Raw Rating - 2.55
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Brad Piff
The Money & The Miles
- WWE CFO George Barrios participated in the 40th annual UBS Global Media Conference in New York City on Monday and said the company is very focused on creating new content, according to a transcript on SeekingAlpha.com.
It doesn't sound like WWE will be taking RAW back to two hours anytime soon. Barrios touted that the third hour of RAW is up 35% versus the programming that was airing in its place on the USA Network. He added that USA is very happy with that. Barrios also noted that Saturday Morning Slam on the CW Network is up 50% over what it replaced and Main Event on Ion is up about 15% from the programming it replaced.
Barrios also talked about five major deals that WWE has coming up for renewal over the next few years, ones that he is confident about - RAW on USA, SmackDown on SyFy, BSkyB in the UK, Taj TV in India and Mattel.
Barrios briefly discussed the WWE Network but didn't really say anything new from what we've heard already. He mentioned that WWE feels there is too much there in a potential Network not to keep pushing at it. WWE believes the payoff could be too large to give up on it and continue to push on that.
maybe if usa knew tsc wasnt too thrilled bout them ratings theyd take it back to 2 hours
It doesn't sound like WWE will be taking RAW back to two hours anytime soon. Barrios touted that the third hour of RAW is up 35% versus the programming that was airing in its place on the USA Network. He added that USA is very happy with that. Barrios also noted that Saturday Morning Slam on the CW Network is up 50% over what it replaced and Main Event on Ion is up about 15% from the programming it replaced.
Barrios also talked about five major deals that WWE has coming up for renewal over the next few years, ones that he is confident about - RAW on USA, SmackDown on SyFy, BSkyB in the UK, Taj TV in India and Mattel.
Barrios briefly discussed the WWE Network but didn't really say anything new from what we've heard already. He mentioned that WWE feels there is too much there in a potential Network not to keep pushing at it. WWE believes the payoff could be too large to give up on it and continue to push on that.
maybe if usa knew tsc wasnt too thrilled bout them ratings theyd take it back to 2 hours
It doesn't sound like WWE will be taking RAW back to two hours anytime soon. Barrios touted that the third hour of RAW is up 35% versus the programming that was airing in its place on the USA Network. He added that USA is very happy with that. Barrios also noted that Saturday Morning Slam on the CW Network is up 50% over what it replaced and Main Event on Ion is up about 15% from the programming it replaced.
If the ratings get low enough we might be getting back to more Attitude Era-like fukkery
Nah, but seriously though....they really need main-eventers, feuds and storylines that people can actually care about. shyt like the Punk/Bryan/AJ love triangle ain't cuttin' it. Hell....Punk ain't cuttin' it, period
When TNA start beating them in rating. We going to have a new era.
GoddamnyamanProf
Countdown to Armageddon
I coulda told you Warrior sucked when I was 8 years old.
Someone mind explaining the story behind @R=G and freeways?
Heard about it since sohh but never knew what it was about
When CM Punk did the Pipe Bomb shoot, he was going on about Dwayne making him sick. My hater brigade wanted some instant reaction from him when he said that but I was on the freeway until about 11:30pm EST and didn't even see the segment until later that night on youtube. They claimed it was convenient even though I was missing main event segments all year long and would always download it later, as I've usually would mention over and over again.
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Are they talking about the 8 oclock hour cause the 10 oclock has to be down- WWE CFO George Barrios participated in the 40th annual UBS Global Media Conference in New York City on Monday and said the company is very focused on creating new content, according to a transcript on SeekingAlpha.com.
It doesn't sound like WWE will be taking RAW back to two hours anytime soon. Barrios touted that the third hour of RAW is up 35% versus the programming that was airing in its place on the USA Network. He added that USA is very happy with that. Barrios also noted that Saturday Morning Slam on the CW Network is up 50% over what it replaced and Main Event on Ion is up about 15% from the programming it replaced.
Barrios also talked about five major deals that WWE has coming up for renewal over the next few years, ones that he is confident about - RAW on USA, SmackDown on SyFy, BSkyB in the UK, Taj TV in India and Mattel.
Barrios briefly discussed the WWE Network but didn't really say anything new from what we've heard already. He mentioned that WWE feels there is too much there in a potential Network not to keep pushing at it. WWE believes the payoff could be too large to give up on it and continue to push on that.
maybe if usa knew tsc wasnt too thrilled bout them ratings theyd take it back to 2 hours
They lost 500k and no way was the last hour getting that back It's been on the decline since Raw 1000.
