Real talk, the NBA is probably the most frustrating sport to watch

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u did not watch those series :naw:

:rudy: I watched all three of those nikkas go out like hoes as their heavily favored squad got ran off the court. :usure: the Pistons coulda withstood 38 and 18 Shaq plus 30 ppg Kobe? :usure: the Mavs could handle 30, 8, 8 Bron. :comeon:
 

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:rudy: I watched all three of those nikkas go out like hoes as their heavily favored squad got ran off the court. :usure: the Pistons coulda withstood 38 and 18 Shaq plus 30 ppg Kobe? :usure: the Mavs could handle 30, 8, 8 Bron. :comeon:

how many games that entire playoff run did shaq and kobe both get 30 plus in the same game? how many times did they both do that against the pistons in any games they played in the season before and that season? nikkas really be shytting on that detroit defense like we weren't holding teams to 60 points in multiple games...and that mav series was coming down to who had the better defense as well and miami looked foolish when the mavericks locked them in to zone and tyson chandler held the paint down. Not to mention jj barea/jason terry helped that team more so then wade/chalmers were. Lebron COULD have probably done more, sure, but i dont think nikkas give the mavs credit with how well they played that entire playoffs run. That nikka dirk was :mindblown: like he was playing for his life the entire playoff run
 

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They haven't won a Superbowl in 8 years if they don't win this year. There's the difference. They're a constant, and every league has a constant team, whether it's the Lakers, Spurs, Pats, Yankees, Red Sox for a long time, Red Wings, etc. The constant might not always win it all, but a constant is always there. On the flip side there tends to be teams that always suck (Browns, Bills, T'wolves, Pirates, Islanders). In the NBA, there just happens to be less of a change between good and bad. I don't think fans get mad at some teams always being good (hell, they'll tell you the league is better when they are good). It's that there doesn't seem to be much room for advancement. Those options always seem to be there. In the NBA, not so much, and not only is it not so much, the same of cast of characters are always there.

Add my Raiders to that list. The reason those teams always suck is because they have shytty GM's/Scouts. If the Raiders draft Megatron instead of Jamarcus Russell look where they'd be. If the Wolves drafted Monroe or Paul George instead of Wesley Johnson imagine where they would be. If the Warriors drafted Kobe instead of Todd Fuller imagine where they would be. The disparity between good teams and bad teams are their front office. Every team in the NBA has a chance to draft a good player other teams slept on. The Raiders been in the gutter since the Ruff Ryders were relevant because we always drafted terribly 95% of the time. If your team has a good GM/Scout dept. then they'll contend. If not then look forward to the front office fukking up the next draft.
 

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how many games that entire playoff run did shaq and kobe both get 30 plus in the same game? how many times did they both do that against the pistons in any games they played in the season before and that season? nikkas really be shytting on that detroit defense like we weren't holding teams to 60 points in multiple games...and that mav series was coming down to who had the better defense as well and miami looked foolish when the mavericks locked them in to zone and tyson chandler held the paint down. Not to mention jj barea/jason terry helped that team more so then wade/chalmers were. Lebron COULD have probably done more, sure, but i dont think nikkas give the mavs credit with how well they played that entire playoffs run. That nikka dirk was :mindblown: like he was playing for his life the entire playoff run

If I am not mistaken they both had 30 in game 2 aka the only game LA won. :heh: Shaq was fat and didn't even try on D and Kobe was launching fadeaway 3's. The Pistons were too good for them to just squeak by on talent like they did the Spurs and they didn't make it easy by getting injured. Last thing I would ever do is hate on the Pistons but I call it like I see it.

As far the Heat/Mavs go Lebron SHOULD have definitely done more and the Dirk myth needs to die. He played better in 2006 and those clutch shots mean nothing if the Heat had actually had Bron out there instead of Myrtle Urkel.
 

