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Like I said before the season started, Hunter should have Jerebko's spot in the rotation
 
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Gil Scott-Heroin said:
His run from 09-13 was not great, by any measurable scale.
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Well, I ain't about to unpack 4 years of basketball and this is the kind of argument that quickly descends into semantics so that's that.

He still pounds the rock - he's 5th in the league in time of possession while only producing 0.12 points per touch. That's the very definition of pounding the rock to no avail.
That's largely down to the fact he has two other shot creators (Gay and Boogie) in the starting lineup, and a minimal amount of wrinkles to open up players, which is something he's good at - getting the ball to players in a position to score. Ball movement doesn't deflate PPT to a point where a player that handles the ball more than everybody in the league, as if he's some player that doesn't get to control what happens during each possession (a bench player who has a strict role) -- and most certainly not to the degree where he only scores 0.12 per touch.
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Honestly I feel like this shyt's a red herring in how it fails to reflect what you see on the court. Dividing points scored by possessions tells you nothing about how those touches impact the game. You're essentially saying that a touch is "to no avail" if it doesn't end in a score for the person holding the ball because that is the only thing that stat infers. It's literally touches/ppg.

With the proper context (latest update) -

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He touches the ball EIGHT more times than the second ranked player (Wall), yet only averages 12.7 ppg and you're struggling to comprehend as to how this hinders a team's offense?

Actually Jack has contributed (in terms of effectiveness and efficiency) just as much to his team's offense as Wall has so far. But that's another story altogether.
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You haven't described or demonstrated any correlation between a player's total touches and a team's offense, in short, comprehend what?

Jack's trending up and as much as Wall has struggled there's no way you've watched them play and can actually believe that, but cool another story.

This is why it's important to put this into perspective, because although I don't hold it against him (said lack of depth), it certainly doesn't mean just because he's allowed to freelance that it's actually productive. You give any competent PG in the league the same amount of touches and pass/shot ratio to abide by and they'd average double digits assists, yet it wouldn't make their offense better.
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Then your complaint is aesthetic because "give somebody else the same remit and you get the same thing" certainly isn't qualitative.
Those stats aren't to paint a picture that hasn't already been painted many times throughout his career. It's just another coat, a reiteration of the effectiveness of his play. Same shyt happened in Boston, same shyt happened in Dallas. Which is why it's hard for me in part to understand why you don't see this, when we've been over this [ad nauseum] before.
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I don't buy it because you're pointing to a correlation based on a multitude of factors, then underlining one feature as if it defines everything else. If you're trying to tell me that those stats are representative of the best years of his career then you're trying to sell me a lie.

I shouldn't need to elaborate. I don't need to hold your hand to walk you through this for you to see that one of the most heralded and decorated coaches in the game was hesitant to incorporate Rondo into his system, knowing damn well that he would hurt one of the greatest offenses in modern history, through his lack of shooting/scoring and micromanaging of a team's possessions. I don't need to hold your hand for you to see that only two coaches who've been excoriated for their coaching have let Rondo do what he wants at the expense of the team's effectiveness and efficiency with no accountability. I don't need to hold your hand for you to see Doc Rivers' offenses only became great when he saw the error in his ways of not getting the main ball-handler to push the tempo and make quicker decisions with a tie in of having one of the best offensive PGs in the game (Chris Paul).
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Never needed you to hold my hand but I can't respond to a point you haven't made without putting words in your mouth. To that end chill with the hyperbole. Carlisle is a great coach, Rondo was a bad fit for a flow offense and didn't look healthy but every indicator suggests that Mavs team was due a sharp regression to the mean, their schedule was way backloaded and their lack of depth at the forward position hurt.
When exactly were the Clippers under Doc Rivers not a top ranked offense? The alterations of their play style had more to do with younger personnel, injuries and Blake's evolution as a ball handler as opposed to some revelation Doc had that you've tenuously linked to Rondo.
 
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