Rand Paul reaches out to African-Americans

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regardless of what you nikkas are saying NONE of your favorite democrat politicians are doing any of this. Talking about these issues is ALWAYS a good thing, regardless of the outcome. But it appears most black democrats are too busy worrying about gay rights to be concerned about dealing with the injustices facing the black community that Paul is alluding too.
Well.....




If you pay attention... all these nikka care about is gay rights, animal rights, environmental rights, liberal agendas, defending Zionism, and so called 'minority' rights.


That last one is the worst thing for us.... even more damaging than Zionism.
 

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Hes not tom...


The Civil rights movement was very weak to different people for different reasons... some conservatives feel that it violates certain roles of government... some cacs are just racist... some pro black people feel like it was a high level trap that sedated our people into feeling included while the real results were greater breakdown of unity, less black family structure, social programs that leave communities in a state of dependency, integration, allows Americans to pretend we aren't institutionalizing white supremacy, blacks beggin to sit a tables instead of creating our own, permanent slave mentality, etc.
There is a reason the civil rights movement was some fake shyt.... ask assata shakur.

Besides, we cant be so fearful of racist that we reject goos ideas... I don't disagree w what paul said about drugs or justice..

Life was just so great for blacks during Jim Crow when for instance we paid taxes that went to build interstate highways which allowed interstate hotels to thrive, but we couldn't even use those hotels.
 

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Life was just so great for blacks during Jim Crow when for instance we paid taxes that went to build interstate highways which allowed interstate hotels to thrive, but we couldn't even use those hotels.
Life wasn't great... but we were building something... we gave it up for a false sense of accomplishment. Its sad really.
 

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Life wasn't great... but we were building something... we gave it up for a false sense of accomplishment. Its sad really.

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Some of ya'll are really delusional or have a shallow understanding of American History. For 150 years after reconstruction, blacks were relegated to the margins of American society. How much could they accomplish with the boot of their de jure and de facto segregation on their necks?

Most blacks were relegated to making a living as domestic workers, rural share croppers or low level factory workers for over a century and half without access to social mobility. We didn't even have the full fundamental right of freedom of movement; as blacks couldn't choose where to live.

Why do you think cacs fought so hard for 150 to maintain the status quo? Why do you think they reminisce about the good old days?

You can't be serious right now.
 

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Some of ya'll are really delusional or have a shallow understanding of American History. For 150 years after reconstruction, blacks were relegated to the margins of American society. How much could they accomplish with the boot of their de jure and de facto segregation on their necks?

Most blacks were relegated to making a living as domestic workers, rural share croppers or low level factory workers for over a century and half without access to social mobility. We didn't even have the full fundamental right of freedom of movement; as blacks couldn't choose where to live.

Why do you think cacs fought so hard for 150 to maintain the status quo? Why do you think they reminisce about the good old days?

You can't be serious right now.
My granddad fought in WW2 (European campaign).
When they came home, the white soldiers were feted like heroes with parades while the black ones were quietly ignored (most of them returned to second-class status in the Jim Crow South).
The military was segregated back then, so when they docked at US harbors the white soldiers descended thru the main gates to adoring crowds while the black soldiers left thru the backdoor.
The administration of the GI Bill was also discriminatory: white soldiers got free education, military promotions, housing deals, loans, etc but black soldiers were largely ignored (they had to find service or janitorial jobs).

My granddad left the South shortly after his return.
Every time I asked him why he was willing to fight for euros' freedom while he didn't get it at home, he simply said it was a way to improve himself and our future generations.
I still don't get it... He was probably a better man than I am. :manny:

As for the Civil Rights Act, there's a reason why black folks deserted the GOP...
Jackie Robinson and Nixon: Life and Death of a Political Friendship

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Here in Yankee Stadium’s locker room after Game 5 of the 1952 World Series, Senator Richard Nixon of California, Republican nominee for vice president, congratulates Jackie Robinson on the Brooklyn Dodgers’ 6-5 win over the Yankees. (The Dodgers ultimately lost in seven games.)

In 1960, Robinson endorsed Nixon for president, declaring that the civil rights commitment of Nixon’s Democratic rival, John F. Kennedy, was “insincere.” In those times, an African-American Republican was by no means unusual. About 39 percent of black voters had supported the re-election of President Dwight Eisenhower and his vice president.

Then, in October 1960, Martin Luther King Jr. was jailed in Georgia on a trumped-up charge. Kennedy made a much-heralded telephone call to King’s wife, Coretta, which helped to get King released. Declining Robinson’s insistence that he intervene in the case, Nixon told him that Kennedy had opportunistically made “what our good friend Joe Louis called a ‘grandstand play.'”

Jackie withstood intense pressure — including from his wife, Rachel — to follow King’s father in switching from Nixon to Kennedy; he later wrote that his decision had “something to do with stubbornness.” As a result, a ballplayer who had withstood death threats in 1947 to break the major leagues’ color barrier was denounced as a “sellout” and “Uncle Tom.” That November, Nixon won only a third of the African-American vote, a crucial factor in his hairbreadth defeat.

