Random NBA Observations 2017 - 2018
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tremonthustler1
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Because once Embiid's back flared up it was a 2 player draft.
That and Jabari was lobbying to go to Milwaukee. That goes a long way with smaller market teams.
That and they still had Larry Sanders who they just gave $44 mil to. What sucks for them was that immediately after they paid him he got hurt and then he was going through his bullshyt. Larry is wasted talent for real. Coulda been him and Whiteside battling right now in the East 4 times a year
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It always seemed like in hindsight they were just focused on Wiggs/Bari.
It wasn't his back, he was a lock for the number 1 after his workout with the Cavs had them blown away, but that also revealed he had a broken foot.
They took Jabari under the premise that Embiid was hurt, yet Jabari has proven to be injury prone as well, they passed on BPA and a generational talent that was right there for them to take. Having Larry Sanders doesn't stop you from drafting Embiid. Hammond's draft picks outside of Giannis have been
tremonthustler1
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It wasn't his back, he was a lock for the number 1 after his workout with the Cavs had them blown away, but that also revealed he had a broken foot.
They took Jabari under the premise that Embiid was hurt, yet Jabari has proven to be injury prone as well, they passed on BPA and a generational talent that was right there for them to take. Having Larry Sanders doesn't stop you from drafting Embiid. Hammond's draft picks outside of Giannis have been
100% Hindsight speaking. The Cavs had a need for any of the three players. The Bucks needed a SF and PF before they needed a C, so if you view talents on an even playing field, the guy who plays a position of need and WANTS to play for you is gonna win out 9 times out of 10.
If we're gonna be honest with ourselves, none of the top 3 players get picked where they were if we knew what we know now.
and yes, having Sanders DOES stop you from taking Embiid because Hammond loses his job if BOTH Sanders and Embiid are useless to them the first 2 years. They weren't in Trust The Process mode because they were in the middle of selling the team and hoping they could get a new arena built. Remember, they made the playoffs that following year and Hammond NEEDED to because he was on the hot seat at the time. At the end of the day, a healthy Parker is REALLY good too, so the same way people waited for Embiid (who to date has still played less than half the games Parker has), the Bucks will wait for Parker.
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I think at this point, you smoking dicc if you think Bron coming back...although I do hope CLE finds a reasonable get back for all the shyt deals that will still be here
I think at this point, you smoking dicc if you think Bron coming back...although I do hope CLE finds a reasonable get back for all the shyt deals that will still be here
No, the Cavs were set to take Embiid, Dan Gilbert was fully on board and was at his workout, they were going to take him he was the obvious number 1 pick.
The Bucks didn't "need" a SF, they had Giannis already and you don't draft for need when you're as lacking on the overall talent as they were. Joel is a generational talent, Jabari is not, neither was Larry, you don't draft for need in the top 3 and pass on players that are considerably better than what you have. You do what the Lakers did, which is move the guy you view as the lesser of the two. A healthy Parker isn't in the same ballpark as Joel, one is a franchise talent and the other is a good number 2. You can say it's hindsight all you want, but the fact remains the guy who was labeled the best player in the draft is the best player from that draft class
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tremonthustler1
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But they didn't take Embiid. The Cavs' needs and the Bucks' needs were different. Apples to oranges. Wiggins, Parker and Embiid were all viewed on the same tier. Some people loved Wiggins more, some loved Parker more, some loved a healthy Embiid more. We know what transpired and it wasn't Embiid going #1. You're looking at Embiid through your own Embiid goggles when it wasn't like that. You're treating Embiid like he was the Tim Duncan of the draft and everyone else was an afterthought by comparison. It wasn't like that. You can't keep looking at it that way no matter how much you love Embiid. Embiid WASN'T considered to be a potential #1 pick until late in that Kansas season when he really emerged. Before it was basically Wiggins and we'll see if Parker can make it a debate. Embiid entered the conversation late and took the edge late until he got hurt and since he got hurt, didn't get picked.No, the Cavs were set to take Embiid, Dan Gilbert was fully on board and was at his workout, they were going to take him he was the obvious number 1 pick.
The Bucks didn't "need" a SF, they had Giannis already and you don't draft for need when you're as lacking on the overall talent as they were. Joel is a generational talent, Jabari is not, neither was Larry, you don't draft for need in the top 3 and pass on players that are considerably better than what you have. You do what the Lakers did, which is move the guy you view as the lesser of the two. A healthy Parker isn't in the same ballpark as Joel, one is a franchise talent and the other is a good number 2. You can say it's hindsight all you want, but the fact remains the guy who was labeled the best player in the draft is the best player from that draft class
Bruh, nobody really knew what Giannis' position was gonna be in the NBA (he's been primarily three different positions in three different years, so they don't marry Giannis to a position so to speak). They DID know they lacked a 4. Enter Jabari.
The Lakers' example is a bad one because they didn't made long term commitments to any of their core members. It's a lot harder to trade Russell if he has a big contract attached to him like Sanders did (and on top of that, the same people who picked Ball DIDN'T pick Russell. It's an easier break.)
You think Philly was doing all that losing to take Embiid first if they had the chance?
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