Random NBA Observations 2015 - 2016

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[I'm Chillin]

Where did you get these breh?

 

[Cool Hand Luka]

Anyone see Kevin Martin get 3 points last night

 

[Emoryal]

That Draymond yell is on point

 

[THEREALBRAND]

The Rockets are fighting for their playoff lives, and their defensive effort looks like they're playing a meaningless game in mid-November.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

And he was only a 6th man at Kentucky

I've heard Brandon Roy...Klay...etc

Few years from now, might be the best SG in the league.

James Harden & Klay will be his only comp, but he has more mobility/versatility than Klay.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

The Houston Rockets are 2-18 from 3 in this first half of this Pacers game.....Just ugly basketball. Good God.

 

[O.G.B]

Not only are you wrong on this (we'll get back to this soon), but you never originally mentioned it was just on points scored - you said they had similar stats - which would mean you're talking about their overall stats and not just points scored. What you're also failing to realize is that Johnson offers more to a team than just points scored. Why do you keep marginalizing this down to total points scored, when Joe can offer so much more? This is why I know you don't watch games because you use causal fan, simpleton talking points.

More garbage trying to twist the narrative, but the problem is that no matter how you try, I've already proven that your assessments were incorrect & that Joe Johnson isn't going to be a difference maker like you claimed no matter how many long winded, emotional posts you make.

Back to their scoring abilities, since the trades:

Johnson - 13.6 ppg on 53% shooting/64 TS%, 52% 3-pt shooting (3.3 attempts per game), 3.3 assists, and while he's on court the Heat have a 125 ORTG.

Martin - 5.9 ppg on 34% shooting/50 TS%, 41% 3-pt shooting (1.9 attempts per game), 0.7 assists, and while he's on court the Spurs have a 98 ORTG

You get a F for effort trying to be slick loser! You're clearly being disingenuous with these struggle metrics knowing you've been taking a major L with your flawed prognosis. However the data doesn't help your cause in anyway & makes you look more like a idiot because based on the statistics above:


Johnson - 13.6 ppg on 53% shooting/64 TS%, 52% 3-pt shooting (3.3 attempts per game), 3.3 assists, and while he's on court the Heat have a 125 ORTG.

Johnson has played ALL 14 games with the Heat @ 32 Minutes a game as a STARTER

Martin - 5.9 ppg on 34% shooting/50 TS%, 41% 3-pt shooting (1.9 attempts per game), 0.7 assists, and while he's on court the Spurs have a 98 ORTG

Martin has played 9 games (1 as a starter) with the Spurs @ 14 Minutes a game as a PRIMARY BACKUP




You ALSO know if you actually look at the entire season for both Johnson & Martin (which you are plainly attempting to exclude) and factor in their both minutes & games played, that Martin is still the more efficient player when it comes to scoring.

Your whimsical attempt to bolster these weak arguments HOWEVER makes you look funny in the light because:

If Joe Johnson is the "better player" his stats clearly don't show it & are lackluster especially when you view that Joe Johnson was/is a starter for both the Nets/Heat, has played more games than Martin (71 games to 47 for Martin) & this year is averaging 34 minutes a game while Kevin Martin is backup who has limited playing time with both the Timberwolves & Spurs @ 13.4 minutes a game.

Johnson: 12.1 Points a game @ 34 Minutes a game with 71 games ALL played (Nets/Heat) as a STARTER

Martin: 9.8 Points a game @ 20 Minutes a game with 48 (only 13 as a starter this year) games played (Timberwolves/Spurs) as a PRIMARY BACKUP

If you're too stupid to actually grasp these primary, revelant FACTS, then it's you with the problem!

The margin in their scoring efficiency, both total shots taken and 3-pt field goals can't be overstated. The Heat's offense went from one of the worst in the league to one of the best with the addition of Johnson, and although it has mostly to do with a change of scheme/pace - Johnson's scoring skillset has been an integral part. Not only has his scoring been a big factor but his playmaking has added a new dimension to Miami's offense. He can drive and dish, or he can work out the post and help run the offense. Not only isn't K-Mart equaling his scoring/efficiency output, but he's not doing all the other things Joe does on the court. This isn't even debatable as to who's the better player.

None of this bullshyt you wrote matters as Joe Johnson hasn't help the Heat at all

Do NOT come back with this nonsense of how many games the Heat have won or who they have/haven't beaten since the trade - it's completely dishonest, as a role player isn't going to be the difference between winning and losing on the regular and in the attempt of referencing what games they won/lost you leave out who performed best or what was the cause behind them losing - ya'know relative context, like I've been reiterating to you. For example, you tagged me saying the Heat lost to an above .500 team (Raptors) for your own argument, completely leaving out the fact he was their best player and the main reason(s) for why they lost was because Dragic shot poorly 5-18, Green shoot poorly 1-9, and DeRozan destroyed every matchup he had. It wasn't because of Johnson who had 28 points on 52% shooting and 5 assists.

But that's not what you wrote previously:

Joe Johnson is just what this Heat team were missing.

