Random thought on wages...

[DEAD7]

So since you say that let me throw this out there:

What if corporations in a specific country colluded together to make minimal paying jobs that would not support the cost of living of said country?

If state created and supported entities(corporations) partake in such, I would think it the responsibility of the citizenry to enact governmental change.

 

[Everythingg]

move to canada or czech republic?

Maybe this is what you meant by your question?

It would be slave wage

If so I agree If not then can you tell me how that wouldnt essentially be slave wage?

 

[Everythingg]

If state created and supported entities(corporations) partake in such, I would think it the responsibility of the citizenry to enact governmental change.

In other words, that would essentially be slave wage right? Gotcha...

 

[Kritic]

Maybe this is what you meant by your question?



If so I agree If not then can you tell me how that wouldnt essentially be slave wage?

according to these niccas if you have a choice then it ain't slavery. even if the choice is almost *unattainable...

 

[Everythingg]

according to these niccas if you have a choice then it ain't slavery. even if the choice is almost attainable...

Yea I dont agree with that type of thinking.

 

[DEAD7]

Any person with common decency, common sense, and morality knows that the corporate system creates wage labor and global, national, and local barriers rpevent working class people, especially blacks, from easily moving from job to job. How can you not acknowledge it? You really think blacks/working class people are that lazy that they willingly accept minimum wage and don;t attempt to move? its their own fault? The growing income and net worth gap between blacks and whites is all the black people's fault because we don't "easily" move to another wage labor job? Bare in mind that your answers to these questions will let me know if I can have an intelligent dialog with you. Proceed.

I don't recall referencing race at all, but I'm familiar with this liberal tactic. Soon I'll either be racist or a c00n, and no counter argument will need to be given. Zzz

 

[kp404]

I don't recall referencing race at all, but I'm familiar with this liberal tactic. Soon I'll either be racist or a c00n, and no counter argument will need to be given. Zzz

I'm not calling you anything. Just answer the questions. You wanted a real discussion, let's discuss, or like all conservatives, you dance around questions with generalizations and diversion tactics....prove me wrong...

 

[DEAD7]

In other words, that would essentially be slave wage right? Gotcha...

So you are saying we are slaves to govt.

I could get behind that.

 

[Everythingg]

So you are saying we are slaves to govt.

I could get behind that.

Currently it seems that way. And the gov't is slaves (or workers if you believe they have the "choice) to corporations.

But you never answered my original question which directly addressed your belief that "choice" cant be involved when it comes to slavery. If I got that last sentence wrong do tell me but thats what I got from your OP.

 

[kp404]

Currently it seems that way. And the gov't is slaves (or workers if you believe they have the "choice) to corporations.

But you never answered my original question which directly addressed your belief that "choice" cant be involved when it comes to slavery. If I got that last sentence wrong do tell me but thats what I got from your OP.

I'm still waiting on my responses too man...we may be waiting a while because conservatives never directly answer a question.

 

[Everythingg]

I'm still waiting on my responses too man...we may be waiting a while because conservatives never directly answer a question.

Patience is a virtue they say lol. So maybe now that he has seen it said about him twice he'll be more inclined to answer....

 

[kp404]

Patience is a virtue they say lol. So maybe now that he has seen it said about him twice he'll be more inclined to answer....

Told you so. All conservatives are the fukking same. Unintelligent Cowards.

 

[DEAD7]

Currently it seems that way. And the gov't is slaves (or workers if you believe they have the "choice) to corporations.

But you never answered my original question which directly addressed your belief that "choice" cant be involved when it comes to slavery. If I got that last sentence wrong do tell me but thats what I got from your OP.

No, slavery cannot be voluntary agreed to as labor is currently. if you disagree please explain this voluntary slave concept.
Govt. does use force, and I would agree we are slaves to the state, if that is what you are saying.

If you are saying the fry cook and Wendy's is a slave to the Wendy's corporation I wholly disagree.

Any person with common decency, common sense, and morality knows that the corporate system creates wage labor and global, national, and local barriers rpevent working class people, especially blacks, from easily moving from job to job.
1- How can you not acknowledge it?
2- You really think blacks/working class people are that lazy that they willingly accept minimum wage and don;t attempt to move?
3- its their own fault?
4- The growing income and net worth gap between blacks and whites is all the black people's fault because we don't "easily" move to another wage labor job?
Bare in mind that your answers to these questions will let me know if I can have an intelligent dialog with you. Proceed.

I'm still waiting on my responses too man...we may be waiting a while because conservatives never directly answer a question.

1- "common decency, common sense, and morality" are all subjective(something i'm sure you disagree with), but that doesnt matter. We agree. Corporatism is evil, immoral, and rigged to benefit the elites. Not sure exactly where you got the idea I favored corporatism.

2- As an absolute? no. I think many are lazy, and many are victim of circumstance. Both of those are exaggerated by the opposing side of the isle. IMHO

3- At the end of the day, the vast majority of the human capital that is squandered is the result of individual choice. The fact that the system is set up in a way to hinder minorities enables this excuse and gives it validity. To put it another way. Yeah the system is fukked, but it can be overcome.

4- No its a result of institutional racism and ill conceived economic policies. Keep in mind I dont see the black condition as being in as bad a shape as you probably do.

 

[DEAD7]

needlessly breakdown an exaggeration, brehs

Told you niqqas thought it was accurate and not an exaggeration

 

[kp404]

No, slavery cannot be voluntary agreed to as labor is currently. if you disagree please explain this voluntary slave concept.
Govt. does use force, and I would agree we are slaves to the state, if that is what you are saying.

If you are saying the fry cook and Wendy'd is a slave to the Wendy's corporation I wholly disagree.





1- "common decency, common sense, and morality" are all subjective(something i'm sure you disagree with), but that doesnt matter. We agree. Corporatism is evil, immoral, and rigged to benefit the elites. Not sure exactly where you got the idea I favored corporatism.

2- As an absolute? no. I think many are lazy, and many are victim of circumstance. Both of those are exaggerated by the opposing side of the isle. IMHO

3- At the end of the day, the vast majority of the human capital that is squandered is the result of individual choice. The fact that the system is set up in a way to hinder minorities enables this excuse and give sit validity. To put it another way. Yeah the system is fukked, but it can be overcome.

4- No its a result of institutional racism and ill conceived economic policies. Keep in mind I dont see the black condition as being in as bad a shape as you probably do.

Ok, now we getting somewhere. I respect your answers. Now answer me this: looking at the numbers, blacks are going to college more, but they are not finishing; black communites are being hypersegregated at an alarming rate; income and net worth between blacks and whites is expanding; all these things are affecting the job market for the working class as more and more jobs are being taken that pay minimum wage, which is putting blacks at a disproportionate position. My question to you is what is your analysis of the black condition currently? How do you see it and where do you see it going in this current system?