"Rappers rap about killing other Black men and no one bats an eye..."

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Why? It's just wordplay.

Take nikka out and replace it with "black dude" still just bars for Eminem and MGK?

I didn’t say I liked those “killing nikkas like Nazi bars.” I find them c00ntastic and deplorable. I just don’t by into the narrative you’re trying to create based on them.

 

[Carlton Banks]

Same thing happened again after the Don Imus situation where he called black women nappy headed hoes and said rappers say it all the time. After the fallout, there was a big question about the toxicity of hip hop, and I believe it was on Oprah again, or at least being moderated by Oprah, there were all these Hip Hop heads, including Russ Simmons, trying to defend rapper’s “creative” ability to use nappy headed hoes, nikka, and whatever other derogatory term in their music. At that point, I realized that we were letting men who were in a state of perpetual immaturity usher in the degradation and decline of black pride and the black community. Like a disease that we have allowed to fester. It was completely awful to watch.

 

[Matt504]

Y'all entertaining somebody arguing that these rappers aren't rapping about killing Black people solely because they're Black but rather because they just so happen to be Black as if the outcome is any different.



This is the same argument cop apologists use to deflect from racial profiling. "The people in those communities just so happen to be Black so how is race a factor."

 

[xXOGLEGENDXx]

I didn’t say I liked those “killing nikkas like Nazi bars.” I find them c00ntastic and deplorable. I just don’t by into the narrative you’re trying to create based on them.

Never said you liked them. You said it basically has no effect and that it's just wordplay. Something about compromising 0.000000000001% of rap.

So if that is the case, I need to know if a white rapper raps about killing black men like Nazis in a bar, is that just wordplay with no effect? I need you to clarify please sir

 

[Originalman]

Ice-t always had a message in his music.
the ending in most of his tales ended with
jail or death.

This

 

[Wild self]

Its true.

DaBaby recent controversy is hard proof that going anything other than black men will get you roasted

 

[Geordi]

It’s s disingenuous argument cause never in be history of rap has there been ever been a song about killing Black people.

There’s been songs that tell both fictional and truth-based stories about killing of people who happen to be Black.

But nobody’s every made a song on some KKK rap shyt like “I kill Black people cause they’re Black.”

Biggie said he's been robbing people since the slave ships with the same clip

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Biggie said he's been robbing people since the slave ships with the same clip

Was he robbing them because they’re Black or cause he’s a poor petty criminal who wants to rob someone and the closest easiest vic was Black?

 

[Originalman]

Same thing happened again after the Don Imus situation where he called black women nappy headed hoes and said rappers say it all the time. After the fallout, there was a big question about the toxicity of hip hop, and I believe it was on Oprah again, or at least being moderated by Oprah, there were all these Hip Hop heads, including Russ Simmons, trying to defend rapper’s “creative” ability to use nappy headed hoes, nikka, and whatever other derogatory term in their music. At that point, I realized that we were letting men who were in a state of perpetual immaturity usher in the degradation and decline of black pride and the black community. Like a disease that we have allowed to fester. It was completely awful to watch.

Yeah and oprah and the rest did the same thing when Kramer said the N-word. Then the focus went to black comedians and rappers using the word and that was why Kramer used it. After the Kramer incident Paul Mooney even took the N-word out of his acts.

Now I don't use the N-Word or call sistas hoes or bytches. But I never liked that media bull shyt how every time a white person fukks up it turns into a conversation of how black folks need to do better. Its bull shyt and disengenus.

We just went through this shyt when the white boy Daryl Morey went on twitter when his monkey ass called out China. Within seconds all the dumb asses in the media and 2 brain cell having fukking idiots on social media flipped the white boy comments. Into what lebron and all the black stars in the NBA got to say cause they need to care about this issue.

So nah fukk that shyt about black folks need to have a discussion whenever white folks fukk up. They ain't never asked our permission to say or do what they want and black folks certainly ain't influencing their bad behavior towards us or anyone else.

Cause if that were the case black folks would have been still chilling in africa instead of being sent here in chains.

