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This is why I don't understand dudes saying Kawhi is the "engine" of that team (as opposed to other star players) or the fact that he holds them up defensively (they've actually had a better defensive rating in the games he hasn't played in - that's including the games where Gasol and Parker play). The Spurs are 35-9 for a reason, and that reason sure as hell ain't because the team lives and dies because of him.

:manny:

U straight hating simple as that we have the best bench in the league and playing nets don't mean shyt
Raptors no dorzan don't help them
Let alone they defense not that good anyway
It's like saying the year pippen had the bulls with damn near same record as Jordan when they played together ain't shyt :mjpls:

This whole bs bout his defense being bad is just false u first wanna show stats then we already explained keep kawhi away then also notice defense got better when pop used certain rotation and mins for gasol
This team isn't elite without kawhi can they win without him sure

Ur hating ass forgot how we left big 3 before when we played Miami big 3 and gave them a hard time and this was before kawhi was even a focal point what does that make Parker manu Duncan then
 
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You better than this. He's missed three games before tonight. The Spurs went against Brooklyn, Phoenix, and the Blazers without Lillard. Any team would with a decent system would put up great defensive numbers facing that competition.
Here's the problem with this:

I. Brooklyn just put up 143 points against the Pelicans (who are a top-10 defense) - they're not void of talent
II. Both Phoenix and T'Blazers without Dame aren't void of offensive talent as well
III. There were a few posters (whom my post is talking about) that made it seem the Spurs' defense lives and dies because of Kawhi. Hell somebody even said that only 10% of the Spurs roster plays defense, and that Kawhi is the one who's trying to keep the rest of the team afloat on that end. Now if that and similar rhetoric were to be true, you'd see it IMMEDIATELY when Kawhi didn't play; that supposed effect and impact he has would be evident in the games he doesn't play in - no matter who the competition is. But it's not. They're still a damn good defensive team without him (even with Pau and Parker are playing).

This is not me saying that Kawhi isn't one of, if not the best perimeter defender in the league. This is not me saying that Kawhi isn't the Spurs best defender. This is me saying that his defensive impact is overstated and the reasons for why the team has a subpar DRTG when he's on court isn't all because of the players that he plays with.
 

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This dude on philly, Richaun Holmes, he's balling tonight. What's the report on him? I've never seen him play. @AAKing23
Hyper athletic, very active energy big off the bench who can't get playing time because of our depth at the big men positions

Can stretch the floor a bit but Not a particularly strong rebounder/ defender tho :manny:
 
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U straight hating simple as that we have the best bench in the league and playing nets don't mean shyt
Raptors no dorzan don't help them
Let alone they defense not that good anyway
:gucci:

They've had a better DRTG in the games without Kawhi - that doesn't mean the defense is better without him - it just means it's still damn good even when he doesn't play. The defense does not fall apart when he's not on court or not playing like a # of y'all made it seem.
It's like saying the year pippen had the bulls with damn near same record as Jordan when they played together ain't shyt :mjpls:
That's another conversation altogether, especially considering I'm strictly talking about the defensive side of things and how much impact Kawhi has on that end in order for the Spurs to be successful. Never mind the fact that Pippen was arguably the Bulls best defender, even with Jordan on the team.
This whole bs bout his defense being bad is just false
:dwillhuh:

Who said his defense was bad or even alluded as such? My point(s) all along were that 1. His defensive impact was overstated 2. His on-court DRTG was NOT simply down to teams playing 4v4 and fazing him out of their offensive play and because of Pau's and Parker lack of defense. Just that there's a lot more to it than oversimplifying it by solely blaming those around him.
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
Hyper athletic, very active energy big off the bench who can't get playing time because of our depth at the big men positions

Can stretch the floor a bit but Not a particularly strong rebounder/ defender tho :manny:


If he could be more disciplined on defense he'd be the starting PF, he tries to block everything whether he can get it or not.
 

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Hyper athletic, very active energy big off the bench who can't get playing time because of our depth at the big men positions

Can stretch the floor a bit but Not a particularly strong rebounder/ defender tho :manny:
Got it. He's all over the floor tonight. Crazy active. I could see how he could get lost down the depth chart.
 
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