Raekwon Details Why He Doesn't Consider 'Wu-Tang Forever' a Classic (Part 13)

Alvin

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WTF is Vlad talking about?

“a lot of people didn’t like that album. A lot of people thought half of it was trash”

he’s just making that shyt up. I’ve seen almost every bad take in the world and I don’t think I’ve heard that one. That’s not even how critics of that album criticize it.

:why:
People didn't think it was hard compared to 36 Chambers, same with Nas and IWW from illmatic, they changed their sound.
 

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I been saying that shyt for years Wu-forever is like a decent compilation

nikkas was expecting cuban link + liquid swords + ironman + 36 chambers pt2 and got some other shyt that was half phoned in

RZA was experimenting when he should have been solidifying

Wu-forever is a album you do 5 albums in from interviews over the years like half the clan don't really fukk with that album like that

if the album was what it should have been Wu would be a lot bigger today (musically)
 

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People didn't think it was hard compared to 36 Chambers, same with Nas and IWW from illmatic, they changed their sound.
I feel you on that, but I was making a specific comment addressing Vlad’s framing of people saying half the album was trash and half wasn’t. Maybe my memory is just trash, but I don’t really remember anyone acting like half of Forever is garbage. I did always think disc 1 was a little better than disc 2, but I never heard anyone say disc 2 was trash.
 

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I been saying that shyt for years Wu-forever is like a decent compilation

nikkas was expecting cuban link + liquid swords + ironman + 36 chambers pt2 and got some other shyt that was half phoned in

RZA was experimenting when he should have been solidifying

Wu-forever is a album you do 5 albums in from interviews over the years like half the clan don't really fukk with that album like that

if the album was what it should have been Wu would be a lot bigger today (musically)
I think it was maybe a mistake to do a double album. I’d almost argue that any double album from a 10 person group almost can’t sound like a compilation album to some degree. That’s just way too many songs with way too many voices for it to sound super tight and cohesive.
 

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I feel you on that, but I was making a specific comment addressing Vlad’s framing of people saying half the album was trash and half wasn’t. Maybe my memory is just trash, but I don’t really remember anyone acting like half of Forever is garbage. I did always think disc 1 was a little better than disc 2, but I never heard anyone say disc 2 was trash.
ah I see, I thought he meant half the people liked it and the other half hated it. Only issue with disc 2 is Black Shampoo is on it lol.
 

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I think it was maybe a mistake to do a double album. I’d almost argue that any double album from a 10 person group almost can’t sound like a compilation album to some degree. That’s just way too many songs with way too many voices for it to sound super tight and cohesive.
Raekwon said the issue not everyone was there and on the same page like 36 chambers. If everyone was tuned in like they were on 36 chambers it would've sounded more complete. GZA was only on handful of songs which I hate.
 

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WTF is Vlad talking about?

“a lot of people didn’t like that album. A lot of people thought half of it was trash”

he’s just making that shyt up. I’ve seen almost every bad take in the world and I don’t think I’ve heard that one. That’s not even how haters of that Forever hate on it.

:why:

vlad never knows what he's talking about...he just reading bullets from some intern
 
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