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Add my Raiders to that list. The reason those teams always suck is because they have shytty GM's/Scouts. If the Raiders draft Megatron instead of Jamarcus Russell look where they'd be. If the Wolves drafted Monroe or Paul George instead of Wesley Johnson imagine where they would be. If the Warriors drafted Kobe instead of Todd Fuller imagine where they would be. The disparity between good teams and bad teams are their front office. Every team in the NBA has a chance to draft a good player other teams slept on. The Raiders been in the gutter since the Ruff Ryders were relevant because we always drafted terribly 95% of the time. If your team has a good GM/Scout dept. then they'll contend. If not then look forward to the front office fukking up the next draft.

:what:

GTFOH with that shyt. The Raiders should never be compared to those trash teams. History speaks for itself.
 

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Add my Raiders to that list. The reason those teams always suck is because they have shytty GM's/Scouts. If the Raiders draft Megatron instead of Jamarcus Russell look where they'd be. If the Wolves drafted Monroe or Paul George instead of Wesley Johnson imagine where they would be. If the Warriors drafted Kobe instead of Todd Fuller imagine where they would be. The disparity between good teams and bad teams are their front office. Every team in the NBA has a chance to draft a good player other teams slept on. The Raiders been in the gutter since the Ruff Ryders were relevant because we always drafted terribly 95% of the time. If your team has a good GM/Scout dept. then they'll contend. If not then look forward to the front office fukking up the next draft.

1. we don't know that.

2. You're naive in thinking that's it's merely front offices that make or break teams in the NBA. In the NBA, depending on where you are, your management doesn't have to be great for your team to be successful.

The funny thing is, if the Raiders have a good draft, making the playoffs as a wild card isn't inconceivable. The Pirates haven't made the playoffs in 20 years. Them winning a division isn't impossible. The potential turnaround can happen much faster than in the NBA. You could do everything right in the NBA and rebuilding will still take a long ass time before you possibly see results and even then, the endgame doesn't mean you'll have a chance at a Finals or a Championship.
 

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Add my Raiders to that list. The reason those teams always suck is because they have shytty GM's/Scouts. If the Raiders draft Megatron instead of Jamarcus Russell look where they'd be. If the Wolves drafted Monroe or Paul George instead of Wesley Johnson imagine where they would be. If the Warriors drafted Kobe instead of Todd Fuller imagine where they would be. The disparity between good teams and bad teams are their front office. Every team in the NBA has a chance to draft a good player other teams slept on. The Raiders been in the gutter since the Ruff Ryders were relevant because we always drafted terribly 95% of the time. If your team has a good GM/Scout dept. then they'll contend. If not then look forward to the front office fukking up the next draft.
Al put us in hell :damn: but give it 2-3 yrs get rid of deadweight draft right and well be top of AFC again :smugbiden:
 

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1. we don't know that.

2. You're naive in thinking that's it's merely front offices that make or break teams in the NBA. In the NBA, depending on where you are, your management doesn't have to be great for your team to be successful.

The funny thing is, if the Raiders have a good draft, making the playoffs as a wild card isn't inconceivable. The Pirates haven't made the playoffs in 20 years. Them winning a division isn't impossible. The potential turnaround can happen much faster than in the NBA. You could do everything right in the NBA and rebuilding will still take a long ass time before you possibly see results and even then, the endgame doesn't mean you'll have a chance at a Finals or a Championship.

You dead wrong on all accounts. It's no coincedence that teams with good GM's seem to do well. Sam Presti learned from R.C Buford. The Magic's new GM also learned from Buford, that's how he made me look like an idiot in the Dwight trade for saying Orlando got robbed when in hindsight you could argue Vucevic has the brighter future than any player involved in that trade. Good GM's make good moves. R.C Buford is regarded as the best in the league because regardless of where he drafts he finds a player that can help his team win that other teams passed on. When you fukk up your 1st round pick you're basically setting your team back 5 years at least. Minny done fukked up so many picks that they'd be championship contenders if they would've taken guys that went after the guy they drafted. Realistically Minny could have a roster of Pek,Love,George,Curry,Rubio. That starting 5 could be a finals contender every year imo. I don't fukk with baseball so I can't explain why the Pirates been in the dump but i'm sure if you look at their drafts you probably can the culprit. Draft well and trade well and you're OKC/Spurs status. Show me a team that has drafted and traded well the last 10 years that's in the dump.
 

