Randy Moss 30 for 30: Rand University
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Ronnie Lott
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Sorry bro, he's not the GOAT though. He had all the talent to be just that, but he never lived up to it. He could have been better than Rice, but he wasn't for several reasons. I don't even have him #2 all time, that would be Marvin Harrison. As a Viking WR, Cris Carter for 12 years > Moss for 7. Not to mention, Carter was still the #1 receiver for Moss' first 3 seasons. In his prime Moss was better than Carter, but I would have easily taken Carter's tenure as a Viking over Moss' pretty much any day
The second Moss stepped on the football field he was the #1 receiver. Don't be stupid.
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The second Moss stepped on the football field he was the #1 receiver. Don't be stupid.
Ok, then explain why Carter led the team in receptions for Moss' first 3 seasons. Let's be real here, Moss was an extremely good deep threat his first couple of seasons and not much more than that. You wouldnt see them throw many passes to him other than bombs and screens, he just wasn't the type to go over the middle and take hits at the time. Everyone needs to stop saying "Carter cant touch Moss", Carter is a fukking Hall of Famer and one of the best receivers of the previous generation point blank Lets compare Moss' and Carter's 1998-00 seasons
Carter
1998: 78 rec, 1011 yds, 12 TDs
1999: 90 rec, 1241 yds, 13 TDs
2000: 96 rec, 1274 yds, 9 TDs
Moss
1998: 69 rec, 1313 yds, 17 TDs
1999: 80 rec, 1413 yds, 11 TDs
2000: 77 rec, 1437 yds, 15 TDs
So in a nutshell, Carter was still the team's most reliable receiver, and this was when he was 33, 34, and 35 respectively. Moss got yards, I won't argue against that. But such a high percentage of plays designed to go to him were designed deep balls, which explains how he got his yards. Why do you think Carter was the one that was picked as a First Team All Pro in 1999, while Moss wasnt even on an All-Pro Team? Carter was still one of the NFL's receptions leaders well into his 30s, and Moss was a bit of a gimmick at that point in time in his career
when I remember how close he was to a chip with the Vikings.
by that point because Patriots.
so you're gonna ignore the fact that Moss had 200 more yards and 5 more TD's his rookie year, and say Carter was the #1 receiver just because he had 9 more catches (which were down 11 from what he had the previous year)
Receptions don't mean shyt. Carter was a possession receiver, of course he got more receptions. Moss was a deep threat. He was the #1 threat that teams gameplanned for on that team. Teams were double and triple teaming him that let Carter and Reed and other guys do their thing.
UserNameless
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so you're gonna ignore the fact that Moss had 200 more yards and 5 more TD's his rookie year, and say Carter was the #1 receiver just because he had 9 more catches (which were down 11 from what he had the previous year)
Receptions don't mean shyt. Carter was a possession receiver, of course he got more receptions. Moss was a deep threat. He was the #1 threat that teams gameplanned for on that team. Teams were double and triple teaming him that let Carter and Reed and other guys do their thing.
Did I ignore that? No, I clearly said that Moss got his yards. Dude, I've been a Vikings fan ever since Moss entered the league, and I can tell you from watching firsthand that he simply wasn't as good during his first 3 seasons as everyone made him out to be. The talent was there and you could tell he was oozing with potential, but at the same time, he was a very incomplete player and ran few routes other than deep balls and screens, he was just very very good at those 2 things alone. Carter ran every single route that you asked him to and had arguably the greatest pair of hands we've ever seen. He's the best boundary receiver of all time IMO
Receptions mean a ton. High number of receptions means high targets which means dependability. The Vikings could rely on Carter to catch passes over the middle and run more than 2 routes and take hits, they couldn't do the same for Moss until about 2002. A good comparison for this would be Brandon Marshall and Alshon Jeffery. Last year, it was Jeffery that led the team in receiving yards and was known as the team's big play maker, but would you try to reasonably argue that Jeffery was a better player than Marshall? Of course not. Moss was the better playmaker, Carter was the better overall receiver. That's why when it came down to it, outside of deep balls, as an overall receiver, Moss always deferred to Carter outside of Carter's last season in Minnesota. He was simply the better football player at the time. Moss eventually became better than Carter, but only during Carter's last year was that the case
AlbertPullhoez
The Takeover
God shut the fukk up. Randy Moss is easily the greatest Viking WR ever.
This post fukking sucks