Random NBA Observations 2024 - 2025

[GOAT]

Says the buddy who quoted me citing TS% when i clearly said PER

and who didn't read when i said big numbers (which isn't just scoring) + PER

But i get it, it's all good man

Yea, that's always been Tatum's obstacle to overcome. He produces "top 5" numbers but often at top 15'ish efficiency. Jokic, Giannis SGA produce top 5 at top 5. Hell, this year Jokic produces top 1 at top 1. It's why JT will always be in mvp talks but is never voted a top 3 finalists and is more often outside of the top 5, no matter the team record.

It may be pure coincidental but your PER does have a real correlation to your MVP consideration if you look back at the last however many winners. Not the only factor but notable. To his credit, he started this season on fire/with something to prove but it's about maintaining it.

 

[Primetime]

Says the buddy who quoted me citing TS% when i clearly said PER

and who didn't read when i said big numbers (which isn't just scoring) + PER

But i get it, it's all good man

Yea, that's always been Tatum's obstacle to overcome. He produces "top 5" numbers but often at top 15'ish efficiency. Jokic, Giannis SGA produce top 5 at top 5. Hell, this year Jokic produces top 1 at top 1. It's why JT will always be in mvp talks but is never voted a top 3 finalists and is more often outside of the top 5, no matter the team record.

It may be pure coincidental but your PER does have a real correlation to your MVP consideration if you look back at the last however many winners. Not the only factor but notable. To his credit, he started this season on fire/with something to prove but it's about maintaining it.

 

[who_better_than_me]

nvm

 

[GOAT]

...And then you said he produces it on top 15 "efficiency", while SGA does it on top 5. Despite the fact that they're producing basically the same numbers... on the same efficiency. PER is not a measure of efficiency

 

[winb83]

"Dikk couldn't finish"
"Dikk filled it up again"
He knew what he was doing.

 

[Illin Degenerate]

ill say this about tatum last year he wasnt really a serious candidate because the celtics were great no matter who was on the floor. this year +13.7 with him on the floor, only +.4 with him off the floor. he should probably be 3rd right now on most voters ballots

 

[Primetime]

...And then you said he produces it on top 15 "efficiency", while SGA does it on top 5. Despite the fact that they're producing basically the same numbers... on the same efficiency. PER is not a measure of efficiency

And then I showed you their player efficiency ranking (PER) from last year

JT: 24.6 PER
SGA: 28 PER

2023-2024
JT: 22.3 PER (14th)
SGA: 29.3 PER (3rd)

to illustrated they both put up "top 5 best player in the league" type numbers but at different PERs

I also said Jokic puts up best player in the league type numbers but also at #1 PER.

Even tho clearly Jokic doesn't lead the league in scoring


If you know what PER is and, as you said earlier, you don't care about it nor what JT's ranking is when it comes to it is... cool.

I already acknowledged you're just being a faithful stan protecting your "guy" and i get it.

you good

 

[Primetime]

ill say this about tatum last year he wasnt really a serious candidate because the celtics were great no matter who was on the floor. this year +13.7 with him on the floor, only +.4 with him off the floor. he should probably be 3rd right now on most voters ballots

Yea. Lost in all this, i said in my initial post that to JT's credit he's been great to start this season.

He just has to maintain it.

 

[GOAT]

And then I showed you their player efficiency ranking (PER) from last year



to illustrated they both put up "top 5 best player in the league" type numbers but at different PERs

I also said Jokic puts up best player in the league type numbers but also at #1 PER.

Even tho clearly Jokic doesn't lead the league in scoring


If you know what PER is and, as you said earlier, you don't care about it nor what JT's ranking is when it comes to it is... cool.

I already acknowledged you're just being a faithful stan protecting your "guy" and i get it.

you good

You STILL think PER is a measure of efficiency?

 

[VegetasHairline]

 

[Walt]

 

[JoelB]

this franchise is cursed

 

[42 Monks]

miller

 

[BandOfGypsys]

Go get em rick!

 

[42 Monks]

cody martin should've been learned chinese by now