It's been on the decline since Raw 1000.
Someone said it best when they said that the only thing ratings are going to do is create more opportunities for Vince to shake shyt up. If Ryback was the byproduct of the last Vince panic attack, then what will be the culmination of his next one? If last week's MNF game was big enough to help the dent in the ratings, how big is that New England/Houston damage gonna be like?
Byrates for TLC will tell the tale of how damaging or not this week's ratings are, but those numbers won't get released for some time. RAW could easily pick back up in the post-MNF Mondays by the time TLC buyrates are released.
Byrates for TLC will tell the tale of how damaging or not this week's ratings are, but those numbers won't get released for some time. RAW could easily pick back up in the post-MNF Mondays by the time TLC buyrates are released.
KingOFKings
All Star
OP. For as long as you've been watching wrestling.. I can't believe you truly think it's because of who the champion is.
I haven't watched wrestling in the last couple weeks, why? Because the complete product is TRASH. Punk is actually one of the highlights of the show, yet the rest of the show doesn't warrant me turning on my television set to watch Punk, that has nothing to do with Punk.. everything to do with the writing, whole entire segment. I don't want to waste my precious time watching a talent like Daniel Bryan being wasted before hour eyes in a side show comedy act. I don't want to waste my time watching the Miz anymore, I've seen the likes of HBK, Steamboat, Jericho.. WWE is not fooling me. I'm not wasting my time watching a 40 year old Big Show get 10 minutes of mic time..over hungry talented wrestlers who can spit..Ziggler should easily be getting 10 minutes a night. I'm not wasting my time watching a talentless charisma deprived shmuck like Shameus get airtime anymore. I'm not wasting my time watching a bony 7/10 woman pretend talk and "general manage" a show like RAW. I'm not wasting my time or energy trying to keep track of which rivarly is going to change, and which stupid stipulation is going to be added to the main even match at the last second. I'm not wasting my time watching a guy dressed up as Goldberg. I'm not wasting my time watching this circus anymore!
When wrestling ratings were at their peak, it was always because from the start of the show all the way until the end it was exciting with a continuous flow of story lines that made sense.
In the mid 2000's they were still somewhat higher than now because the overall show was still a bit better than it is today, not because of who the champ was. Also, like myself, I'm sure a lot of us believed that it was only a matter of time before the show turned around again..or "something" big happened.
That something "big" will never happen, until they get rid of the writing team and the way the show is over produced today. You can switch in whatever champ you want and try to sugar coat it. The rock in his PRIME as the champ would not make the ratings budge by much..you know why? Because the rest of the show would STILL be hot garbage... that is due to the writing, NOT the talent level of the top performers today.
Every rivalry is fly by night, and makes little to no sense. Feuds start and end with no explanation..there's no flow, rhyme or reason to anything. Until you get real wrestling people writing the show and producing it.. it will be a failed reality t.v sportsman show attempt at "pro wrestling". What the WWE fails to realize is that you can still be cutting edge, and popular without moving away from the integrity of what pro wrestling is all about.
The WWE lost when they stopped doing them, and tried doing hollywood. The only people who will watch wrestling are wrestling fans, or people who have the potential to be wrestling fans. Trying to make it into a gimmicky reality sports show with useless story lines and things changing every week, is a sure fire way of failing. The products ends up looking like a half assed product..just corny.
It's an embarrassing product. Switch in whoever you want at that top spot, even Hogan at his peak would barely budge these crappy ratings..as he'd be bogged down to doing the same syndicated repetitive crap with a different opponent every week.
Nobody wants to watch this corny garbage anymore. The only ones still watching are young kids, or people with the hope that "something" will happen to magically change the direction of RAW. That's the ONLY reason I watched it the past decade.
I suggest you guys stop wasting 3 hours of your life, move on, until the product gets better. They don't deserve your ratings or precious time. Go learn some yoga, go evolve as a human being. Meditate, anything.
You only live once! Why waste it watching a product that's not even TRULY catered to you and for you any more? Doing so, is the definition of insanity itself.
