Random NBA Observations 2015 - 2016

[Cool Dr. Money]

Chuck is right about the clippers Shaq in his feelings

 

[CarltonJunior]

Shaq talking that shyt about Deandre I been saying.. Son doesn't get any post touches at all

He hasn't proved anything, dude should have 50%+ free throw shooting if he had real work ethic along with some semblance of touch at the rim

 

[CarltonJunior]

The Pacers, along with PG are quietly putting together a solid season. They can put mid-level East playoff teams like the Bucks, Wizards and the Raptors on notice this year.

They, along with the Pistons are the two teams that I'm watching to possibly upset us this year on the path to LeBron and the Cavs

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Shaq talking that shyt about Deandre I been saying.. Son doesn't get any post touches at all

Shaq amd Chuck are both dumbazzes. DJ cant make a hook shlt, why would anyone pass him the ball when he's just gonna get fouled and brick fts?

Then Blake has improved, he just hasn't improved his post gm.

They both are mental midgets.

And CP is a ballhog

 

[WOAHMYGOODNESS]

The Pacers, along with PG are quietly putting together a solid season. They can put mid-level East playoff teams like the Bucks, Wizards and the Raptors on notice this year.

They, along with the Pistons are the two teams that I'm watching to possibly upset us this year on the path to LeBron and the Cavs

Yeah pg as the 4 against a small ball team is deadly

 

[the cool]

i make sure that i clear my schedule every night a golden state warrior game comes on TV


i don't have league pass

 

[mattlanta]

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Well, I ain't about to unpack 4 years of basketball and this is the kind of argument that quickly descends into semantics so that's that.

You're lying to yourself. Rondo was never a great player, let alone a great player for FOUR years.

Honestly I feel like this shyt's a red herring in how it fails to reflect what you see on the court. Dividing points scored by possessions tells you nothing about how those touches impact the game.

They actually do. If a player is touching the ball EIGHT times more than the second most player in the league, yet they only average 0.12 points per touch (368th in the league) - obviously he isn't doing shyt with the ball but hindering his team's offense by not scoring at an even adequate rate.

You're essentially saying that a touch is "to no avail" if it doesn't end in a score for the person holding the ball because that is the only thing that stat infers. It's literally touches/ppg.

Yet all the top offenses' main ballhandlers have a 0.25 points per touch and upwards (Curry is 0.359 PPT on 89.4 touches a game).

You haven't described or demonstrated any correlation between a player's total touches and a team's offense, in short, comprehend what?

Do I really need to spell it out that if your main ballhandler is 5th in the league in time of possession, 1st in touches in the league, 10th in offensive rating on his own squad team - while scoring 12 ppg, and the team currently has the 20th best offense - that it's because the main ball handler's inability to score is hindering the offense?

Have you even watched any Kings games this season? Have you not seen how Rondo's inability to score has affected their offense?

Jack's trending up and as much as Wall has struggled there's no way you've watched them play and can actually believe that, but cool another story.

Actually believe what? That they've basically had near-equal impact on their respective team's offense so far? I suggest you watch more games breh.

Then your complaint is aesthetic because "give somebody else the same remit and you get the same thing" certainly isn't qualitative..

No it's not. It's based on results. The Kings have a poor offense and Rondo has poor offensive rating for a reason.

I don't buy it because you're pointing to a correlation based on a multitude of factors, then underlining one feature as if it defines everything else. If you're trying to tell me that those stats are representative of the best years of his career then you're trying to sell me a lie.

Go and look up all the offenses he's led. They've always been middle-of-the-pack to the worst in the league. I don't even know why this needs explaining.

Never needed you to hold my hand but I can't respond to a point you haven't made without putting words in your mouth. To that end chill with the hyperbole.

We've been over all these points before. What is it with you when it comes to Rondo? It's as if you act oblivious to all that's come before, when it concerns him.

Carlisle is a great coach, Rondo was a bad fit for a flow offense and didn't look healthy but every indicator suggests that Mavs team was due a sharp regression to the mean, their schedule was way backloaded and their lack of depth at the forward position hurt.

Nope. Wrong. I don't think they would've kept the offense going at the same rate for the remainder of the season, but it wouldn't have dropped as it did if they didn't sign Rondo. Defense would've taken a hit, but not their offense.

