Random College Basketball Thoughts: 2018-19

Who you got for player of the year?

  • R.J. Barrett

  • Luke Maye

  • Carsen Edwards

  • Zion Williamson

  • Tyus Battle

  • Ethan Happ

  • Romeo Langford

  • Reid Travis

  • Tremont Waters

  • Cam Reddish

  • Other (Post your choice)


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I mean, he's generally more skilled/athletic than him, but the Julius Randle comparisons have been layered over and over for a reason. He plays exactly like him (well, exactly like Julius thinks he plays). At his height, I'm not sure if that's going to translate over to the league.

Nah

Julius faceup game ain’t look like this

Zion is also on another planet athletically. Even if they did play alike, wouldn’t even matter cuz Zion has goat level athleticism
 

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I mean, he's generally more skilled/athletic than him, but the Julius Randle comparisons have been layered over and over for a reason. He plays exactly like him (well, exactly like Julius thinks he plays). At his height, I'm not sure if that's going to translate over to the league.
He's much more skilled than Randle though and even bigger/stronger. Randle can't jump anywhere close to Zion either.

Dunno how Zion's shooting will look over the course of this season, but Randle still can't knock down jumpers with any consistency.
 

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I mean, he's generally more skilled/athletic than him, but the Julius Randle comparisons have been layered over and over for a reason. He plays exactly like him (well, exactly like Julius thinks he plays). At his height, I'm not sure if that's going to translate over to the league.
Nah


He can actually shoot and is more willing

Zion is actually not a bull in a china shop either. And he has a much better handle.

Zions getting maybe an inch or 2 taller and slimming up is literally all he has to do. Randle wishes he played like Zion

Zion did an in and out hesi and pulled up at the key and hit bottom. He shot FT's better than RJ did. Zion can hit the shot
 

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Nah

Julius faceup game ain’t look like this

Zion is also on another planet athletically. Even if they did play alike, wouldn’t even matter cuz Zion has goat level athleticism
His athleticism is other worldly. That play where he faked left at the three point line, took one dribble then exploded for a dunk shouldn't be possible at his size.
 
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faster, bigger, and more explosive version of randle would wreck the league :yeshrug:
He weighs more than Julius, but he's not bigger in terms of height, which is going to be a problem once he slims down in preperation for the league. Bully ball ain't gonna work at his height.
as long as he stays explosive like that i think he will be fine. if he develops a deadly Js then he can be modern day charles
The age-old if he develops a jumpshot argument. There's no point in bringing that up until he does, otherwise, it's just an empty talking point.
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Julius faceup game ain’t look like this

Zion is also on another planet athletically. Even if they did play alike, wouldn’t even matter cuz Zion has goat level athleticism
What use will his athleticism be if he can't find a suitable position to play at? At his height, he's not going to be able to play the position [the 4] which his game fits the most. His handle isn't at a level where he can break down NBA-caliber wing defenders either, and I don't think it ever will be in time for the league, because he's dominating this level of comp through sheer athleticism and size - there isn't really going to be an opportunity for him to develop that part of his game. Unless he hits another growth spurt, his success is gonna be determined by the growth of his perimeter game.

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He's much more skilled than Randle though and even bigger/stronger. Randle can't jump anywhere close to Zion either.

Dunno how Zion's shooting will look over the course of this season, but Randle still can't knock down jumpers with any consistency.
That's all well and good, but that's not going to help him when he's struggling to find a position to play at. I mean, at least Ben Simmons has his height to fall back on (which gives him defensive value), but I fear Zion might follow down that same offensive path once he gets into the league.
 

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That's all well and good, but that's not going to help him when he's struggling to find a position to play at. I mean, at least Ben Simmons has his height to fall back on (that gives him defensive value), but I fear Zion might follow down that same offensive path once he gets into the league.
With his size, quickness and skill, I think he'll figure it out. Look how successful Blake has been in the league with alligator arms. Zion's a little shorter, but any even bigger freak athlete.
 

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He weighs more than Julius, but he's not bigger in terms of height, which is going to be a problem once he slims down in preperation for the league. Bully ball ain't gonna work at his height.

The age-old if he develops a jumpshot argument. There's no point in bringing that up until he does, otherwise, it's just an empty talking point.

What use will his athleticism be if he can't find a suitable position to play at? At his height, he's not going to be able to play the position [the 4] which his game fits the most. His handle isn't at a level where he can break down NBA-caliber wing defenders either, and I don't think it ever will be in time for the league, because he's dominating this level of comp through sheer athleticism and size - there isn't really going to be an opportunity for him to develop that part of his game. Unless he hits another growth spurt, his success is gonna be determined by the growth of his perimeter game.

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He doesn't play bully ball though

He legit was being guarded by taller dudes and hitting them with MOVES.

Whether facing up, posting up, etc., he hit them with powerful and yet finesse moves.

