Random NBA Observations 2015 - 2016

[Kang Deezy]

Has @tremonthustler1 changed his stance on Lavine yet? It's impossible to not love their future

 

[threattonature]

Because Harden makes up for the points he misses/shots he wastes with his ability to get to the free throw line, which is basically winning extra shots.

Curry is already cooling off a little and both Westbrook and Harden are getting closer to his level of production. Over the last 9 games, Harden's actually scored 5 more points than Curry and has taken only 7 more shots. Curry is shooting around 49% over that span and Harden about 41%. So despite shooting a much better percentage than Harden he basically scores just as many points on virtually the same amount of shots. So while his shooting % is impressive, it does not automatically make him the more efficient player overall. FTA is one of the most underrated stats in the game.

This math is still fukked up because it's completely ignoring the number of possessions taken up. So if Curry takes say 20 shots at and makes 5 trips to the line (10FTs) to score 40 while Harden takes 20 shots and makes 10 trips to the line (20FTs) to score 40 it'll show as both scoring the same amount of points with the same amount of shots. But points per possession wise Steph still would get him because he used 25 possessions to get his 40 while Harden would have used 30 possessions which means Steph is still a good deal more efficient.

 

[Originalgangsta317]

So Chris Paul bytch ass ain't playing tonight

 

[Darealtwo1]

This math is still fukked up because it's completely ignoring the number of possessions taken up. So if Curry takes say 20 shots at and makes 5 trips to the line (10FTs) to score 40 while Harden takes 20 shots and makes 10 trips to the line (20FTs) to score 40 it'll show as both scoring the same amount of points with the same amount of shots. But points per possession wise Steph still would get him because he used 25 possessions to get his 40 while Harden would have used 30 possessions which means Steph is still a good deal more efficient.

well idk....hardens trips to the line were like mini timeouts for mchale. That was one of the main reasons why they were so successful without pat bev and dwight howard last year. Anytime the D was gassed or Kevin needed a mini timeout. He would just call "flop iso" with harden and use the time to set up the defense.

We can troll Ames Haren all day(me included) but to act like he wasn't within one shot in back to back games against the GSW is laughable with curry playing 0 defense(lawson was right..watch the games, he was chillin).

Who knows what would have happened if pat bev could have played and Dwight would have been healthy.

 

[Darealtwo1]

Curry is a true of though. One thing I hate about Bron and Russ is that they are part of the dribble, dribble, dribble, class of passers. They don't run an offense cause they don't do shyt off the ball. They constantly look for the assist instead of just running an offense and sometimes just getting rid of the ball.

It's kinda hard to explain, but I'll try. What Bron and Russ does is eat up a lot of clock looking to make a play. Let's say they run a high p&r, once they go around that pick, they will hold the ball (drib, drib, drib) if nobody is open for a score. Curry on the other hand will just get rid of it to whoever can receive the pass if he can't score. This gives the team time to make more passes, and Curry can even get it back on a cut or a spot up.

Not saying what Bron and Sabo does is bad, both of them nikkas dominate. But offenses become very stagnant with that style and teams EASILY stop that shyt in the playoffs. The proof is in the pudding. As great as Miami was, they should of NEVER had problems scoring, but that shyt Bron does can create problems, especially if dudes are not hitting their shots. Same for ONCE. You will not beat the Sparse or Warriors like that imo. We will see though

I disagree....

 

[TrillaMonsoon]

Has @tremonthustler1 changed his stance on Lavine yet? It's impossible to not love their future

He dont talk about the Wolves no more publically

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

fukk. was lookin forward to gawdside givin him that work

 

[inndaskKy]

This math is still fukked up because it's completely ignoring the number of possessions taken up. So if Curry takes say 20 shots at and makes 5 trips to the line (10FTs) to score 40 while Harden takes 20 shots and makes 10 trips to the line (20FTs) to score 40 it'll show as both scoring the same amount of points with the same amount of shots. But points per possession wise Steph still would get him because he used 25 possessions to get his 40 while Harden would have used 30 possessions which means Steph is still a good deal more efficient.

Not necessarily breh. You would need more advanced stats to prove that. Just because Curry only has 5 trips to the lines does not mean he did not have possession of the ball more times than that where he just passed the ball to another team mate who may or may not have scored off that possession. This should, however, then affect his assist numbers favorably compared to Harden but Harden averages more assists (yes, in 4 minutes extra PT so they're about equal).But even if they don´t give Curry possession of the ball those extra times, that doesn´t make him more efficient if Harden´s extra possesions are more efficient than his team mates´. Harden is almost 90% at the line which means if he doesn´t pass up his possession but drives to the lane and turns it into free throws they get 1.8 points on average off that choice. If he passes it to a team mate who´s shooting 50% they´ll get between 1 and 1.5 points on the possesion on average depending on what shot they take. Having had fewer possessions does not help your team. Creating the best possible possession for your team does.

Points per touch:
Curry: 0.367
Harden: 0.321

Neither player is 'elite' in this stat (Nick Young is above Curry for example, Kevin Durant is elite with 0.529) but it doesn't really mean much anyway. The stat doesn't take into consideration whether a player used his touches to score points for his team through an assist or setting up a play for his team mates. The Rockets' offense still relies almost completely on Harden. He needs to have the ball in order for the team to have any clue on offense. The Warriors do ok without Curry and therefore don't rely on him touching the ball as much. Has very little to do with either player's efficiency.

The point is that Harden who is in a shooting slump is still hanging with a red hot Curry in terms of overall production. That says a lot about whose game/style of play is more efficient in general. Harden in a slump is still close to the reigning MVP at his best. Curry in a slump might as well be a Lakers bench player.

 

[CarltonJunior]

To say Harden is doing anything remotely close to what Curry has been doing this season is flat out laughable. I have no idea how or why you're in the green with that kind of stanning.

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

Durant Sabo smiley

 

[FAH1223]

Caron

 

[funkee]

@ Lavine taking the last shot. It should be Wiggins or KAT

in that situation down by 3, lavine is by far the best person on that team to take the shot

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

To say Harden is doing anything remotely close to what Curry has been doing this season is flat out laughable. I have no idea how or why you're in the green with that kind of stanning.

Funny you should say that since @inndaskKy is the one that calls me 'delusional' when it comes to Harden.

 

[savage_king90]

WHITESIDE VS BOOGIE .

edit: Just took in that cousins is suspended smh

 

[We Ready]

@ Lavine taking the last shot. It should be Wiggins or KAT

I feel like he was supposed to pass the ball to Wiggins and he purposely fumbled it so all he had time for was to shoot it himself.