Rap Music Is So Terrible Now

[SuburbanPimp]

I think mainstream rap is terrible and now worse than its ever been. If its not a song about Clubbin, stuntin or for the females its gets no play. That haven't played a song like Daughters one time on the radio out here.

Overall though I don't think its that bad. There are still artist sout there like Kendrick Lamar, Big KRIT, J.Cole, Nas if you looking for a message so its not like there isn't good music still being made. You just have to fight through the bullshyt to make your way to it

 

[Theabbot]

I was listening to the J Cole CD on the way to work this morning. It was pretty good!

 

[CrimsonTider]

Sig check

 

[mortuus est]

I was listening to some of those 'The Rub: history of hip-hop' collections a couple days ago. Each mix covers the top tracks released during a particular year. I started on 1979 and made my way to the present. Things were on a positively evolving pace up until about 2005ish. That's when shyt started going down hill in a hurry IMO.
Needless to say I've deleted the years 2005-2011.
I hate all that whiney shyt. nikkas sound gay as fukk! I don't know who started that trend, Kanye or Wayne. Sounding like Twan from In Living Color and shyt.

>>>>>>>>

those mixes are tight, i stopped at 05/06 like cot damn wtf

92/93>>>>>>

 

[Dack]

I liked it better when rappers wuz gettin jerked by labels and didn't know shyt about the business....I hate to say that but from a musical standpoint I mean every word of it...these nikkas come in the game talkin bout they "brand" and trying to appea to different demographics to expand they "brand"...fuk ya brand nikka,that's all I need to hear to not fuk wit a nikka...that aesop rocky nikka didn't even wanna call himself a hiphop artist but wanted to say he's a "overall artist" fuk outta here wack azz nikka,disgrace to name Rakim ,Ra would be ashamed..

THAT nikka A fakkit BREH.

 

[Hussein Fonzarelli]

The line between legitimate artistry and parody is completely blurred at this point.

truth

 

[Insensitive]

Then that's a dumb ass way of thinking. I am an admitted old head, but I don't dislike someone just because they are new. I grew up during the age when talent mattered. Lyrical and/or the art of MCing.

Well talent still matters, I don't know where that stopped.
A lot of Dope DUDES are getting sales AND props all over the internet.
This is Hip Hop though so we gotta CONSTANTLY focus on the negative.

We don't talk about :
Tito Lopez
J. Cole
Lupe Fiasco
Blu
Fashawn
Hopsin
Dizzy Wright
Tiron
Wale (people hate him here)
Tonedeff
Kendrick Lamar
K'naan
Scienze

And more there are more I can pull up that are talented lyricists
and if they aren't G Rap reincarnated they're definitely saying something.
This is why I assume most people who say they "Love Hip Hop" or some other sh1t like that probably don't love it THAT MUCH because if they did, they wouldn't constantly moan about it but instead talk about dope sh1t.

I also think that "Talent mattered" Sh1t is blatantly false.
We've clearly got dudes from the past 30 years (Hip Hop or not) that have
excelled in music while being utterly average or even worse terrible in retrospect.
People often only care about HOW IT SOUNDS not necessarily how skilled the person is or what they're saying.

So I can't help but use that same measurement when I listen to artists today. If the person that I am listening too doesn't have any real talent, then they are wack to me. Period. It just so happens that MOST of what I hear from today's popular hip-hop artists falls into that catergory. Not because it's new, but because it's just wack. People seem to be willing to accept some wakness today. Especially when you pair it up with a nice beat, or catchy hook. It wasn't like that years ago.

Several records (some even highly regarded) disagree with you.

And that's fine if YOU DON'T hate artists simply because they're new but there are people on this very forum who feel that way, some of them revered for their historical knowledge and supposed love of Hip Hop.
Some of these posters even go as far as sh1tting on cats like Lupe or Kendrick then turning around and d1ckriding Gucci and Chief Keef.

People would be like get that shyt outta here son!
You needed talent before, all you need now is a decent hook and you're on. The companys will force that shyt down our throats. And it usually has no substantial lyrical content either(which once again was how you used to be judged in hip-hop). [Had I not grown up in a talent based era, my views would be totally different. But I didn't, so they aren't.

Reality simply does not work like that though.
There are literally hundreds of thousands of Waka Flocka/Lil B/Gucci/Juicy
J clones running around and yet only a small percentage manage to get on.
Even then look at how terrible album sales are in 2012 and how the labels scramble to sign acts.
They can't force sh1t on anyone and reality is showing that.
If Labels had THAT MUCH power, things would certainly be as bleak as
people try to say it is.

Don't get me wrong, I try to wade through all the busllshyt to get to the trully talented artists of the current era, but these days that search is getting more and more difficult as everyone is buying into this dumb it down movement.
fukking corporate America has fukked hip-hop and is fukking our youths without them even realizing it. We used to love her, but now we got her on the corner strung the fukk out.

IF you have difficulty finding Hip Hop you like it's one of two things breh
1. You must still listen to radio
or
2. You just don't like Hip Hop anymore

And that's fine if you USED TO love her, we just don't need you or anyone else on here typing up sob stories and not actively trying to big up dope rappers.

I personally STILL LOVE Hip Hop and I'll continue to enjoy it for as long as I can.
With that said don't plan on arguing this really, so don't expect a long drawn out, post for post discussion.

 

[Fredrick Thuglas]

I take it you haven't been listening to the Krispey Kreme leaks.

Hip Hop is being revived

fixed

 

[macadomusic]

The fact that you are on the internet and can't find good hip hop says a lot about you bro. Wtf u be listenin too

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

Speak for yourself. Rap music is awesome right now. The days of everyone being a studio gangster are over. Rappers are focusing on their music instead of their image.

