Random NFL Observations 2023-24 Thread

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Can somebody unlock this for me? Fully twist that fukkin dagger that the Jets have put in me. Fill me up with some more false hope.

:mjcry:
I have a ESPN+ sub but I'm sure the Jets solution is draft and spend FA money on fixing the OL.

Fundamentally though, putting all your chips on a 40-41 year old Aaron Rodgers is ridiculous and is setting up for more disappointment
 

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Can somebody unlock this for me? Fully twist that fukkin dagger that the Jets have put in me. Fill me up with some more false hope.

:mjcry:
1. Rule Aaron Rodgers out for the rest of the season. I'll start with an in-season decision. As much as Rodgers might want to prove he defied the skeptics in recovering from a torn Achilles in a matter of months, putting a 40-year-old quarterback working his way back from a major injury behind this Jets offensive line would be malpractice.

Let Rodgers throw passes on the field to some local kids at halftime to show off his recovery. Putting him in front of a live pass rush and having him reinjure the Achilles is the only thing that could make this New York season worse.

2. Retain Robert Saleh, but move on from Nathaniel Hackett. The next question is what to do with the staff. Given that the Jets are all-in to win a title in 2024 with Rodgers, they have to try to build the best possible staff to compete for a championship. Saleh's handling of Zach Wilson has left much to be desired, but there's no doubting his defensive bona fides. The Jets rank third in the NFL in expected points added (EPA) per play allowed and fifth in points allowed per possession. Replacing Saleh would likely mean hiring an inferior defensive coach, which would set the defense backward in a season in which they have to be dominant.

Replacing Hackett, however, is simply a necessity. He was brought in to help convince Rodgers to accept a trade to the Jets, but he has not been an effective offensive playcaller. Even in Rodgers' brief stint as a starter this season, he reportedly didn't like the cut-block quick game calls Hackett made for two of Rodgers' pass attempts, the second of which led to the Achilles injury. (Rodgers has since come out and defended Hackett and the offense.) Making Hackett an offensive adviser or giving him a murky role so he can hang out at the facility with Rodgers is fine, but he can't be the chief offensive architect and playcaller for an offense with championship aspirations.

Who would take Hackett's place? Ironically, given Rodgers' success with Matt LaFleur, one logical candidate would be Mike LaFleur, who was fired by the Jets after last season. If the Bears move on from Luke Getsy, the Jets could import him as another former Rodgers confidant in Green Bay. Eric Bieniemy could be one-and-done in Washington because of Ron Rivera's impending departure, while Ken Dorsey was better than many believed while building a top-10 offense with the Bills over the past two seasons. Unless the Jets believe Rodgers is going to retire if Hackett is not in charge, they need to have a more robust offensive brain trust in place.

As for Rodgers' other friends in New York, the choices might decide themselves. Randall Cobb and Billy Turner are free agents and unlikely to return. Allen Lazard disappointed and was made a healthy scratch in November, but his $10 million base salary in 2024 is guaranteed. The Jets won't be able to cut Lazard. I would suggest they should keep him around as a token of support to Rodgers, but I wonder if there's a way to both satisfy Rodgers' desire for old pals and upgrade at receiver ...

3. Trade Lazard and a 2025 first-round pick to the Raiders for Davante Adams. If the Jets are going to bring in some of Rodgers' old friends, they had might as well go after the good ones. Adams turns 31 on Christmas Eve and has seen his numbers drop this season, but it seems fair to assign at least some of the blame to a Raiders offense impacted by both quarterback and coaching changes. If the Jets are going to take a risk on anybody, they had might as well go after the best receiver Rodgers has ever had.

Adams is under contract for $17.5 million in 2024 before his contract rises dramatically in 2025, meaning he might be a one-year rental. I wouldn't typically suggest trading a first-round pick for a receiver on the wrong side of 30 under those circumstances, but the Jets are incentivized to win now and would also unload Lazard's $10 million salary on the Raiders. They would also get to keep their 2024 first-round pick, which they'll need to address next season's roster.

If they are hesitant to spend that much on a rental wide receiver, I can understand bringing back Lazard, hoping he looks renewed with Rodgers in the fold and using the 2025 first-rounder to address next year's team in other ways. I don't think they can find a match on trading that 2025 pick for a veteran offensive tackle, but they could use it to get a pick in the bottom third of the first round in 2024 and add a player up front who can help immediately.
 

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4. Try to bring back Bryce Huff. The Jets have a handful of pending free agents on defense, with Jordan Whitehead and Quinton Jefferson as notable other options, but Huff has to be their top priority. The former undrafted free agent racked up his eighth sack of the season Sunday, continuing a career season for a player who ranks sixth in the NFL in pass rush win rate.

Huff will have serious interest in free agency, which will make this tough. The Jets already have John Franklin-Myers and Jermaine Johnson on the edge and will want to carve out a bigger role for 2023 first-rounder Will McDonald IV, who has been buried on the depth chart as a rookie. Even with Carl Lawson leaving, there's a universe in which New York isn't willing or able to match what other teams are willing to pay for a guy who is still a rotation end in this defense.

General manager Joe Douglas comes from Philadelphia, though, and it's pretty clear his roster-building philosophy on defense is aligned with the deep defensive line rotation Howie Roseman has focused on there. Roseman has repeatedly found ways to bring back veterans Brandon Graham and Fletcher Cox, even while paying Haason Reddikk and Josh Sweat significant money. Unless Huff gets something north of $20 million per year, the Jets should stay competitive on the player who might be their best edge rusher.

5. Rebuild the offensive line. You knew it was coming. I talked all offseason about how the offensive line was an obvious flaw, but even I couldn't have anticipated how bad the injuries and play have been for New York. It was always naive to expect Duane Brown and Mekhi Becton to be superstars given their respective situations, but the Jets simply couldn't block the Dolphins up Sunday, leading to Wilson suffering a first-half concussion.

Some of these moves are already on the books. Brown's contract voids after the season. Turner and Connor McGovern are pending free agents. So is Becton, who has played 13 games but struggled for consistency at left tackle. He gave up 3.5 sacks Sunday, and given his injury history, they can't count on him as their left tackle in an all-in season. Bringing him back as anything more than a swing tackle would be asking for trouble.

Laken Tomlinson is a possible post-June 1 cap casualty, which would leave the Jets with something close to a blank slate up front. Joe Tippmann would be in at center. Alijah Vera-Tucker, who tore his Achilles earlier this season, would be back at some point in 2024, preferably at left guard. Wes Schweitzer and Max Mitchell are under contract next season and could serve as backups.

The Jets would need two new tackles, a guard and one more depth lineman who can step in immediately if Vera-Tucker is unable to start the season. Those holes need to be their offseason priority. Adding veteran David Bakhtiari sounds great on paper, but he has missed most of 2021 and 2023 while recovering from injuries. At the right price, sure, but New York can't come into 2024 with the same obvious question marks about health up front that it did this past offseason

Without their second-round pick from the Rodgers deal, the Jets should both use their 2024 first-round pick and be willing to borrow from their future to add more picks in April's draft. Starting three or four rookies wouldn't be ideal, but a mix of veterans and younger talent could work. I'd look at Jonah Williams and Yosh Nijman, who are in their prime and have experience at left tackle. They won't be cheap, but the Jets need to win those negotiations if they want Rodgers to survive the first quarter and make a deep playoff run next season.
 

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Jalen hurts 15td 9int is ass. Ironically, he’s on pace to have the same exact season Dak had last year :wtf:

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Ima need that same energy
 
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