Random NBA Observations 2016 - 2017

[BXKingPin82]

As bad as its been with Rose and Melo,imagine how much worse itll be with Deng,Clarkson & Lou Will

Knicks shyt is Twighlight Zone level shyt tho
On some, "watch this band of outcasts do better than any Melo led Knicks squad ever assembled" type shyt
:cp3what:

 

[Emoryal]

I like Kyle,im afraid of giving a 31 yr old a max deal....I would be more comfortable with a 2 yr deal with 3 team options for each year after

He's gotten better these last two years though

 

[Miggs]

He's gotten better these last two years though

How long will it last ? Steve Nash is the only guy i can remember improving or keeping his production thru to his mid 30s...it rarely happens...

 

[Malta]

You can try to trade for a PG and some front court help,you could possibly dangle DeRozan in a trade,all kinds of things you can do...

You have all kinds of pieces in play....JV,DMC,Joseph,DD

If they have a meltdown again you cant discount they will finally try to break up this core and re tool...DeRozan having an ALL NBA season helps them to be able to do that...if they want too.

I know you trying to hint they go back to irrelevancy without Lowry but i dont agree thats the case....

Wow, your plan sounds a lot like rebuilding


Who said anything about irrelevance? You think they're relevant right now in LeBron's conference? To me, it sounds like you think they can't win now, and thus need to start over again, that seems to fall right into the timeline I gave you.

 

[Miggs]

Wow, your plan sounds a lot like rebuilding


Who said anything about irrelevance? You think they're relevant right now in LeBron's conference? To me, it sounds like you think they can't win now, and thus need to start over again, that seems to fall right into the timeline I gave you.

Dogg you said 2 years ago they wouldnt make the playoffs,theyve improved every year since that false delcaration...Do i think they can win with this team as is right now ? NOPE Can they win with an addition ? YES

It aint starting over if they keep DeRozan.I dont think they need to start over,i think they can re tool on the fly if they dont want to re-sign Lowry.

They would have room to sign or trade for a front court player/PG...I would be willing to have a lesser PG to bolster the front court down the road.

 

[I AM WARHOL]

What are the odds of Boston moving that Nets pick?

 

[Miggs]

Kyle Lowry is not worth the max, he's gonna get overpaid in free agency and he reached his peak. Raptors would be smart to let him walk in free agency.

Youre wrong and thats the issue the Raptors have this off season...He is definitely worth the max but hes 31 how long will he be worth it....

 

[Derek Lee]

 

[Miggs]

A 3 year deal would be good, but if they want to re-sign Lowry, they would have to trade Demarre Carroll or JV, cause Lowry is going to get a huge contract offer from some trash team and he won't refuse it due to his age. If Raptors don't trade either of those two, they can't re-sign Lowry.

He wont accept a 3 year deal lol,if its not us someone will give it to him and take the risk...

 

[Malta]

Dogg you said 2 years ago they wouldnt make the playoffs,theyve improved every year since that false delcaration...Do i think they can win with this team as is right now ? NOPE Can they win with an addition ? YES

It aint starting over if they keep DeRozan.I dont think they need to start over,i think they can re tool on the fly if they dont want to re-sign Lowry.

They would have room to sign or trade for a front court player/PG...I would be willing to have a lesser PG to bolster the front court down the road.

2 years ago? I gave yall a 3 year window, and said the East was catching up, you kept saying the Heat would fall off and you were right about that but didn't see the LeBron to Cavs title team coming.

You just said they got DeRozan to dangle in trades beloved, you see Embiid and Giannis and know they got next in the East.

You cannot rely on FA anymore, it's gonna be harder to sign dudes away from teams, even non stars.

 

[I AM WARHOL]

It's not going to happen unless they trade for Cousins or another superstar player.

I mean that goes without saying.

 

[Bay Area]

This makes zero sense for all teams involved.

Cavs lose their main rebounder and advantage over the Warriors, Lakers have already come out and said they arent trading Clarkson, and Knicks clear cap space but in a weak FA class

Beat me to it... Those extra possessions from offensive rebounds are the only thing that gives Cleveland a fighting chance when the Warriors shots stop falling.

 

[Miggs]

2 years ago? I gave yall a 3 year window, and said the East was catching up, you kept saying the Heat would fall off and you were right about that but didn't see the LeBron to Cavs title team coming.

You just said they got DeRozan to dangle in trades beloved, you see Embiid and Giannis and know they got next in the East.

You cannot rely on FA anymore, it's gonna be harder to sign dudes away from teams, even non stars.

I said if they choose to let Lowry walk,they could next year or in 2 years use Demar as bait if want to go in another direction if he stays at his current level and he will allow them to bring something of signifigance back in trade....My point is they have options if they want to switch it up friend...

 

[Malta]

I said if they choose to let Lowry walk,they could next year or in 2 years use Demar as bait if want to go in another direction if he stays at his current level and he will allow them to bring something of signifigance back in trade....My point is they have options if they want to switch it up friend...

They're going to max Lowry out, Masai doesn't let his players walk. Maybe he gives them a slight deal for believing in him, but I don't see him leaving unless the offer is some disrespectful shyt. Is that how Raptor fans feel, or is that how you feel? Like is the rest of Toronto like at the thought of resigning him.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

Kyle Lowry is not worth the max, he's gonna get overpaid in free agency and he reached his peak. Raptors would be smart to let him walk in free agency.

The Raptors would be fools to let this guy go.

Both the Clippers and Raptors are in the same position with Cp3 and Lowry. They're both basically are going to have to bite the bullet and pay these guys the max because they're damned if they do but really really damned if they don't. This is a point guard's league and you're completely fukked if you don't have one. They both have elite ones. I think in the case of Lowry he really hasn't played that many minutes in his NBA career so he'll be a young 31 so his breakdown potential is probably a bit exaggerated . In the case of Cp3 he'll be good enough even with even more drop in athleticism to be worth it.

If either of these teams let these guys go they're basically conceding to rebuild, which is probably not the best look business wise. Longterm maybe the Clips have run it's course and Doc's moves have put them in a horrible position to get better without completely blowing it up but it really feels they have no choice but to ride this out.

With the Raptors I get the sense that MLSE is just about the business and having a Lowry/Derozan core even for the next 4-5 years has brought some respectability to the franchise even if they don't necessarily have a chance to win the chip longterm with Milwaukee & Philly emerging and Lebron running things now.