, but something along those lines would help.

 

[Scott Larock]

The anonymity of the internet shields them from shame. Also, demographic shifts in the US and other parts of the West fosters a feeling of loss which leads to desperation, which can make people reckless.

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They (white people) feel like their power is losing, feel like they're being forced to accept change. Also lower rates of marriage amount young whites is causing them to worry, along with white women somewhat interracial dating.

Asians can take their jobs (good high paying) jobs, blacks and browns can sleep with thier women, hispanics and basically imitating their culture of marriage and family while commiting in their minds less crime then black folks.

They feel they under attack, alt right trolls liked baked alaska will go to rallies and cause trouble knowing their not wanted.

Fear of losing everything that they built, plus when one of these white girls sleep with a black dude, they so hurt they consider her damaged goods for life.

 

[Black Panther]

I haven't fully thought this out, but part of me feels like the internet needs to be treated like any other public space, and anonymity should be done away with. If, for example, everyone who posts on HL was posting as their real identity then all the rules of public decorum would still generally apply. I'm sure there's a lot of negatives to that that I'm not thinking of, but something along those lines would help.

YOOOOOO HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THIS NEW SOCIAL MEDIA SITE CALLED FACEBOOK?

 

[re'up]

I was thinking the same thing

 

[Shogun]

YOOOOOO HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THIS NEW SOCIAL MEDIA SITE CALLED FACEBOOK?

I don't think the majority of outwardly extremist views are prepetuated on Facebook. I could be wrong, I haven't looked at facebook in over 5 years.

 

[re'up]

I don't have Facebook either, but it is pretty much the same as the "anonymous" internet. Full of extremism, blatant racism, all of that. Esp. since November 2016.