Random College Basketball Thoughts: 2016-17

[Anerdyblackguy]

Heard about that... yikes. He's like 24 now too. Doubt NCAA gives him another year but you never know.

Damn, his CBB career is over.

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

Don't say that!

Sorry B

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

All those cats left Dook with whatever they came there with. When I think of development, I think of a fat kid in Sean May developing into an unstoppable force that put the team on his back for a chip, I think of a "hustle" kid in Hansbrough becoming the ACC all time leading scorer, I think of John Henson developing from a bean pole foul machine into a 1st rounder, I think of Brice Johnson developing into an All American, I think of Kennedy Meeks working on his body and now having the best year of his career, or even guys like Joel James who played all of 2 semesters of basketball before showing up at Chapel Hill and becoming serviceable. Zubeck never materialized, Amil on his 5th year, Chase still looks lost, Sean Obi was a freshman all C-USA player and now he's bum status, and Bolden seems to be following the same program. Dook recruits all 5*'s, so pointing to players making or doing ok in the league isn't the end all be all to what Dook's development of bigs is.

Lol ignored. Youre a carolina fan

 

[Champ_KW]

Lol ignored. Youre a carolina fan

fair enough

 

[Jemmy]

Damn, his CBB career is over.

Damn that sucks. They get Kaleb Joseph next year but who knows with him. Mussini torched him when he was on Syracuse last year.

 

[Jemmy]

fair enough

What happened to the Duke kid that Coach K just refused to play and now he's prospering at SMU? Duke could've used him this season

 

[Champ_KW]

What happened to the Duke kid that Coach K just refused to play and now he's prospering at SMU? Duke could've used him this season

Semi Ojeleye. People don't want to believe that K and his staff are struggling in the development department. He's running a NBA pit stop program for 5 stars like Cal.

 

[str8up]

Semi Ojeleye. People don't want to believe that K and his staff are struggling in the development department. He's running a NBA pit stop program for 5 stars like Cal.

I agree that they're definitely struggling but I suppose the one good thing about Duke and Kentucky is that it allows guys to go against other top talent daily. You see the Hamidou Diallo situation, he could have easily went to UConn or Syracuse but he chose Kentucky. Coach K and Cal know that all these guys are going straight to the draft so they don't need to bother developing them.

I do think Duke is struggling a bit more though because at least when guys stay at Kentucky the typically show some improvement where as guys at Duke aren't as much.

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

I agree that they're definitely struggling but I suppose the one good thing about Duke and Kentucky is that it allows guys to go against other top talent daily. You see the Hamidou Diallo situation, he could have easily went to UConn or Syracuse but he chose Kentucky. Coach K and Cal know that all these guys are going straight to the draft so they don't need to bother developing them.

I do think Duke is struggling a bit more though because at least when guys stay at Kentucky the typically show some improvement where as guys at Duke aren't as much.

Did you not see what Coach K did with Ingram last year?

 

[Champ_KW]

Did you not see what Coach K did with Ingram last year?

Hahaha......what did he do? Ingram needed about 7 games to get acclimated and took off. Season still yielded 10 losses with 5 Burger Boys.

 

[str8up]

Did you not see what Coach K did with Ingram last year?

If developing = giving more playing time then yes. There wasn't much, if anything, that I saw from Ingram at Duke that I hadn't already seen or expected to.

He was just a really good player, and a match up nightmare on the college level, you could barely contest his shots, let alone block him.

Even then he struggled a little at first, it took until the Indiana game for him to really get going.

So whatever he did with Ingram, why couldn't he do something similar with Chase Jeter?

 

[Flight]

If developing = giving more playing time then yes. There wasn't much, if anything, that I saw from Ingram at Duke that I hadn't already seen or expected to.

He was just a really good player, and a match up nightmare on the college level, you could barely contest his shots, let alone block him.

Even then he struggled a little at first, it took until the Indiana game for him to really get going.

So whatever he did with Ingram, why couldn't he do something similar with Chase Jeter?

To be fair he moved Ingram to the 4 & let him cook there. Even put him as a secondary handler at times.

 

[str8up]

To be fair he moved Ingram to the 4 & let him cook there. Even put him as a secondary handler at times.

Playing the 4 was more out of necessity with Amile going down. At times he looked good but it was really obvious he wasn't ready physically to guard the interior, even on the college level. His length bailed him out quite a few times.

You could say the same thing about him on the offensive end too though, his length bailed him out a lot, and the lack of strength/weight hurt his post game.

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

Hahaha......what did he do? Ingram needed about 7 games to get acclimated and took off. Season still yielded 10 losses with 5 Burger Boys.

7 gsmes? The fukk outta here. He didnt really take off until conference season. A 10 loss team bc on an injured amile that Still made the sweet 16. fukk outta here

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

If developing = giving more playing time then yes. There wasn't much, if anything, that I saw from Ingram at Duke that I hadn't already seen or expected to.

He was just a really good player, and a match up nightmare on the college level, you could barely contest his shots, let alone block him.

Even then he struggled a little at first, it took until the Indiana game for him to really get going.

So whatever he did with Ingram, why couldn't he do something similar with Chase Jeter?

Big men develop slowly lmao. Take a look at carolina. It takes them years to develop their players. People act like duke is the only school where 1 and done players struggle. Ingram came in as a mid 1st round project and left Duke a top 3 pick. Its a FACT coach k is the best small forward coach in the country, and it isnt even close. So he can develop players. He just foesnt have patience enough to give big men enough time to develop early on.