Racists already mad on Twitter due to commercials

[Blackking]

Is that true @Blackking

I would guess that the person who said that is very ignorant.

Black people in Detroit are diverse but being 'pussified' isn't a typical Detroiter quality intellectually, physically, or in any other way. I'm not even sure that many of our cac and asians are that way either.

however, @theworldismine13 is a fakkit and other posters have already dealt with him in here.

 

[theworldismine13]

I did, and it doesn't back up what you're saying. You've already been told that the relevant divide is ethnic/historical, and that language is a minor subset of that. That point was even proven with stats, including those you alluded to yourself. You're just being obstinate at this point.

the article clearly backs up everything i said, it even delves into the possibility that some canadian provinces might become american states

Language Again Threatening To Split Canadian Federation
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/03/24/world/language-again-threatening-to-split-canadian-federation.html

lol @ ethnic/historical, how would that change anything i said?

if there are ethnic/historical differences between people that descended from English colonists and french colonist wouldn't logic also tell you that there would be ethnic/historical differences between people that descended from english colonists and people that descended from spanish colonists, wouldnt it also stand to reason that if the us dealt with descendants of spanish colonists the way canada dealt with descendants of french colonists the same issues we see in quebec would arise in the us?

so see, even using your premise (which is a totally false and dumb premise) that somehow ethnicity and history is something separate from language, it doesnt disprove my thesis that under canadian type multiculturalism the us can end up in a quebec type situation

 

[Crakface]

I would guess that the person who said that is very ignorant.

Black people in Detroit are diverse but being 'pussified' isn't a typical Detroiter quality intellectually, physically, or in any other way. I'm not even sure that many of our cac and asians are that way either.

however, @theworldismine13 is a fakkit and other posters have already dealt with him in here.

What is it about this thread that is making black people go in on one another.

 

[theworldismine13]

I would guess that the person who said that is very ignorant.

Black people in Detroit are diverse but being 'pussified' isn't a typical Detroiter quality intellectually, physically, or in any other way. I'm not even sure that many of our cac and asians are that way either.

however, @theworldismine13 is a fakkit and other posters have already dealt with him in here.

i stand by my statement, and nobody is dealing me anything

 

[The Real]

the article clearly backs up everything i said, it even delves into the possibility that some canadian provinces might become american states

Language Again Threatening To Split Canadian Federation
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/03/24/world/language-again-threatening-to-split-canadian-federation.html

It's a poorly written article with no analysis of the problem from almost 25 years ago. This is your source?

lol @ ethnic/historical, how would that change anything i said?

if there are ethnic/historical differences between people that descended from English colonists and french colonist wouldn't logic also tell you that there would be ethnic/historical differences between people that descended from english colonists and people that descended from spanish colonists, wouldnt it also stand to reason that if the us dealt with descendants of spanish colonists the way canada dealt with descendants of french colonists the same issues we see in quebec would arise in the us?

so see, even using your premise (which is a totally false and dumb premise) that somehow ethnicity and history is something separate from language, it doesnt disprove my thesis that under canadian type multiculturalism the us can end up in a quebec type situation

It would change what you said because an ethnic/historical divide is not simply a linguistic one, and you've been harping on language since the beginning of the thread, since your original offense was to a commercial that showed Americans singing a popular song in different languages.

As for this ridiculous straw man that language is separate from ethnicity and history, you're the first person to bring up such an idea. I said specifically, again and again, language is merely a small subset of the ethnohistorical divide, not that it's separate. The US isn't dealing with divides of remotely the same order, so no, under "Canadian type multiculturalism" we would not encounter the same difficulties.

 

[theworldismine13]

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/03/24/world/language-again-threatening-to-split-canadian-federation.html

The debate has put the Progressive Conservative Government on the defensive, created unease and a mounting sense of crisis and underlined anew the centrifugal forces always lurking beneath the surface of this disparate land, where even the national anthem has two distinctly different lyrics, one in English, the other in French.

 

[Nomad1]

the notion that you can somehow separate language from history is really retarded, ima need you to take a seat

You said there was a referendum because of language differences and you're wrong. French and British hostility in North American began in the 17th century and Britain's takeover of French Canada cemented that rivalry. They wanted to split because of that along with their cultural differences. In hindsight it wasn't because of language differences. So you're the one that needs to have a seat.

 

[Blackking]

What is it about this thread that is making black people go in on one another.

people simply disagree about common language. I say the debate is foolish because most properous nations in history have had multiple languages used within the borders.. the greatest Kingdoms on our planets were made up of many states, languages, cultures, and people.

America's SO called 'greatest generations' still had many people who clung to their roots in Europe..and spoke that language around the household.

In a global economy its ignorant to even encourage 1 language for your children. All of my sons speak more than 1 language. 2 speak spanish as they are bilingual. 1 speaks patwa (jamaican) the oldest speaks spanish and english as 1st languages and is learning Chinese and will continue to learn that language.

All of our children should speak another language... and not just basic hi/bye shyt.

Anyone making points about Canada being harmed by 2 languages is ignorant as fukk on Canadian history and current politics, lol.

