Raw Rating - 2.55

[Bob Loblaw]

Wrestling won't die, but WWE will be knocked down a peg.

It's what's best for business and I can't wait til it's getting 1s and Vince has to pull his head out of his ass and compete again.

By sinking this ship Trips really is doing what's best for business.

 

[ThatTruth777]

@KingOFKings Man.. things were looking like they were turning around after the last Wrestlemania

Brock came in busted open Cena's face and crushed the buildings for a moment and the show had a electricty to it where that 'anything can happen' feel remained due to Rock whipping Cena's ass .

-BUT THEN... Linda McMahon ran for political office , they Disney-fy the product every time she runs to the point where its embarrassing to be a fan of the shyt in public breh.

-And Cena filed for divorce so I guess they had to make him happy letting him rub JR's BBQ sauce on Cole.

-Another thing that's not really a big deal or anything and it may just be me but.. I'll just say I'm not against breast cancer awareness but pink ropes really made wrestling in that month look fruity

If you peep Smackdown every now and then you would see that its really not that bad of a show. Its 2 hours yeah but it has a consistent feel to it where its not bad but not so mind blowingly good either. What I'm getting at is that RAW prolly sucks because Vince is fukking with the writers too much. The writers may be hollywood but writing for wrestling aint rocket science.

Most of the time during RAW, I'm doing work or multitasking because if I had to straight up watch RAW without that shyt mannnnn... I'd be

 

[KingOFKings]

King of Kings, I do not feel like writing a longass response, but the fact this guy has the 7 lowest rated overruns in history is appalling and I will indulge you.

We can talk about the writing, when we were kids, Cena, etc...But in reality the writing has been TERRIBLE before (Cena vs Khali for the WWE title storylines, Katie Vick, When Triple H was champion in like 03-04 with one and out PPVs where he was squashing everyone and was very predictable he was going to win - RVD, Kane, Steiner, etc...Hell, how about 4 MONTHS AGO when the main storyline of Raw was Cena vs Big Show for the 800th time with John Laurinitis - that did much better than Punk now!) and none of those ratings are even straight touching this Punk era.

You can even throw in the the 3 hour excuse...Which to me is the dumbest of all. We have been programmed since the mid 90s that the end of Raw is the climax of the show, where everything happens. Austin-Rock confrontations, DX shyt, hell even the modern era now with Nexus 2 years ago. Now, people aren't watching that anymore. How can the overrun of Raw gain only like 250,000 viewers from a Damian Sandow vs like Zack Ryder match? I mean are you joking?

These people are on here are dumb as fukk with their smug smilies like "Punk gained the most viewers" of course he did idiots. It's the overrun of RAW, we have been programmed to watch that. But interest is waning and leaving QUICKLY. No one is saying that NO ONE is watching Punk or interested in him. They are. It's just MILLIONS AND MILLIONS less people than a year ago interested and if the Rock didn't show up soon, or Cena doesn't push himself in the main event scene, wrestling will be dead.

The 03 era was STILL head above heels more entertaining as a whole than this. Also keep into consideration how many of the viewers were still the same viewers from the attitude era back then. All of those attitude era converts, a good chunk were still tuned into the shows..most grew out of it though because it didn't rival that. It's not as if everyone just turned off and stopped watching wrestling. It still had that slight essence from the attitude era, just the stench of it. People get it confused, the early to mid 2000's were still pretty raunchy..go peep back and look at some of the stuff John Cena was allowed to say in his "freestyles". That would easily get somebody fired in today's show... *cough* A.W anyone?

Bottom line is, the E could have ran with the Punk walking out thing when he did the whole pipe bomb thing. In the past, that would have been extended..and it would have been interesting. Today? It doesn't matter who you plug in, even the Rock would be involved in meaningless fly by night bullsh1t.

If the Rock was on this past Monday's show for 10 minutes, do you honestly think it would spike ratings up that much? Who would he be feuding with? What would he magically say to change the rest of the show? What would he magically say to even make his segment entertaining. Because sooner or later, that disparity will show itself. You can only have Rock feud with CM Punk for so long...eventually he would have to work with others.. the rest of the show would remain garbage, and even his segments would become stale...because it would be over produced, over scripted trash. I love the rock, yet believe me, I wouldn't have tuned in this past week if I knew he was on..why? Because the rest of the product is trash. It has never been just about one guy. Guys like Rock, Austin, Hogan are LEGENDS, beyond legends.. yet while they were at the top, the shows were also being produced properly by people who were understood wrestling psychology. Nobody is going to sit on their hands for 2 hours and 40 minutes just to wait to watch one guy, never, and especially not in this internet fast paced age. The rest of the show doesn't even hook anyone in anymore to want to watch the last 10 minutes, even if that last guy is jesus himself.