 

[R=G]

This is such a disingenuous statement. Gangsta rap started in the late 80's / early 90's and people like C Deloris Tucker, Tipper Gore, Oprah, and others all spoke out against it. Back when it was fresh and new. They tried to nip it in the bud early but folks weren't having it.

I was recently watching this episode of Oprah with Ice T and all the Juelzing he does to try and justify the bs in his music was

There's 4 parts to the video but I'm sharing this since it gets right to the point



If you watch the rest though you'll see how hard people fought for this, even the white label execs since it was making them the most money.



At the 0:48 mark this sista is so passionate about keeping the content alive. You would've thought she was at church preaching. This is after another sista says that she has 2 brothers and sees the changes in behavior and attitude the music has done to them.

And mind you, this is back when dudes like Eazy E and Ice T weren't actually that good at rapping and we're pretty much just talking over beats and saying fukked up shyt. No type of art or skill to it.

No music changed her brothers..they were just followers.

 

[R=G]

This song went into alot of stereotypes..I don't recall any whining though.....hmmmm

 

[Cat piss martini]

They did. Just not Eazy or Ice T imo

The album Rhyme Pays is a classic.
To say ICE-T didnt have rhyme skills is crazy.

 

[Damnshow]

More like facts only. Y’all don’t use logic. DaBaby is getting heat because people get he made comments that were disparaging toward a group of people (gays).

His comments made being gay the thing that was disparaged. Street rap or drill rap does not disparage Black people on the basis of them being Black. It promotes violence, murder and mayhem, but not racially targeted violence, murder and mayhem. That’s why any attempted analogy is flimsy. Not that hard.

You are very confusing. Obviously no one would make that completely obvious music arranging people to literally kill black folks because of the skin color. That's an act of terrorism that would get you into trouble immediately. You can't just make a music telling people to shoot this or that person, if that's what you are arguing about lol


Record labels are some of the biggest private prison investors and for about 30 years gangsta rap has been one of the most popular choices in mainstream music. It sells poison to every poor black neighborhood telling people (who may need guidance in their life) that they can throw regular day jobs out the window and just sell drugs, rob people, shoot somebody, be ignorant, respect nobody and be rich and tough like these stupid ass gangsta rappers with chains and rented cars all over their music videos. "fukk being a lawyer, a scientist, the world hates me so Imma rob people, sell drugs and be stuck in the hood". That's the message very rich people that own record labels inject into mainstream hip hop while conscious rap has very little popularity other than a few rappers. They can be subtle in achieving goals.

Every neighborhood has hard working people, but the street hip hop sells you ideology that the worst part of the neighborhood is something to aspire...which helps crime rates stay high, prisons filling up with new people and neighborhoods staying poor and therefore depending on political parties and their fake promises over and over again.

 

[1LurkerChick9]

Was he robbing them because they’re Black or cause he’s a poor petty criminal who wants to rob someone and the closest easiest vic was Black?

Breh,
You do know black folks can be agents of white supremacy too,right?
Black people can hate and hence devalue black life just like white people can.
How many more lyrics do people need to post for you to get it?

 

[invalid]

It’s s disingenuous argument cause never in be history of rap has there been ever been a song about killing Black people.

There’s been songs that tell both fictional and truth-based stories about killing of people who happen to be Black.

But nobody’s every made a song on some KKK rap shyt like “I kill Black people cause they’re Black.”

The first two sentences, you’re saying the same thing, even though you think in your head you are making a distinction, you’re not.

The third sentence I guess is the point that you’re making.

In the end, it doesn’t matter.

In every thread about DaBaby, posters have tried to juelz their way out of admitting that his statements were homophobic or could be perceived as homophobic. Because he didn’t mention ‘gay’ he couldn’t be talking about gays...yadda, yadda. Doesn’t matter. What demographic predominately gets HIV. Which demographic of males sukk dikk. That’s the target.

To your point, it doesn’t matter the intent of the murders. Which demographic is most affected by these inner city killings? That’s the target.

It’s like the issue with voter restrictions and gerrymandering. Yeah, some white people may get caught up in these issues. But which demographic is most affected by this sort of legislation? That’s the target.

And yes, I do think there is an element of ‘racialness’ in inner city black on black crime even though folks will try to deny it.