He's blowing by bigger dudes and bodying smaller ones (Kentucky didn't dare put a small nikka on him). You rarely saw him doing bully ball shyt., dude was playing like a guard. He was even running the point. nikkas been saying this shyt "He not gonna be able to do this in college"... now look. Now it's "He's not gonna be able to do that in the NBA..." You got nikkas in the NBA right now that can't do the shyt Zion can do. Physically or skillfully
 

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I mean, he's generally more skilled/athletic than him, but the Julius Randle comparisons have been layered over and over for a reason. He plays exactly like him (well, exactly like Julius thinks he plays). At his height, I'm not sure if that's going to translate over to the league.
He does play like Randle who plays like Barkley. If Randle is poor man's Barkley, is Zion potentially the rich man's Barkley?
 

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He doesn't play bully ball though

He legit was being guarded by taller dudes and hitting them with MOVES.

Whether facing up, posting up, etc., he hit them with powerful and yet finesse moves.

He's blowing by bigger dudes and bodying smaller ones (Kentucky didn't dare put a small nikka on him). You rarely saw him doing bully ball shyt., dude was playing like a guard. He was even running the point. nikkas been saying this shyt "He not gonna be able to do this in college"... now look. Now it's "He's not gonna be able to do that in the NBA..." You got nikkas in the NBA right now that can't do the shyt Zion can do. Physically or skillfully
He does play some bully ball but Randle is not athletic enough to not play bully ball. Zion can do what he wants. Like someone said, he drives to the hoop like Westbrook but much much bigger.

That's all well and good, but that's not going to help him when he's struggling to find a position to play at. I mean, at least Ben Simmons has his height to fall back on (which gives him defensive value), but I fear Zion might follow down that same offensive path once he gets into the league.

Zion is my #1 prospect but I agree. What's his NBA position in the modern NBA. I came to realization that maybe he needs to be used like Marvin Bagley. As a 6th man in year 1. Year 2, as a small ball 5 and 6th man. Year 4 is when I would start to look at him as a starter. Him and Harden as well as Bagley need to be as polished as they can to start. At this stage, I have Zion as a 6th man but I have R.J. as a Day 1 starter. I have Cam as a potential NBA starter. Same for Langsford and Grimes. Not sure on Little. I need to see more of him in the NCAAs.
 

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He does play some bully ball but Randle is not athletic enough to not play bully ball. Zion can do what he wants. Like someone said, he drives to the hoop like Westbrook but much much bigger.
Sometimes but it's not the only way he scores, and he doesn't play bullyball as much as people are trying to make it seem

They play where he inhaled KU Centers shot, pushed the ball, hit RJ for a bounce pass is common Zion shyt... EVERY GAME.

He was in the post only like 3/4 times in this game and nobody could stop him. But then, he was running on the breaks, hustling, getting putbacks, hesi crossing nikkas, hitting jumpers, etc.


I want him to get taller too and he will, he was just listed as 6'6. He's at 6'7 now, will probably be 6'8 by the draft or by next year.

He can play SF in the league now and be cool. These nikkas might be taller but no way are they as quick and strong. He will have to rely on his shot more and he will. If he can get to 6'9 he can play PF in todays NBA. Hell, he could play now, he's taller and heavier than Barkley was and twice as athletic
 

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Sometimes but it's not the only way he scores, and he doesn't play bullyball as much as people are trying to make it seem

They play where he inhaled KU Centers shot, pushed the ball, hit RJ for a bounce pass is common Zion shyt... EVERY GAME.

He was in the post only like 3/4 times in this game and nobody could stop him. But then, he was running on the breaks, hustling, getting putbacks, hesi crossing nikkas, hitting jumpers, etc.


I want him to get taller too and he will, he was just listed as 6'6. He's at 6'7 now, will probably be 6'8 by the draft or by next year.

He can play SF in the league now and be cool. These nikkas might be taller but no way are they as quick and strong. He will have to rely on his shot more and he will. If he can get to 6'9 he can play PF in todays NBA. Hell, he could play now, he's taller and heavier than Barkley was and twice as athletic
He is not a 3 or 4. Zion is a 5 who has offensive skills to play point forward. But he is way too small to play 5 even if he has the width. I am a believer that he will always be a defensive liability but his stats will look good on both sides of the court. He is fine for college 5. I had no doubt about that from the jump.
 
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He doesn't play bully ball though
Except he does, the only difference is, he can blur that line against inferior athletes (it's the reason why being so left-hand dominant isn't limiting his impact). As is, he doesn't have the size/skillset to break down NBA caliber defenders, which is why there's no use in bringing up what he does against smaller or taller players, when it's simply his athleticism that's allowing him to play like this. Which in theory would be fine if he was 6'10", but he's 3-4 inches from that, and with his style of play and lack of perimeter game, it's not exactly a recipe for NBA stardom.
 
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