Random NBA Observations 2024 - 2025

[who_better_than_me]

 

[MikelArteta]

Darwin Ham was undefeated in season tournament

 

[GOAT]

Yea, that's always been Tatum's obstacle to overcome. He produces "top 5" numbers but often at top 15'ish efficiency. Jokic, Giannis SGA produce top 5 at top 5. Hell, this year Jokic produces top 1 at top 1. It's why JT will always be in mvp talks but is never voted a top 3 finalists and is more often outside of the top 5, no matter the team record.

It may be pure coincidental but your PER does have a real correlation to your MVP consideration if you look back at the last however many winners. Not the only factor but notable. To his credit, he started this season on fire/with something to prove but it's about maintaining it.

JT: 29 PPG on 61.5% TS
SGA: 30 PPG on 61.4% TS

 

[Primetime]

JT: 29 PPG on 61.5% TS
SGA: 30 PPG on 61.4% TS

JT: 24.6 PER
SGA: 28 PER

2023-2024
JT: 22.3 PER (14th)
SGA: 29.3 PER (3rd)

 

[GOAT]

JT: 24.6 PER
SGA: 28 PER

2023-2024
JT: 22.3 PER (14th)
SGA: 29.3 PER (3rd)

Not even ESPN takes PER seriously anymore

 

[Primetime]

Not even ESPN takes PER seriously anymore

Thanks for contributing

 

[GOAT]

Thanks for contributing

Not only is it a useless stat, but it is egregiously mislabeled lol. It has almost nothing to do with scoring "efficiency".

 

[Primetime]

Not only is it a useless stat, but it is egregiously mislabeled lol. It has almost nothing to do with scoring "efficiency".

That's just because it goes against your "guy". I get it

It's all good. Appreciate the insight

 

[GOAT]

That's just because it goes against your "guy". I get it

It's all good. Appreciate the insight

It is an outdated advanced stat (if you really want to call that basic ass boxscore formula "advanced") that has basically been abandoned by everyone (including ESPN itself) in favor of more comprehensive metrics.

PER currently has Daniel Gafford, Robert Williams, and Ty Jerome in the Top 10

 

[who_better_than_me]

 

[Peter Popoff]

This fụcked up

 

[Primetime]

It is an outdated advanced stat (if you really want to call that basic ass boxscore formula "advanced") that has basically been abandoned by everyone (including ESPN itself) in favor of more comprehensive metrics.

PER currently has Daniel Gafford, Robert Williams, and Ty Jerome in the Top 10

And they wouldn't be by the end of the season, just like several ppg leaders 14 games into the season wouldn't be by end of the season...but you already knew that. Not to mention putting up numbers while maintaining elite efficiency was the point, not one without the other.

But again, you're on your Celtic pride stan shtick and i got no problem with that. But save it for Laker and Knick fans. I'm not really interested. It's all good tho.

 

[GOAT]

And they wouldn't be by the end of the season, just like several ppg leaders 14 games into the season wouldn't be by end of the season...but you already knew that. Not to mention putting up numbers while maintaining elite efficiency was the point, not one without the other.

But again, you're on your Celtic pride stan shtick and i got no problem with that. But save it for Laker and Knick fans. I'm not really interested. It's all good tho.

You still think PER is a scoring efficiency stat? Yikes. You don't even know what the stats you're citing even measure, let alone whether or not they matter

 

[Primetime]

You still think PER is a scoring efficiency stat? Yikes. You don't even know what the stats you're citing even measure, let alone whether or not they matter

Says the buddy who quoted me citing TS% when i clearly said PER

and who didn't read when i said big numbers (which isn't just scoring) + PER

But i get it, it's all good man

 

[Collateral]

New season and they’re still carrying the “mid” tradition. They’ve been mid for just about a decade now, hotdammit