Since Johnson trade -

7-2 record
111.9 ORTG (4th equal with Cavs - it'll be even better after this game)
58.5 TS% (1st)
52.5 eFG% (2nd)

He's averaging 16 ppg on 57% shooting, 58% 3-pt shooting on three attempts and three assists + he's making @O.G.B look more stupid with each passing game.

Which is why I don't understand you bringing up what games the Heat win or lose (the fact they have a better record since the trade aside), Johnson is a role player at this point of his career; he's not going to make a great difference in their chances of winning. Why you'd even bring this up when K-Mart is less of a factor in teams winning games, I don't know.

Because Jill, we have to look at the totality of his contribution to the Heat & if he's actually making a difference when it comes to winning, which is what counts ( and you have clearly stated in your quotes that Johnson is making that difference when it's quite obvious he's not) You don't want to revisit & seek to ignore these analytics because it completely debunks your defective hypothesis.

Miami before Joe Johnson's first game for the Heat (2/28/2016 vs NY) was ranked 3rd in the Eastern Con & is now currently 5th in the Eastern Con

Miami has played 13 teams during this stretch with Joe Johnson

Miami with Joe Johnson is now 9 - 4

8 wins against all .500 or below teams: (Miami has won 8 games against shytty teams .500 or under which they would/could have won without Johnson)
NY
CHI (without Jimmy Butler)
PHX
The 76's back to back
CHI (No Jimmy Butler or D. Rose)
Denver
New Orleans

0-1 against .500 or below teams:
Lost to Milwaukee (11th Place in Con)

1- 3 against above 0.500 teams:
Lost to Toronto (2nd in Eastern Con)
Lost to Charlotte (6th in Eastern Con)
Lost to San Antonio (2nd in Western Con)

Win against Cleveland (1st in Eastern Con) even though prior to the arrival of Joe Johnson, the Heat were already 3-0 vs Cleveland at home since LeBron left Miami

Also if you really could back up your arguments legitimately & effectively & you were actually correct beyond a shadow of a doubt, then there would be no need to keep negging me behind the scenes, now would it Jill?


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Given: Yesterday at 12:35 AM
Gil Scott-Heroin

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Given: Mar 10, 2016
Gil Scott-Heroin

Not only do the stats show he's a better player (see above), but if you actually bothered to watch games in see what he can provide on court, and not just go quoting points scored, you'd see for yourself. I feel sorry for you that you even think this is even debatable to begin with. I don't believe you're this stupid, I just think you're unwillingly to admit you fukked up in the first place by calling K-Mart a better player (hence all these stupid ass talking points you bring up).

Sorry, but the stats don't lie & they clearly show Martin is actually the better player at his primary skill set scoring wise than Johnson. And all of the other intangibles outside of scoring that Joe Johnson supposedly possess isn't actually showing up when it counts or helping the Heat win against quality teams which is what ultimately matters come playoff time. And the only one bring up asinine pre-school 'talking points" are you because watching games doesn't change the overall results or data on how poor Johnson is really performing when taking all of his numbers into totality.

But of course you know this, which is why another one of your quotes below states what I've been mentioning & right about from the beginning. Funny you highlight Johnson's scoring only & don't mention about these other great skills or attributes Johnson can bring to the Heat like you do continuously in the majority of all your other posts.

While the Heat would benefit from his shooting, do they really need another slow pace player when they function better pushing the pace? Especially with Dragic, he needs players that run the break and move early in the shot clock. I mean yeah having Johnson is better than not having him, I just don't know if this really benefits them in the grand scheme of things.

In closing your ceaseless, moronic rants hold no merit nor do they help you wriggle out of this defeat you've been handed.

 

[LezJepzin]

Kings just match up well against Dallas .


Boogie and WCS are going to be the best frontcourt duo in the league next season

 

[Kang Deezy]

I don't think they're ready to give up on Len yet.He's another frustrating player, but he shows flashes of being a very good C.He went on like a 3 week run averaging 20 & 13.Dude just has to hit the weight room and work on his skyhook.Could average 20 & 10 easy.

Embiid might be damaged goods.I'd trade Knight straight up for him if I could.Probably throw in a lottery protected first rd pick, to.Just to see if the 6er's would bite on it.

bet you would

knight is garbage

 

[DoubleJ13]

Pacer announcer has called KJ McDaniels a shooter about 4 times now & it hasn't been true either time he has said it

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

Pacer announcer has called KJ McDaniels a shooter about 4 times now & it hasn't been true either time he has said it

Noticing KJ has been getting minutes tonight....Has this been normal recently. I know he's been rotting on the bench since Philly traded him.

 

[DoubleJ13]

Noticing KJ has been getting minutes tonight....Has this been normal recently. I know he's been rotting on the bench since Philly traded him.

Seems to still be a who knows if he plays game to game thing from what I've seen

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

Rockets offense has been terrible

At some point when you're shooting 20 percent from 3 and taking 30 plus 3s maybe the coaching staff should draw up something other than a 3. At some point if you can't make a shot the analytics don't matter.

That's not even including the fact that they refuse to defensive rebound.

 

[I'm Chillin]

What the fukk was James harden doing on that last shot