Although Presidents Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson championed what became the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Robinson quit his executive job at Chock Full o’Nuts that spring to campaign for Gov. Nelson Rockefeller of New York, a Republican, explaining that “we must work for a two-party system, as far as the Negro is concerned.”

But Republicans nominated Barry Goldwater, who opposed the 1964 legislation as unconstitutional. When Rockefeller denounced political extremism at the party’s San Francisco convention, Robinson, a “special delegate,” shouted, “C’mon, Rocky!” As Robinson recalled, an Alabama delegate “turned on me menacingly” before “his wife grabbed his arm and turned him back.”

Spoiling for a fight, Jackie cried, “Turn him loose, lady, turn him loose!” He later wrote with uncharacteristic overstatement that on leaving San Francisco, “I had a better understanding of how it must have felt to be a Jew in Hitler’s Germany.”

That fall, Robinson joined the 94 percent of the African-American electorate that backed President Johnson. (Since then, the percentage of the black vote for Democratic presidential nominees has never dipped below the low 80s.) In 1968, furious over Nixon’s courtship of Senator Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, who had once led the segregationist “Dixiecrats,” Jackie backed the Democratic nominee, Hubert Humphrey.

Jackie Robinson died of a heart attack at age 53, two weeks before the 1972 election. Although President Nixon’s civil rights record was considerably stronger (especially on public schools desegregation) than many understood, he was eager that year to carry the five Southern states that had supported George Wallace’s third-party candidacy in 1968; Nixon felt he had little chance to regain much of the African-American vote.

That March, Robinson, ailing and tired, complained to President Nixon by letter that he was “polarizing this country.” No longer the political optimist of his earlier years, he poignantly wrote his onetime friend, “I want so much to be a part of and to love this country as I once did.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/07/u...e-and-death-of-a-political-friendship.html?hp
The funny part is how some republicans are trying to claim him and MLK today :russ:
The GOP black vote went from 32% for Nixon in 1960 to 4% for Goldwater in 1964 (same year the Civil Rights Act was passed and the GOP won MS, AL, SC, LA and GA for the first time since Reconstruction)
 

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Some of ya'll are really delusional or have a shallow understanding of American History. For 150 years after reconstruction, blacks were relegated to the margins of American society. How much could they accomplish with the boot of their de jure and de facto segregation on their necks?

Most blacks were relegated to making a living as domestic workers, rural share croppers or low level factory workers for over a century and half without access to social mobility. We didn't even have the full fundamental right of freedom of movement; as blacks couldn't choose where to live.

Why do you think cacs fought so hard for 150 to maintain the status quo? Why do you think they reminisce about the good old days?

You can't be serious right now.
Im not saying tha we shouldn't have fought to change the status quo. That part was obvious.
 

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WORD.

WE DIDNT PUT UP A FIGHT ... WE PUT UP A WHITE FLAG to appease white people enough so they can at least pretend that we will institutionally be treated as humans.

But honestly we fought for civil rights when we should have strived for human rights... we gave up ourselves for the chance that five percent of us could maybe 'make it' aka be accepted by the mainstream society.... we are ok with prisons being used as a chattel replacement program and our conditions and mentality downgrading for our masses.
Plus , We actually love the social programs that kept us dependant.... shyt I hope that's not our nature, cuz the African leaders have done the same shyt on a larger scale.
 

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You can't be serious right now.
you haven't noticed that its mostly non black posters that dap these post? I noticed it on sohh when I made post like it.. very suspicious to me. Non black people love to romanticize civil rights and the resulting conditions of our communities....
 

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segregation, and jim crow were good...


I can't imagine our peers from that time period agreeing with us.
 

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you haven't noticed that its mostly non black posters that dap these post? I noticed it on sohh when I made post like it.. very suspicious to me. Non black people love to romanticize civil rights and the resulting conditions of our communities....

I'm not really going to go back and forth with you guys on which was better: The Jim Crow South or Today. I just don't have the energy.
 

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I'm not really going to go back and forth with you guys on which was better: The Jim Crow South or Today. I just don't have the energy.
Nobody said that we should romantize either.... but there were things we gave up.
 

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Some of ya'll are really delusional or have a shallow understanding of American History. For 150 years after reconstruction, blacks were relegated to the margins of American society. How much could they accomplish with the boot of their de jure and de facto segregation on their necks?

Most blacks were relegated to making a living as domestic workers, rural share croppers or low level factory workers for over a century and half without access to social mobility. We didn't even have the full fundamental right of freedom of movement; as blacks couldn't choose where to live.

Why do you think cacs fought so hard for 150 to maintain the status quo? Why do you think they reminisce about the good old days?

You can't be serious right now.
Rely on a historically racist government to fix your problems brehs.....
 
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