Random NBA Observations 2014 - 2015

[FreshFromATL]

I think the Hawks are this season's Phoenix Suns. They have a good system under a good coach but I don't think they'll have enough manpower to overcome great talents. I can be proven wrong though

shut the fukk up man

 

[charmander]

I think the Hawks are this season's Phoenix Suns. They have a good system under a good coach but I don't think they'll have enough manpower to overcome great talents. I can be proven wrong though

what

 

[Regular_P]

Nah, Lowry and Wall have been playing just as well. Lowry has actually had a better season than him so far. You could make an argument for Wall too.

It's certainly not clear cut.

He's definitely in the conversation in terms of performance this season, but Westbrook, Curry and Paul are the only PGs in the league that are definitively top 5 PGs, everyone else basically needs to show over a extended period of time. Can't be crowning dudes after only 30-odd games.

Lowry and Wall don't have Lillard's range. That's part of what sets Lillard apart from the other PGs in the conversation.

Lillard also has another gear he can kick it into that only Curry and Westbrook can match.

I'm not knocking those other guys; Lillard's just that good right now.

We'll revisit this in May.

 

[CarltonJunior]

That's just how I feel brehs

It happens to all the teams that lack superstars. They play good, unselfish basketball but then fall short to the teams that do have one. The only teams that got away with it are the Spurs and the '04 Pistons.

edit: The reason I compared them to the Suns btw is because last year they was a surprise team and every game they won it was like "so you gonna take us serious now"

 

[BlackMajik]

That's just how I feel brehs

It happens to all the teams that lack superstars. They play good, unselfish basketball but then fall short to the teams that do have one. The only teams that got away with it are the Spurs and the '04 Pistons.

The Spurs lacked superstars?????

Go sit in a corner somewhere

immediately

 

[CarltonJunior]

The Spurs lacked superstars?????

Go sit in a corner somewhere

immediately

When I say superstars I'm referring to guys like KD, Kobe, LeBron, you know, MVP players/candidates. I'm sure you know what I meant

 

[BlackMajik]

When I say superstars I'm referring to guys like KD, Kobe, LeBron, you know, MVP players/candidates. I'm sure you know what I meant

Again sit in the corner

NOW

 

[threattonature]

Lowry and Wall don't have Lillard's range. That's part of what sets Lillard apart from the other PGs in the conversation.

Lillard also has another gear he can kick it into that only Curry and Westbrook can match.

I'm not knocking those other guys; Lillard's just that good right now.

We'll revisit this in May.

Lillard has more range but not the playmaking ability and the ability of setting up teammates that Wall and Lowry have at the moment not to mention they both are much better defenders. That's really the main thing holding Lillard back is he's not defensively on the level of some of the other top PGs.

 

[CarltonJunior]

Again sit in the corner

NOW

sorry i hurt your feelings breh

 

[threattonature]

The Spurs lacked superstars?????

Go sit in a corner somewhere

immediately

I agree if he's referring to the Spurs of the last two years. They don't have the one player you just have to gameplan to stop from killing you game to game. Their system is the superstar. If he's talking about the years before then he's smoking some good shyt not considering Duncan a superstar.

 

[charmander]

When I say superstars I'm referring to guys like KD, Kobe, LeBron, you know, MVP players/candidates. I'm sure you know what I meant

so you mean the most popular players basically spurs got 3 hall of famers on their roster and a fringe superstar with kawhi, who gives a fukk about who sells the most shoes or jerseys

and kobe kd lebron ain't winning shyt this year, so who better to do it

 

[Regular_P]

Lillard has more range but not the playmaking ability and the ability of setting up teammates that Wall and Lowry have at the moment not to mention they both are much better defenders. That's really the main thing holding Lillard back is he's not defensively on the level of some of the other top PGs.

And those two can't score like Lillard. His range opens up the floor for everybody else too. Eight point deficits turn into one point leads in a minute with that guy.

I'll give you the defense argument, but really, none of these guys are stopping one another.

 

[CarltonJunior]

I agree if he's referring to the Spurs of the last two years. They don't have the one player you just have to gameplan to stop from killing you game to game. Their system is the superstar. If he's talking about the years before then he's smoking some good shyt not considering Duncan a superstar.

Most definitely what I meant.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Lowry and Wall don't have Lillard's range. That's part of what sets Lillard apart from the other PGs in the conversation..

Oh absolutely no doubt. That's not even arguable.

But what the lack in shooting range, they make up for it in driving ability, keeping the defense on the back foot, passing/playmaking and defense. Which aren't exactly Lillard's strongest attributes.

Plus Lowry does so much shyt for the Raptors, that a box score couldn't even begin to reflect his impact.

Lillard also has another gear he can kick it into that only Curry and Westbrook can match.

If you're talking about clutch ability, you can add Irving and Paul to that group - as both of them have been the best in the league in that regard for the last three seasons. And just a notch below you have Lowry, Wall and Conley, who have had success carrying their team late-in-games this season too.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

And those two can't score like Lillard. His range opens up the floor for everybody else too.

I'll give you the defense argument, but really, none of these guys are stopping one another.

Lowry can