Rank the last eight US presidents from best to worst

[DEAD7]

Don’t see how you can really rank Biden yet.

They’re all though.

 

[NZA]

tier 1: obama, clinton
tier 2: carter
tier 3: bush, trump
tier 4: bush jr, reagan

they are not all rankable linearly. some are about the same, so i made a tiered list. all are inadequate and im not ranking biden yet

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I put Clinton over Obama. he had the economy popping.

Nah the tech boom and low interest rates had the economy growing.

Clinton laid the groundwork for the 2008 Great Recession with his financial deregulation and destroyed jobs for large swaths of population with NAFTA. He was an awful president and his legacy has aged horribly.

 

[88m3]

I put Clinton over Obama. he had the economy popping.

Obama had an amazing economy when things rebounded

I never thought I would experience anything like it after the recession we had

 

[invincible1914]

The economy was humming for some, but not everyone. NAFTA killed our work force. He was really bad president.

Nah the tech boom and low interest rates had the economy growing.

Clinton laid the groundwork for the 2008 Great Recession with his financial deregulation and destroyed jobs for large swaths of population with NAFTA. He was an awful president and his legacy has aged horribly.

Obama had an amazing economy when things rebounded

I never thought I would experience anything like it after the recession we had

Maybe I don’t know what I’m talking bout. I was just too young then to understand.

Man these Republicans be coming up with some trash presidents though.

 

[Ezra]

Maybe I don’t know what I’m talking bout. I was just too young then to understand.

Man these Republicans be coming up with some trash presidents though.

Clinton was a bad president because he pandered to conservatives. His policies were all much further right than you'd expect from a Dem POTUS

 

[acri1]

tier 1: obama, clinton
tier 2: carter
tier 3: bush, trump
tier 4: bush jr, reagan

they are not all rankable linearly. some are about the same, so i made a tiered list. all are inadequate and im not ranking biden yet

Seems like you're more forgiving of Trump than most. I could understand putting W and Reagan below him I guess, he's definitely worse than the first bush.

Outside of the Gulf War he barely did anything memorable positive or negative, the worst thing he did was probably producing Dubya. I think Trump is way worse simply because he had much more of a toxic impact on politics.

 

[Ezra]

Seems like you're more forgiving of Trump than most. I could understand putting W and Reagan below him I guess, he's definitely worse than the first bush.

Outside of the Gulf War he barely did anything memorable positive or negative, the worst thing he did was probably producing Dubya. I think Trump is way worse simply because he had much more of a toxic impact on politics.

Trump is awful, but he was not the cause of our toxic politics. He's simply just the culmination of racist, neoconservative policies that took over w Reagan's admin, which where also the culmination of the GOP courting disaffected racist southern democrats who left their party during the civil rights era.

The reason Trump isnt as low as Reagan or W is pure luck. If he had any sort of competency, the he'd be able to enact much worse polices. Besides the COVID, he pretty much avoided any huge opportunities to really fukk us up like W did getting us into Iraq ect.

 

[mastermind]

One of the worst legacies of Dubya is how Cheany and Rumsfeld privatized defense and stole billions in taxpayer dollars because of it. Yes, stole. Millions of dead Iraqi people for no reason than to make these people money.

Reagan is the worst though because he set up our current disaster.

 

[acri1]

Trump is awful, but he was not the cause of our toxic politics. He's simply just the culmination of racist, neoconservative policies that took over w Reagan's admin, which where also the culmination of the GOP courting disaffected racist southern democrats who left their party during the civil rights era.

The reason Trump isnt as low as Reagan or W is pure luck. If he had any sort of competency, the he'd be able to enact much worse polices. Besides the COVID, he pretty much avoided any huge opportunities to really fukk us up like W did getting us into Iraq ect.

I agree with most of what you're saying, and yeah in terms of policies Dubya/Reagan are worse. But I think you're somewhat downplaying Trump's toxic effect on politics.

He might not be the cause but he made it a lot worse. You literally had white nationalists marching after Trump won. He pretty much made blatant lying a normal thing and has literally convinced most of the Republican base that Biden isn't the legitimate president. And conditioned them to believe that any media critical of him is "fake news". Not to mention how he politicized getting vaccinated which I'm sure led to a lot of deaths that wouldn't have otherwise happened. Incited a riot at the White House. And you now have pretty much every Republican politician trying to emulate him. This amount of toxicity and disinformation just isn't something you saw with Bush...

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

That's cool. For what it's worth Obama was handed a dumpster fire of an economy before kicking off the longest bull run ever. His policies also incentived the production and sales of electric vehicles and green energy in general

Obama's presidency didn't include the fukking Crime Bill. That alone gives Obama the edge

 

[Mike Nasty]

tier 1: obama, clinton
tier 2: carter
tier 3: bush, trump
tier 4: bush jr, reagan

they are not all rankable linearly. some are about the same, so i made a tiered list. all are inadequate and im not ranking biden yet

Clinton signed NAFTA, so that puts him in tier 3 or 4......even a tier 5 in my book.

 

[Ezra]

Obama's presidency didn't include the fukking Crime Bill. That alone gives Obama the edge

Or NAFTA... although he tried w the TPP

 

[Ezra]

I agree with most of what you're saying, and yeah in terms of policies Dubya/Reagan are worse. But I think you're somewhat downplaying Trump's toxic effect on politics.

He might not be the cause but he made it a lot worse. You literally had white nationalists marching after Trump won. He pretty much made blatant lying a normal thing and has literally convinced most of the Republican base that Biden isn't the legitimate president. And conditioned them to believe that any media critical of him is "fake news". Not to mention how he politicized getting vaccinated which I'm sure led to a lot of deaths that wouldn't have otherwise happened. Incited a riot at the White House. And you now have pretty much every Republican politician trying to emulate him. This amount of toxicity and disinformation just isn't something you saw with Bush...

I definitely understand this perspective.

Im not defending trump at all. Im not trying to undersell what he did. We are worse off because he won than we'd be if any other GOP nominee won. It's awful, but all those undercurrents were already there. I truly believe that if Hillary won, we'd just kick the can down the road 4 more years and someone like Tom Cotton or Josh Hawley would be POTUS now - who are just trump but smart and component

The toxicity and disinformation wasnt as blatant under Bush, but it was there. There was a reason the Tea Party popped up the second we got a Black POTUS. All that shyt was there under Bush. He didnt do anything to smack it down. There also was a shytload of disinformation pushed by his Admin around the Iraq war, that got no push back in the MSM - which also paved the way for the fake news dumbasses .

 

[Schmoove]

Obama
Clinton
Carter
Bush I
Reagan
Bush II
Trump

I put Reagan over Bush II for the war. Reagan was horrible on Black inner cities with the drug trade, but the Cold War basically ended on his watch without escalating into World War 3.

Obama got health care which was a generational problem that finally got addressed.

Clinton improved the economy, no war, but NAFTA was a fukk up. I don't knock him for the crime bill like most folks who weren't alive or old enough to have lived during the crack era. The 1994 bill actually rolled back some of the worst of the 1986 crime bill. Folks forget that it was limited to FEDERAL crimes, no local or state.

Carter was scust, but at least he wasn't a racist or caused national/global disaster. He was the Dems version of HW Bush.

Trump's legacy is the pandemic, which he directly caused with his isolationist foreign policy