All we are seeing now is a downward spiral, the hardcore fans like myself..people who were hoping that things as a whole would change have tuned out. Only the insane remain.

 

[The Great One]

If the Rock was on this past Monday's show for 10 minutes, do you honestly think it would spike ratings up that much? .

Yes without question, possibly a full point, I would bet some of my friend's businesses on it.

And I was tired of the Rock's whole act years ago. I would actually hope he doesn't even interact with Punk. Because everything Punk is involved in or touches turns to utter shyt. Let him beat Punk, get the title and start interacting with people who matter: Cena, Bryan, hell even Orton, or Sheamus.

 

[Red Omega]

Yes without question, possibly a full point, I would bet some of my friend's businesses on it.

And I was tired of the Rock's whole act years ago. I would actually hope he doesn't even interact with Punk. Because everything Punk is involved in or touches turns to utter shyt. Let him beat Punk, get the title and start interacting with people who matter: Cena, Bryan, hell even Orton, or Sheamus.

 

[The Great One]

You know I gotta take my shots to you know who when I mention the Rock

 

[KingOFKings]

Yes without question, possibly a full point, I would bet some of my friend's businesses on it.

And I was tired of the Rock's whole act years ago. I would actually hope he doesn't even interact with Punk. Because everything Punk is involved in or touches turns to utter shyt. Let him beat Punk, get the title and start interacting with people who matter: Cena, Bryan, hell even Orton, or Sheamus.

You can't be serious..

Ok, even if you believe that to be true. You're looking to mask the symptoms, and not the actual cause of the disease itself.

 

[The Great One]

You can't be serious..

Ok, even if you believe that to be true. You're looking to mask the symptoms, and not the actual cause of the disease itself.

Punk is the disease to me. Take the belt off of him, move it to someone else and stop writing story lines that revolve around his inept, boring life and move on.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Punk is the disease to me. Take the belt off of him, move it to someone else and stop writing story lines that revolve around his inept, boring life and move on.

But advocate more screen time for RKO, who's been coasting for the past 3 years?

If he turned into serial killer Orton against Rock that'd be cool but

 

[The Great One]

If he turned into serial killer Orton against Rock that'd be cool but

What's better Serial Killer Orton vs Rock or this Punk vs Rock?

I choose Orton, and rather easily.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

What's better Serial Killer Orton vs Rock or this Punk vs Rock?

I choose Orton, and rather easily.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

What's better Serial Killer Orton vs Rock or this Punk vs Rock?

I choose Orton, and rather easily.

Punk's earned it after being top dog for so long and consistent but I'm not looking forward to all of the Dwayne name drops.

I'd be a lying like a bytch if I said the return of Serial Killer Orton wouldn't be ill.

But I'd be just as when he gets popped for roids in the middle of the program

 

[PTBG]

-The show opened to a 2.57, which is really nothing special. Any growth at that point would be expected, and sure enough The Shield attacking Team Hell No gained 126,000 viewers. That's also the segment with the AJ Lee vs. Tamina Snuka match.

-Here's an interesting note on what came next. CM Punk and Paul Heyman gained 24,000 viewers during their interview but once The Miz came out and started doing his schtick, the show lost 214,000 viewers. So I'm not the only one who finds him nearly unbearable.

-The main event of the first hour bleeding over into the second, which should see a lot of growth, gained only 138,000 viewers. That's with John Cena and Sheamus teaming up against Big Show and Dolph Ziggler. Bad news for two of the top programs on Raw and SmackDown right now.

-Damien Sandow vs. Santino Marella lost 226,000 viewers, which sucks but is to be expected for what they were doing, I suppose.

-Alberto Del Rio vs. Sin Cara lost 126,000 viewers.

-Vince McMahon's return to goad Vickie Guerrero into adding matches and stipulations to matches gained 493,000 viewers, the highest rated point of the show not including the overrun. Even after all these years, Vince is still a draw, even if he's not at the level he once was.

-Randy Orton vs. Brad Maddox lost 167,000 viewers. That includes The Shield attacking Orton and leaving him laying.

-The Raw Active four-way U.S. championship match between Kofi Kingston, R-Truth, Wade Barrett, and Antonio Cesaro lost 169,000 viewers.

-Finally, the main event segment with CM Punk taking a lie detector test before The Shield attacked and Kane, Daniel Bryan, and Ryback all got involved gained 509,000 viewers.

Miz=

 

[Brad Piff]

if the show was still 2 hours then some of the arguments would hold more weight

at the end of the day the ratings have dipped because of the move to 3 hours which was expected

 

[Versa]

You think people are checking for a lie detector test The Shield was obviously going to interrupt when my nikka RG3 was getting ready to shyt on The Giants?

Also, it just hit me. I think they're gonna set up Miz/Kane/D Bry vs The Shield at TLC.