When exactly were the Clippers under Doc Rivers not a top ranked offense?

Replace CP3 with Rondo and those offenses over past three seasons would've fallen off a cliff.

The alterations of their play style had more to do with younger personnel, injuries and Blake's evolution as a ball handler as opposed to some revelation Doc had that you've tenuously linked to Rondo.

There's a reason why he let Rondo freelance in Boston, and not demand him to be an option scorer - the offense suffered because of it. There's a reason why Doc realized you're not going to win if you have a ball-dominant PG who doesn't move the ball.

Doc Rivers Convinced Chris Paul to Become Less Ball-Dominant | SLAMonline

 

[Serious]

guess who's leading the nba in assist

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

guess who's leading the nba in assist

Guess who's leading the league in assists at the expense of making his team's offense shytty

 

[Serious]

i make sure that i clear my schedule every night a golden state warrior game comes on TV


i don't have league pass

it's only $40 @Codeine Crazy

 

[Serious]

You're lying to yourself. Rondo was never a great player, let alone a great player for FOUR years.
They actually do. If a player is touching the ball EIGHT times more than the second most player in the league, yet they only average 0.12 points per touch (368th in the league) - obviously he isn't doing shyt with the ball but hindering his team's offense by not scoring at an even adequate rate.

Yet all the top offenses' main ballhandlers have a 0.25 points per touch and upwards (Curry is 0.359 PPT on 89.4 touches a game).

Do I really need to spell it out that if your main ballhandler is 5th in the league in time of possession, 1st in touches in the league, 10th in offensive rating on his own squad team - while scoring 12 ppg, and the team currently has the 20th best offense - that it's because the main ball handler's inability to score is hindering the offense?

Have you even watched any Kings games this season? Have you not seen how Rondo's inability to score has affected their offense?

Actually believe what? That they've basically had near-equal impact on their respective team's offense so far? I suggest you watch more games breh.

No it's not. It's based on results. The Kings have a poor offense and Rondo has poor offensive rating for a reason.

Go and look up all the offenses he's led. They've always been middle-of-the-pack to the worst in the league. I don't even know why this needs explaining.

We've been over all these points before. What is it with you when it comes to Rondo? It's as if you act oblivious to all that's come before, when it concerns him.

Nope. Wrong. I don't think they would've kept the offense going at the same rate for the remainder of the season, but it wouldn't have dropped as it did if they didn't sign Rondo. Defense would've taken a hit, but not their offense.

Replace CP3 with Rondo and those offenses over past three seasons would've fallen off a cliff.

There's a reason why he let Rondo freelance in Boston, and not demand him to be an option scorer - the offense suffered because of it. There's a reason why Doc realized you're not going to win if you have a ball-dominant PG who doesn't move the ball.

Doc Rivers Convinced Chris Paul to Become Less Ball-Dominant | SLAMonline

( ) man I love this shyt. You know the nba is back when gil is posting long winded essays at 2am in the morning ( )

 

[Darealtwo1]

guess who's leading the nba in assist

man rondo is leadin the league but they suck as a team.....rondo ast be BS tho anyway he is a pass first PG so ofc he will. Plus he a dribble dribble out the shot clock type nikka.

Put it like this

Rondo 12pts 10.8 asts

Damian Lillard 25pts 7.2 asts

3 more asts doesn't equal 13 more points...

Westbrook is at 28pts and 10.1 asts

0.7 asts doesn't equal more 16 points


Rondo "leading" in asts means nothing

If anything Westbrook is leading and Lillard is behind him and then its LeGM/LeCoach/LeAct/LeOwner

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Elfrid Payton remains a below-average shooter and ranks toward the bottom among shooting guards in gravity and distraction scores — proprietary SportVU tracking stats that measure how closely defenders stick to players (gravity) and how willing defenders are to drift away from those same players (distraction). Payton has the third-worst distraction score among all guards in the NBA, ahead of only Rajon Rondo and Ronnie Price

@Greenstrings

Have the second-worst distraction score in the league among guards while dominating the ball, and act like that won't have a negative impact on a team's offense when dudes play off you while you looking to pad your assists and not score brehs.

 

[BXKingPin82]

Hornets extended Clifford?