Rap Sh!t star Aida Osman was coerced out of coochie by "Wild N Out" star, she was only 22 yrs old!

[FTBS]

Funny story, when I was a teen in high school our sex ed teacher ran a test on all the boys. She asked us "have you ever raped a woman before." Everyone said hell no. She asked "have you ever pressured a woman to have sex with you after she said no."

It got quiet. One guy admitted he did but she was cool with it. Teacher made it very clear that that is also rape. No means no, and any further action whatsoever to get her to have sex, even if she ultimately agrees, is rape.

Everyone was floored and silent. Some argued with her a bit. But that was the day I realized why sex ed is important and needs to be in school. I know I took the lesson, and I think a lot of fellas changed that day. If I ever ask a girl I been seeing for sex and she says no, that's the end of the story.

That aint rape. I get her point and its morally and legally best to stop when she says no. Guys should abide by that for their protection. But it still aint rape and I take issue with people trying to remove all responsibility from the young lady and demonize persistence/good game from dudes.

You say "no" and GTFO. If he refuses to let you leave thats illegal. If he keeps touching you against your will thats illegal. If he tries and you say "no" he does a good sell job and you decide to do it (minus duress) that's consensual.

Agreeing to something is agreeing to something. Thats like if someone tries to sell me something and I say "no". If they keep going and I eventually agree to buy it I gotta pay for that shyt.

 

[FTBS]

She may have agreed to sleep with you to avoid being raped. In her view.

And thats where we get into the danger zone. I think Aziz Ansari had a situation along those lines. Girl wasnt comfortable but went along with the shyt then tried to #Me Too him after the fact IIRC. Its not worth it as a guy to proceed if there is the slightest hint of resistance on her part. nikka like me out the door at the slightest hint of her not being into it. Its on both parties to communicate clearly and respect each other. But as a guy you are the one that can get caught up so you gotta err on the side of caution.

 

[lord canon]

if women werent so naive the single mother rate would be lower
game is game

 

[Luke Cage]

coffee at 3am?

 

[Payday23]

Coerced out of coochie.

Zero accountability

 

[HabitualChiller]

I'm not calling anyone a rapist. We should be more careful in our sexual endeavors.

People also need to start taking accountability for their actions instead of casting blame on someone for something that they agreed to do.

The fact that this is a thread is absolutely ridiculous.

The fact that she's trying to say that a guy trying to come over for coffee at 3 AM is sexual coercion is asinine. That's a man that is TRYING to get some ass in a way that can't even yet be called coercion (because we don't even know the full story. Asking to come in for "coffee" is a common euphemism for "I want to smash", but that's not coercion. It's a slick way to set the scene for POTENTIALLY getting some ass).

nikkas throw out words without even knowing the definition.

 

[Will Ross]

Many women claim rape when its regret.

 

[HabitualChiller]

men arent being scum bags, they are programmed to hunt. when he tried you said no and then he left. if he were your crush, you may have let him in. but that man wont know unless he tries.

This also happens because a lot of women are subtle with expressing their feelings about men.

They'll stare across the room, and not outright say "I'm attracted to you", so a lot of men will shoot their shot on women that don't want them because they THOUGHT she was feeling him.

A lot of this shyt boils down to a simple miscommunication because both sexes [generally speaking] have differing ways of putting themselves out there.

 

[Jaguar93]

Bruhs stay safe out here because it won’t be long before. They start saying that the smell of your cologne. “Seduced them out of coochie” and dumbasses then labeling you a rapist.

 

[Still Benefited]

This is valid and important. A lot of chicks are naive. I think the thing that guys struggle with when it comes to accepting/understanding this is we dont get to be naive. If a guy is innocent and trusting he is gonna catch hell pretty early on (unless he is a great athlete). Guys are gonna push him around and take advantage of him. And girls arent gonna give him the time of day and those that do are gonna play him. It get real for us early .

You present a persepective most guys arent privy to. Females arent privy to the lack of guile, ignorance, awkwardness, insecurity, doubt, second guessing, trial and error etc that guys go through when it comes to approaching. "Is she feeling me or she just being friendly?" "Do I make a move? Do I not?" So to label everything that isnt smooth or that you arent comfortable with as coercion or predatory is just as wrong and dangerous as assuming all chicks "know what it is". It can be even more damaging actually because only a shytty sociopath of a dude is gonna violate a woman's boundaries. Whereas a perfectly decent woman can destroy a man's reputation throwing such words around based on her ignorance and feelings rather than what actually occurred.

I agree that its up to families to school young women. Society has a job too. We are teaching young men to respect boundaries...to get consent. We should be teaching young women how to set boundaries and helping them to understand their power and responsibility when it comes to consent. We should be teaching the difference between a guy shooting his shot, even if its awkward or unskilled or even uncomfortable and a guy trying to harm you.

Perfectly said


Age doesnt neccessarily determine how naive someone is. Because its teenage girls who are more experienced in matters of the opposite sex than 25 year olds. But i think we give young girls the benefit of the doubt that they can be naive. Whereas like you said,young boys are expected to understand body language,be aware,understand akward energy and social cues. Your doing a disservice if you arent teaching the young men in youe family to have this awareness in this climate though. Because although women are more naive imo,more are being taught to pretend to play naive at the same time.



Also being naive doesnt work the way people are acting like it does. Being naive works in stages in reality.


A woman could have a guy walk her to her dorm room which was an example here. He ask to use her bathroom,and is doing the pee pee dance. In a millisecond letting him use the bathroom isnt illogical. But then he comes out the bathroom and says "You wanna watch some Netflix?"


At this point in hindsight its easy to say she was goofy,and im sure she herself feels naive. But its not fair to continue through these stages and continue to consider yourself naive and a victim. If you sit on the bed with him and watch netflix you cant say "damn im naive",then if he starts taking your clothes off after making you giggle,and you never tell him you dont want to, you cant say "damn im naive".


I think from the point he sat on your bed,invited himself to stay,realized you shouldnt have let him in? The accountability clock has to start ticking. Dont keep doing stupid shyt and blaming being naive. Naive and dumb are cousins,but not the same.

 

[HabitualChiller]

As a black woman who has an adult male child and elementary aged male child. Y’all better get with the times. It ain’t about how y’all feel it’s about how she feels. A chick tell you she not interested, drop it. Ive been sexually harassed, begged, and physically assaulted (touching without permission). It wasn’t a big deal back then and even to this day, I’ll let shyt go (not being touched cuz I’m married)because that’s what it was when I came into adulthood. These younger women arent with that and yall can complain all y’all want but unless you wanna end up getting sued/fired/arrested I suggest yall get in line or get married.

Bet. I'll just stack my money and do shyt dolo. If a woman talks to me without my consent, I'm reporting her to the authorities.

I'm joking, but that's what it's coming to unless you're good-looking lol.

 

[Peter Popoff]

Also...lowkey this bıtch fine af. Mia ugly though.

 

[Neuromancer]

When a woman says no bounce. Regardless to whether she's being coy or not. fukk it.

 

[mag357]

When a woman says no bounce. Regardless to whether she's being coy or not. fukk it.

I guess y'all not paying attention.
These chix are saying "yes" or consenting with their actions which is basically how all sex happens.

In then later they saying some shyt like they were scared or coereced.

Nothing about them saying "NO"

 

[Neuromancer]

I guess y'all not paying attention.
These chix are saying "yes" or consenting with their actions which is basically how all sex happens.

In then later they saying some shyt like they were scared or coereced.

Nothing about them saying "NO"

You right I wasn't paying attention.