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Add my Raiders to that list. The reason those teams always suck is because they have shytty GM's/Scouts. If the Raiders draft Megatron instead of Jamarcus Russell look where they'd be. If the Wolves drafted Monroe or Paul George instead of Wesley Johnson imagine where they would be. If the Warriors drafted Kobe instead of Todd Fuller imagine where they would be. The disparity between good teams and bad teams are their front office. Every team in the NBA has a chance to draft a good player other teams slept on. The Raiders been in the gutter since the Ruff Ryders were relevant because we always drafted terribly 95% of the time. If your team has a good GM/Scout dept. then they'll contend. If not then look forward to the front office fukking up the next draft.

While the first part is true, the second part is completely false. Basketball is more predictable in terms of talent too. Where are the Bradys, Rice's, McCoys, Morrises, Kapernicks, Fosters, Gronks, Grahams, Brees, etc. in the NBA. Sure you have good players drop to the low 1st or second round in the NBA every so often but in the NFL you have a shot at the best player at their position later on in the draft. You can pretty much guarantee that an impact player will go later in the draft every year. In the NBA you have little to no shot at the best of the best if you aren't in the lottery.
 

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Al put us in hell :damn: but give it 2-3 yrs get rid of deadweight draft right and well be top of AFC again :smugbiden:

Exactly. In the end Al was a bad GM. Mckenzie may be a good GM and if he is then we'll be back on top in no time. The Patriots robbed us in the Seymour trade, the Bengals robbed us in the Palmer trade(I know Al had nothing to do with it) but the underlying fact is that a good GM doesn't make those trades. The Patriots stay winning because they stay robbing. Good GM's rob mufukkas. The Warriors have a good GM now. That's how we were able to convince Landry to sign and trade Dorrell for Jack, both moves helped us alot as well as the trading of Monta and the tanking for Harrison. Smart GM's and scouts are everything to an organization.
 

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While the first part is true, the second part is completely false. Basketball is more predictable in terms of talent too. Where are the Bradys, Rice's, McCoys, Morrises, Kapernicks, Fosters, Gronks, Grahams, Brees, etc. in the NBA. Sure you have good players drop to the low 1st or second round in the NBA every so often but in the NFL you have a shot at the best player at their position later on in the draft. You can pretty much guarantee that an impact player will go later in the draft every year. In the NBA you have little to no shot at the best of the best if you aren't in the lottery.

The Spurs stay finding gems late in the draft breh. The Lakers actually draft terribly but since they got Kobe and a city where every player wants to live they've been able to benefit from players wanting to sign or be traded there.
 

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Basically, there's always just 2-3 teams that has a legit opportunity to win a chip.



Unless you acquire a top 15 player, then there's no way in hell you'll be a legit team(sans 04 Pistons). So if you're a small market team, then you better draft well or stockpile on young players/picks to trade for a star.



Basketball is still fun, it's just crazy about how only a few teams can actually compete for a chip. Unless you a Heat/Thunder/Clipper fan, then there's no hope til 2015 the earliest :wow: :damn:
you realize you just contradicted yourself? This is not the season to make this thread

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nah, each team's story is usually interesting in some unique ways. Bulls have been playing some of the best defense in the league and are playoff bound without their mvp point guard...plus if you watch for players rather support a team, you always have games you could watch

i think the rivalry aspect the league used to promote is not really there like it used to be...only rivals tbh are lakers/clippers and maybe heat/thunder when it comes to promoted/must see games

nba is still promoting some rivalries.

knicks/bulls is back on and poppin
knicks/celtics is a rivalry
knicks/brooklyn is a new cross town rivalry
bulls/pacers is our conference rivalry
bulls/celtics is always a rivalry too
 
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