“Rap doesn’t influence anyone to commit crimes”

[UncleTomFord15]

I've said it multiple times, I grew up in a overall solidly middle class all black area in Brooklyn but there were still gangs and shootings, almost got killed myself a few times, etc. Rap definitely without question influences your thoughts and way you live as a black person.

 

[Pure Water]

Death rate for homicide in the U.S. 1950-2019 | Statista

In 2019, there were six deaths by homicide per 100,000 of the population in the United States, compared to 5.9 deaths by homicide in the previous year.

www.statista.com

What music was popular in the 70s and 80s that had the rate higher than it is today?

The fact of the matter is, parents don't want to take accountability for their children's actions. The #1 consumer of rap music today is white suburban kids. They're not killing each other at nearly the same rate that we are. Them white kids LOVE rap music, but they see it as what it is. Entertainment. And the same case for black kids that grow up in the same type of environment as those white suburban kids. This is a parental problem that's exacerbated by poverty and a lack of accountability by parents and children alike. This subject has been beaten into the ground, but to anyone here. These are the current countries with the highest murder rates:

1. El Salvador (61.7)
2. Honduras (41.0)
3. Venezuela (49.9)
4. United States Virgin Islands (49.3 [2012 data])
5. Jamaica (56.4)
6. Lesotho (43.6 [[2016 data]] per 100k people)
7. Belize (37.8)
8. Saint Vincent And The Grenadines (36.5 [2016 data])
9. Saint Kitts And Nevis (36.1 [2012 data])
10. South Africa (35.7)

Murder Rate by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

Besides the US what is the common denominator? Those countries are poor or have high levels of economic inequality. Even within the US the same applies to those who are doing the murders at a disproportionate scale.

 

[RaspberryFitted]

They act like the field of marketing doesn't exist for this purpose (persuading people)

To counter, they start juelzing about anecdotal experience. Dudes pull up statistics out that ass for every topic but all of a sudden their personal experience is enough

the focus should be to educate children/the impressionable on how these forms of entertainment are just that.. but we can’t even acknowledge a basic concept.

Politicans carefully select the soundtrack for their campaign trail for a reason

Most of them I’d assume invoke pride and honor in the country. let the TheColi tell it, it’s because the song sounded nice lmao.

 

[UncleTomFord15]

Nobody is selling drugs because their favorite rapper does it. They do it because they're environment doesn't offer much else.

Not even close to true, seen it with my own eyes

 

[Paper Boi]

Since this has been a hot topic on TheColi as of late, here’s a clip from No Malice from Clipse that I’ve never seen before regarding his take on the matter

Start at 0:30

as an artist yourself what do you think about it


and do you feel different about now as an older man than you did 15 years ago?

obviously your music wasn't 99% cocaine raps like Malice so it's probably a little different for you.

 

[Breh Obama]

Some of y’all really naive or dumb as fukk thinking people only sell drugs and carry guns out of necessity

 

[Juliano Soprano]

Blues doesn't influence anyone to drink hard liquor and Rock and Roll doesn't influence anybody to take drugs.

Maybe not but it’s great theme music for that shyt, same with some rap. Great theme music for that type of energy, it’s all about how you as the individual wants to use that energy…me personally, I use it in the gym, literally can lift more weight if the right track comes on. As much as I love hip hop, we can’t deny that rap has romanticized killing black men, wipe his nose sounds cool as fukk but it means to kill someone, spin da block another dope as slang term that romanticizes killing black men. I’m not even judging either, I’m a hip hop head but I’m also old enough to see now that this rap shyt is toxic af and the new shyt is no longer for me

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Nobody is selling drugs because their favorite rapper does it. They do it because they're environment doesn't offer much else.

Not a cording to Ralo

 

[Matt504]

Politicans carefully select the soundtrack for their campaign trail for a reason

To counter, they start juelzing about anecdotal experience. Dudes pull up statistics out that ass for every topic but all of a sudden their personal experience is enough

the focus should be to educate children/the impressionable on how these forms of entertainment are just that.. but we can’t even acknowledge a basic concept.

Most of them I’d assume invoke pride and honor in the country. let the TheColi tell it, it’s because the song sounded nice lmao.

If this thread was about a new Disney movie with a Black male transgender lead, the thread would be packed with people suggesting that it's an agenda to turn kids gay and there'd be virtually no pushback. While I don't believe a movie can turn a kid gay anymore than I believe listening to a song can make someone shoot anyone, it's interesting to see how people's position on influence will change depending on what the influence is.

 

[Nabs]

It's crazy how people don't understand how easy it is to influence the youth. Especially when the music is simplified, generic, and glorified. Juice Wrld told Future that his music inspired him to try lean. There's a whole generation of fiends who started sipping and popping pills because of Wayne, Future and similar artists.

 

[jilla82]

Nobody is selling drugs because their favorite rapper does it. They do it because they're environment doesn't offer much else.

Why dont people rap about rape and child molestation?
Would those subjects even be allowed to rapped about the same way they do drug dealing and murder?
(nobody can ever answer this)


if you live in the city you can get on the internet to learn anything...
...that "I dont have options" argument died 10+ years ago.

The average person does what their culture does...
...whats the hood culture?

 

[Matt504]

It's crazy how people don't understand how easy it is to influence the youth. Especially when the music is simplified, generic, and glorified. Juice Wrld told Future that his music inspired him to try lean. There's a whole generation of fiends who started sipping and popping pills because of Wayne, Future and similar artists.

And Future apologized too which means he understands what he's doing is wrong.

Juice WRLD on Calling Out Drake’s Baby Drama, Working With Future, and Kanye

“People can take it however they wanna take it, but I’m pretty sure Drake knows it’s a joke.”

www.vulture.com

 

[Uitomy]

Nobody is selling drugs because their favorite rapper does it. They do it because they're environment doesn't offer much else.

Juice World was on track to be the biggest rapper in the game and died of a drug overdose, his habit started because He himself said he listened to future's lyrics and got on lean because of that. It's kind of naive to think young people don't do shyt cause of lyrics. shyt I was smoking weed too much in college cause that was the subject of most rappers I listened to. Literally would play ibetigotsomeweed every time i smoked a joint from my latest cop. Young brains are impressed upon by everything.

 

[Samori Toure]

Maybe not but it’s great theme music for that shyt, same with some rap. Great theme music for that type of energy, it’s all about how you as the individual wants to use that energy…me personally, I use it in the gym, literally can lift more weight if the right track comes on. As much as I love hip hop, we can’t deny that rap has romanticized killing black men, wipe his nose sounds cool as fukk but it means to kill someone, spin da block another dope as slang term that romanticizes killing black men. I’m not even judging either, I’m a hip hop head but I’m also old enough to see now that this rap shyt is toxic af and the new shyt is no longer for me

Did the Godfather or Sopranos encourage people to join the mafia? Did Boy George, Will and Grace or Tyler Perry movies encourage dudes to become fags?

Music and all the arts for that matter are just a reflection of what is going on in society. It doesn't make people do anything that they were not already inclined to do. Blaming rap music is just another way for society to blame the Black man for stuff. They used to do the same thing for Blues, Jazz and Rock and Roll. It was easier to blame the Black artists than to just admit that people are inclined to abuse substances or acknowledge that a lot of women are promiscuous. Then all of a sudden it becomes alright when White people start playing that music.

 

[tay1]

Same talking point racist whites used in the 90s to censor rap. Crazy how we pick up their talking points

Poverty is the reason for a lot that’s going on in our community, not rap.