I haven't watched wrestling in the last couple weeks, why? Because the complete product is TRASH. Punk is actually one of the highlights of the show, yet the rest of the show doesn't warrant me turning on my television set to watch Punk, that has nothing to do with Punk.. everything to do with the writing, whole entire segment. I don't want to waste my precious time watching a talent like Daniel Bryan being wasted before hour eyes in a side show comedy act. I don't want to waste my time watching the Miz anymore, I've seen the likes of HBK, Steamboat, Jericho.. WWE is not fooling me. I'm not wasting my time watching a 40 year old Big Show get 10 minutes of mic time..over hungry talented wrestlers who can spit..Ziggler should easily be getting 10 minutes a night. I'm not wasting my time watching a talentless charisma deprived shmuck like Shameus get airtime anymore. I'm not wasting my time watching a bony 7/10 woman pretend talk and "general manage" a show like RAW. I'm not wasting my time or energy trying to keep track of which rivarly is going to change, and which stupid stipulation is going to be added to the main even match at the last second. I'm not wasting my time watching a guy dressed up as Goldberg. I'm not wasting my time watching this circus anymore!
When wrestling ratings were at their peak, it was always because from the start of the show all the way until the end it was exciting with a continuous flow of story lines that made sense.
In the mid 2000's they were still somewhat higher than now because the overall show was still a bit better than it is today, not because of who the champ was. Also, like myself, I'm sure a lot of us believed that it was only a matter of time before the show turned around again..or "something" big happened.
That something "big" will never happen, until they get rid of the writing team and the way the show is over produced today. You can switch in whatever champ you want and try to sugar coat it. The rock in his PRIME as the champ would not make the ratings budge by much..you know why? Because the rest of the show would STILL be hot garbage... that is due to the writing, NOT the talent level of the top performers today.
Every rivalry is fly by night, and makes little to no sense. Feuds start and end with no explanation..there's no flow, rhyme or reason to anything. Until you get real wrestling people writing the show and producing it.. it will be a failed reality t.v sportsman show attempt at "pro wrestling". What the WWE fails to realize is that you can still be cutting edge, and popular without moving away from the integrity of what pro wrestling is all about.
The WWE lost when they stopped doing them, and tried doing hollywood. The only people who will watch wrestling are wrestling fans, or people who have the potential to be wrestling fans. Trying to make it into a gimmicky reality sports show with useless story lines and things changing every week, is a sure fire way of failing. The products ends up looking like a half assed product..just corny.
It's an embarrassing product. Switch in whoever you want at that top spot, even Hogan at his peak would barely budge these crappy ratings..as he'd be bogged down to doing the same syndicated repetitive crap with a different opponent every week.
Nobody wants to watch this corny garbage anymore. The only ones still watching are young kids, or people with the hope that "something" will happen to magically change the direction of RAW. That's the ONLY reason I watched it the past decade.
I suggest you guys stop wasting 3 hours of your life, move on, until the product gets better. They don't deserve your ratings or precious time. Go learn some yoga, go evolve as a human being. Meditate, anything.
You only live once! Why waste it watching a product that's not even TRULY catered to you and for you any more? Doing so, is the definition of insanity itself.
Nah..I don't really buy that wholesale. When change came and the whole New Generation garbage SUCKED HARDCORE dikk with Bret/Shawn/Diesel on top, Razor was a stand out but he wasn't pushed hard enough or treated with respect in the top position to influence things like he did when he got to WCW in that Outsiders role. Austin's cussing and change of format was a different spin on a weak show in 1996. The Austin/Bret thing where they wanted to work together and push things is how it all started to go in a different direction. All of that stuff with Sid wasn't mattering. All of the stuff with Marc Mero and Owen didn't count. It was the Austin/Bret rivalry heading into 1997 that got hot and especially into WM 13. They still were getting beat by Sting and the NwO but it was starting to dice up a little. That took a hot character like Austin and a guy like Bret to take some hits and falls to make it look good. If Bret was political, he could of just did the squash stuff on Austin and everything would of been fukked. McMahon never gave a fukk about Austin until early 97 when the shirt sales were starting to count and you could visibly see in arenas his effect.
If the leader of today's WWE doesn't have that kind of presence, it falls on him. Who else is it gonna fall on? He says he writes his own promos and needs no scripts and whatnot. He talks a big game like he's a second tier Austin. Those are big words and they carry a domino effect. Who's left? Is it on the Miz? A jobber midcard face? Is it on a often injured Mysterio? Yeah right. Is it on Hell No who gets half pushed even though the crowd wants more of them? No..it's on the top guy that gets protected and has all the storylines like Cena and Punk. Nobody is getting built enough elsewhere for them to have responsibility. The writing doesn't care about them and I doubt they got influence enough like Punk to try to do their promos without being held back in some form...Ryder put alot of shyt together and it got over BIG but they said fukk him and just jobbed him out to all kind of cats in 3 minutes and shyt like that. They damn near didn't want to give him that moment @ Survivor Series 2011.