 

[the cac mamba]

Speak for yourself. Rap music is awesome right now. The days of everyone being a studio gangster are over. Rappers are focusing on their music instead of their image.

as opposed to what? weed-smoking cornballs and hipster clowns

rap was better when street cred was a factor

 

[Turbulent]

I bet there was some ghetto ass forum in 1989 that had this exact same post.

on the old website, someone made a thread posting posts from old messageboards i remember post going back to 93 (lol didn't even know regular people had the internet back then). anyway it was basically the same shyt people are saying today.

 

[bouncy]

To me rap is just regular meaning it isn't ultra wack like some of the old school stuff, when it was it was WACK. Now if it's wack it just sounds like some other shyt and generic. Most of the songs are good and sound alike and unless you know the rappers story and look you would think it's someone else because there is really nothing special about them or their musical production. The only rapper who I can truly say is making a new thing is Kendric because he plays with his flows and give me the vibe he is really into his music and it shows. Joey Badass is good too but he is really just remaking and old sound not anything new but it's still good.

What I miss is the new sounds that came out every few years which kept rap being the shyt. People played with the music now it's just make a simple beat and that's it but I'm starting to think that maybe the producers and rappers just aren't real musicians because when you think about it, the reason why we liked the music back then was because the music was sampled by R&B, jazz and rock&roll players who LOVED making music, getting fukked up and sexing, NOT having the new benz, wearing gucci, and looking like a CEO. I think once the rappers left the Hip Hop world meaning the people who actually read books, magazines, studied the world and loved wordplay rap has been in a world of dementia and is letting corporations tell them this is what they are about and it is showing because everything that makes a person a rapper is everything BUT their skills. The same has been done to the DJ and the producer. I think the only way it's going to change is when a producer comes and directs an artist into being creative with the music and he is as well and change the sound of hip hop music and go to the underground college radio stations and clubs and have a number of artist he produces for and then get everyone copying him. The way it is going now is everyone is looking towards the mainstream and doing nothing new really, they are hot because they are new which is not the same thing. This is really the same with the "underground" also just on a smaller scale and is why most artist don't even last the 5 years that is normal for rap artist.

Complaing about it just makes people call you a hater or old school so it's no need to really say anything because in their hearts if they listened to old music and today's they know it isn't even a comparison but they feel they have to defend the music of today because it's like you're dissing them. If you just play the good shyt they will come around eventually because someone in their peer group will notice and that person will find a way to help them see the wackness that's around, that's how most people come around to the truth.

 

[bouncy]

on the old website, someone made a thread posting posts from old messageboards i remember post going back to 93 (lol didn't even know regular people had the internet back then). anyway it was basically the same shyt people are saying today.

But they were complaining about the messages in the raps and we can see they were right because a lot of stuff has gone crazy with what rappers are talking about. I can't even let my niece listen to a lot of songs because they are so blunt and just straight up foul whereas before I could play a song with my mother in the room and even if it had a few curses it had a message that taught me something and she couldn't really diss the song. What message are you hearing today that helps lift you up as a man and want to go out into this cold world and hold your head up?. You can't even find a song without curses in them. I remember LL Cool J put out the ALBUM "Mama said Knock you out" and it had NO curses in it and was THE shyt. You can't find a SONG without curses and they still don't come close to that album.

I saw a video with Wise intelligent explaining this and what he stated was true, at least for me, because once I heard rappers say certain things I wanted to learn what they were talking about and it helped uplift my self esteem and had me saying "I'm not doing that" or "that ain't me" when tv was on some bullshyt about blacks or my latin brothers and sisters. People like to downplay music effecting your behavior but I seen it uplift self esteem and have people do dumb shyt. It wasn't the cause but it did influence them which plays a part and shouldn't be downplayed.

Wise Intelligent: Connecting Hip Hop, culture and the struggle

 

[jevity]

To me, the real core of the issue is, how the level of the desired
opulence and fortune (both perceived,imagined and factual) have
skyrocketed during the past years,now to the point where we
almost have, not just a sub-genre, but an actual hub-genre,
classified as "luxury rap".

I'm admitting that crazy riches, and displaying them overtly,
have always been an integral part of the music.
We all agree on that. Both in the content of the lyrics and the
details of the visual presentation. However, the shift that has
occurred from gold chains and beemers, to customized
corporate-style jets,limited edition super-cars and Fortune Top 500
(aspirational) imagery is downright staggering.

Acting alone this ongoing escalation of flossing does not pose
any significant "threat" to the evolution of the art form,
but the unhealthy side effect,and difference from the bravado
of the earlier "skools", is that you no longer need to flaunt an
impressive skill-set to substantiate the constant hyperbolic boasting.
Today the boasting itself has been given a global platform
from which it convincingly and almost unopposed dominates
the commercial markets. This unfortunate direction is steering
us towards two culturally detrimental destinations
(regarding worldwide mainstream exposure).

1. Artists with no other focus than boasting (ego,manhood,wealth,prowess)
will continue to prove themselves as the most viable commodities
on the market. The acceptance of this consequence will gradually push
other categories of artists into commercial obscurity.

2. Artists who put emphasis on other aspects of emceein than boasting,
will grow tired of attempting to sell their creative and diversified brands
to no avail, and subsequently end up re-focusing their energy on
streamlining their product in accordance with the demands
of the current status quo.

TLDR :

In short, regression, that's that shyt I don't like.

Insert .gif of Ralph Wiggum rapping
into an unplugged, pink Fisher Price
mic with noticeable teeth-marks).

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