Anyone making a big deal about language obviously never traveled. With our different races, language, backgrounds... Americans stand out all over the world. Everyone can tell that u are American regardless of what language you speak. We all speak 'American' in our ways , thoughts, and body language... even if we try not to.

The US doesn't have an official language because that's not the purpose of our federal gov. Just like driving policies and family issues.. The States handle language... and some states list the official one as English.. Eventually if Texas would like to list Spanish- then there would be nothing wrong with that. No one in America is speaking any utoaztecan, nadene, or algic languages.... so really we all should shut the fukk up and be glad we weren't those people that got wiped away.

 

[theworldismine13]

It's a poorly written article with no analysis of the problem from almost 25 years ago. This is your source?

wow, really, that is your retort?

It would change what you said because an ethnic/historical divide is not simply a linguistic one, and you've been harping on language since the beginning of the thread, since your original offense was to a commercial that showed Americans singing a popular song in different languages.

of course it changes the verbage but im asking you essentially a question but replacing "language" (which you object to) with "ethnicity and history"

you say that the issues with quebec have to do with ethnicity and history, because the english speaking people have a different ethnicity and history then the french speaking people

im simply pointing out that the the english speaking people of the united states have a different ethnicity and history then the people that come from spanish speaking countries

so im simply asking, if the us dealt with spanish speaking people the way canada deals with french speaking people

wouldnt it stand to reason that the same issues we see in quebec would arise in the us?

its a pretty straightforward question

As for this ridiculous straw man that language is separate from ethnicity and history, you're the first person to bring up such an idea. I said specifically, again and again, language is merely a small subset of the ethnohistorical divide, not that it's separate. The US isn't dealing with divides of remotely the same order, so no, under "Canadian type multiculturalism" we would not encounter the same difficulties.

actually it is experiencing a divide in the same order, that is the point of the whole discussion about both the cherrios and the coke commercial, the us is undergoing ethnic changes of immense order and the question is are we going to continue the traditional way of pushing immigrants toward english and massive assimilation or are going to go the multicultural/canadian route of respecting all languages and cultures and making other languages equal to english

 

[theworldismine13]

You said there was a referendum because of language differences and you're wrong. French and British hostility in North American began in the 17th century and Britain's takeover of French Canada cemented that rivalry. They wanted to split because of that along with their cultural differences. In hindsight it wasn't because of language differences. So you're the one that needs to have a seat.

the whole notion of separating language from a persons history is just stupid, just stop it

 

[Nomad1]

the whole notion of separating language from a persons history is just stupid, just stop it

The notion that French Canadians wanted to separate from Canada simply because of language is wrong. They're many factors and language is ONE of them (it was least important). I never said otherwise.

 

[theworldismine13]

The notion that French Canadians wanted to separate from Canada simply because of language is wrong. They're many factors and language is ONE of them (it was least important). I never said otherwise.

that differentiation you are making doesn't make a difference to my overall point, you can go through every statement ive made and replace language with "ethnicity and history" and all the points i said would still stand

a persons language is inextricable linked to their ethnicity and history, i see no reason for seperating the 2, and most normal people discussing history and geopolitics dont separate it out either because they are so intertwined unless there is a specific reason to, HL is probably the only place in the internet or real world where people think the issues in quebec are not related to language

in the issue of quebec there is no reason to try to separate language from history or ethnicity, that's just silly

 

[Nomad1]

that differentiation you are making doesn't make a difference to my overall point, you can go through every statement ive made and replace language with "ethnicity and history" and all the points i said would still stand

a persons language is inextricable linked to their ethnicity and history, i see no reason for seperating the 2, and most normal people discussing history and geopolitics dont separate it out either because they are so intertwined unless there is a specific reason to, HL is probably the only place in the internet or real world where people think the issues in quebec are not related to language

in the issue of quebec there is no reason to try to separate language from history or ethnicity, that's just silly

You're still wrong. Tell any historian that Quebec wanted to separate from Canada because of language and they'll tell you exactly what i've told you. What you're saying is to broad especially with relation to Canadian history.

 

[theworldismine13]

You're still wrong. Tell any historian that Quebec wanted to separate from Canada because of language and they'll tell you exactly what i've told you. What you're saying is to broad especially with relation to Canadian history.

language and history are inextricably linked, so when somebody says language most people including historians conflate that with ethnicity and history

this issue of making a distinction between language and history is just some shyt yall pulled out your ass cuz you saw me connecting the dots between the multiculturalism in canada and the coke commercial, so like the little intellectual bytches that yall are yall started this ridiculous idea that language is somehow separate from ethnicity and history, a notion which is basically absurd

 

[Nomad1]

language and history are inextricably linked, so when somebody says language most people including historian conflate that with ethnicity and history

this issue of making a distinction between language and history is just some shyt yall pulled out your ass cuz you saw me connecting the dots between the multiculturalism in canada and the coke commercial, so like the little intellectual bytches that yall are yall started this ridiculous idea that language is somehow separate from ethnicity and history, a notion which is basically absurd

I never said language was different from culture or ethnicity. But the specifics of French/British relations stems deeper than language. That's all im saying.