RAW 12/23/19 sets record non-holiday low in viewership

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It's the match set-up. You have Ricochet and Humberto Carrillo on the ring. One is the epitome of flippy shyt (good and bad) and the other is a luchador. The match should be ten minutes of straight piff, both dudes out there showing why they're the best......



....... but what are they doing for half the match? Rest holds.

Nothing takes a crowd out of a match faster than nothing actually happening. Every other wrestling company in the world would tell those guys to go do their thing, but WWE with its over-producing and shyt road agents force them into that shytty style.

I've always felt bad for people who actually go to TV shows because the matches are usually trash.

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The real issue is the roster completely sucks from top to bottom. No characters, no personality. It's a sad day when the WWE known for over the top outlandish characters and storylines is now full of indy nerds just happy to be there. And the shows themselves are too clean, there's no edge or direction. Paint by the numbers bullshyt. This women's revolution nonsense is so hokey and lame as well. It all falls on Triple H and Stephanie. The product has been shyt since 05 but there accession to prominence accelerated the decline in quality.
 

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they did try to give people what they want though

Kofi won the title at WM
Seth won the title at WM (back when people liked him)
Becky won the Rumble and the title at WM (back when people liked her)
Fiend won the title
Roman wasn't in the title picture at all
Brock had more dates
Sasha and Bayley both turned heel
different stars got TV time and featured more (Mustafa, Ali, Gable, Buddy, Cedric, Rowan, Andrade etc)

they at least tried to service the fans somewhat :manny:

Exactly, and as I said, that has paid off big time :troll:
 

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The sort of people that's aimed at ARE still watching though. :skip: The biggest critics will be watching until the end.

The network number dropped under a million, that’s a glaring sign. The other metric I pay attention to with hardcore fans is what are they gonna do for Wrestlemania week. We’ll see
 

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they did try to give people what they want though

Kofi won the title at WM
Seth won the title at WM (back when people liked him)
Becky won the Rumble and the title at WM (back when people liked her)
Fiend won the title
Roman wasn't in the title picture at all
Brock had more dates
Sasha and Bayley both turned heel
different stars got TV time and featured more (Mustafa, Ali, Gable, Buddy, Cedric, Rowan, Andrade etc)

they at least tried to service the fans somewhat :manny:

More than half of these they half assed. Becky and Sasha turned heel, but have mostly gotten their asses kicked. Bray won the title at a PPV no one watched, instead of the previous PPV when the fans were asking for it (didn’t the crowd completely crap on the ending?). I can’t say much about the newer guys getting pushed, but all I know is months ago Cedric and Ricochet were having standout matches getting a rub from AJ Styles, and then I saw a graphic on twitter saying they were facing each other on Main Event, and based on reading some Raw results, there’s no way a match like that should’ve been left off a 3 hour show when you’re dedicating an enormous amount of TV time to the Lana/Lashley/Rusev storyline.
 

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Holy shyt, the E did their version of Super Jr. Flippy shyt. :dead:

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Of course Rico is in both. :heh:
He's so fukking embarrassing. This is not the direction WWE should be going in. Him and his friends are steadily ruining WWE single handedly with all of that meaningless flippy floppy crap. fukkery.
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So depressing to be a wrestling fan in 2019 lol. the fans and the wrestlers are all lames. Not including me tho :ufdup:
 

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It was early on in the show I think?

It was this breh with the long hair. I don't know his name (and don't correct me and tell me his name either I'll never ever watch a wrestler like him:mjlol:)
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It was so cringy. I'm sure that's the moment everyone said, "what's this bullshyt?" and turned it off at the same time.:mjlol:
You're definitely lying and making shyt up. You didn't watch shyt. Aleister Black isn't even on Raw.
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You're definitely lying and making shyt up. You didn't watch shyt. Aleister Black isn't even on Raw.
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Why are you always trying to hate on me, man. What's your problem? It's just wrestling. Is it that much of a big deal to you?:mjtf:

It might have been TLC that just went by, my bad. They didn't air far from each other so I thought it was the same episode looking back. Is that a crime too?




I said I don't know his name just on what he looked like, you fukking sad weirdo. Do you think everyone should know everything just because it's common knowledge to *you and *you only?:comeon:

I'm not a super fan. Except WM I skim thru all PPVs and Raw in about 20-30 seconds to see if Stone Cold or someone else from the Attitude Era showed up. I might watch a women's match here and there because they're the only ones trying to perform properly now but other that that I'll just turn it off.


Get your shyt together, breh.:mjtf:
 

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Why are you always trying to hate on me, man. What's your problem? It's just wrestling. Is it that much of a big deal to you?:mjtf:

It might have been TLC that just went by, my bad. They didn't air far from each other so I thought it was the same episode looking back. Is that a crime too?




I said I don't know his name just on what he looked like, you fukking sad weirdo. Do you think everyone should know everything just because it's common knowledge to *you and *you only?:comeon:

I'm not a super fan. Except WM I skim thru all PPVs and Raw in about 20-30 seconds to see if Stone Cold or someone else from the Attitude Era showed up. I might watch a women's match here and there because they're the only ones trying to perform properly now but other that that I'll just turn it off.


Get your shyt together, breh.:mjtf:
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