So yes..it does fall on who leads because that's who the company jacks off to and give god like pushes to.
If the leader of today's WWE doesn't have that kind of presence, it falls on him. Who else is it gonna fall on? He says he writes his own promos and needs no scripts and whatnot. He talks a big game like he's a second tier Austin. Those are big words and they carry a domino effect. Who's left? Is it on the Miz? A jobber midcard face? Is it on a often injured Mysterio? Yeah right. Is it on Hell No who gets half pushed even though the crowd wants more of them? No..it's on the top guy that gets protected and has all the storylines like Cena and Punk. Nobody is getting built enough elsewhere for them to have responsibility. The writing doesn't care about them and I doubt they got influence enough like Punk to try to do their promos without being held back in some form...Ryder put alot of shyt together and it got over BIG but they said fukk him and just jobbed him out to all kind of cats in 3 minutes and shyt like that. They damn near didn't want to give him that moment @ Survivor Series 2011.
So yes..it does fall on who leads because that's who the company jacks off to and give god like pushes to.
Bob Loblaw
Superstar
Man, from the ratings breakdown it looks like people are tuning out on all of this shyt. To pin it on one person is foolish, Miz caused people to tune out on the main event in droves, Cena Show Zzzzziggler and Sheamus caused a weak 9pm spike
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To pin it on one person is foolish, Miz caused people to tune out on the main event in droves, Cena Show Zzzzziggler and Sheamus caused a weak 9pm spike\
The Great One
Swag Surfin
King of Kings, I do not feel like writing a longass response, but the fact this guy has the 7 lowest rated overruns in history is appalling and I will indulge you.
We can talk about the writing, when we were kids, Cena, etc...But in reality the writing has been TERRIBLE before (Cena vs Khali for the WWE title storylines, Katie Vick, When Triple H was champion in like 03-04 with one and out PPVs where he was squashing everyone and was very predictable he was going to win - RVD, Kane, Steiner, etc...Hell, how about 4 MONTHS AGO when the main storyline of Raw was Cena vs Big Show for the 800th time with John Laurinitis - that did much better than Punk now!) and none of those ratings are even straight touching this Punk era.
You can even throw in the the 3 hour excuse...Which to me is the dumbest of all. We have been programmed since the mid 90s that the end of Raw is the climax of the show, where everything happens. Austin-Rock confrontations, DX shyt, hell even the modern era now with Nexus 2 years ago. Now, people aren't watching that anymore. How can the overrun of Raw gain only like 250,000 viewers from a Damian Sandow vs like Zack Ryder match? I mean are you joking?
These people are on here are dumb as fukk with their smug smilies like "Punk gained the most viewers" of course he did idiots. It's the overrun of RAW, we have been programmed to watch that. But interest is waning and leaving QUICKLY. No one is saying that NO ONE is watching Punk or interested in him. They are. It's just MILLIONS AND MILLIONS less people than a year ago interested and if the Rock didn't show up soon, or Cena doesn't push himself in the main event scene, wrestling will be dead.
We can talk about the writing, when we were kids, Cena, etc...But in reality the writing has been TERRIBLE before (Cena vs Khali for the WWE title storylines, Katie Vick, When Triple H was champion in like 03-04 with one and out PPVs where he was squashing everyone and was very predictable he was going to win - RVD, Kane, Steiner, etc...Hell, how about 4 MONTHS AGO when the main storyline of Raw was Cena vs Big Show for the 800th time with John Laurinitis - that did much better than Punk now!) and none of those ratings are even straight touching this Punk era.
You can even throw in the the 3 hour excuse...Which to me is the dumbest of all. We have been programmed since the mid 90s that the end of Raw is the climax of the show, where everything happens. Austin-Rock confrontations, DX shyt, hell even the modern era now with Nexus 2 years ago. Now, people aren't watching that anymore. How can the overrun of Raw gain only like 250,000 viewers from a Damian Sandow vs like Zack Ryder match? I mean are you joking?
These people are on here are dumb as fukk with their smug smilies like "Punk gained the most viewers" of course he did idiots. It's the overrun of RAW, we have been programmed to watch that. But interest is waning and leaving QUICKLY. No one is saying that NO ONE is watching Punk or interested in him. They are. It's just MILLIONS AND MILLIONS less people than a year ago interested and if the Rock didn't show up soon, or Cena doesn't push himself in the main event scene, wrestling will be dead.