Racist media coverage of this war

[Professor Emeritus]

Let's be real, whites control the narrative because they mastered the us vs them schema

Isn't the only way but it's a big part of it. Europeans took the Americas by exploiting divisions between Native Americans (that and disease). Europeans took Africa by exploiting the divisions between Africans. Europeans took India by exploiting the divisions between Indians. And you can see it happening in real time on these threads even now - constant agendas to exploit division for gain and people fall right into it.

 

[Kaydigi]

Today was the first day I saw ABC news cover that Africans and south East Asian are being denied train transport. Disgusting watching soliders push them back.

 

[Macallik86]

I understand the anger some of yall have in here. Since this is HL, I believe I can ask a clarifying question without being labeled a cac...

To play devil's advocate on some (read: not all) of the coverage, if the coverage of the unrest in Nigeria last year tried to cast Nigerians as being more affluent and more capitalistic/Americanized than other the rest of Africa, would yall view that as racist as well or journalist seeking out commonalities to conjure empathy/compassion among the audience?

Can yall honestly say yall are as compassionate about a white person dying in your neighborhood as a black person? I think it's human nature to unconsciously care more about those/things you can relate to. I wouldn't call it racist for black people to identify with a struggle in Africa more than a white person for example. Hypothetically, if Hands Across America was doing a donor drive to end war in Ethiopia and a black host said "they are black like us, let's give them a hand". Is that racist?

 

[mastermind]

I understand the anger some of yall have in here. Since this is HL, I believe I can ask a clarifying question without being labeled a cac...

To play devil's advocate on some (read: not all) of the coverage, if the coverage of the unrest in Nigeria last year tried to cast Nigerians as being more affluent and more capitalistic/Americanized than other the rest of Africa, would yall view that as racist as well or journalist seeking out commonalities to conjure empathy/compassion among the audience?

Can yall honestly say yall are as compassionate about a white person dying in your neighborhood as a black person? I think it's human nature to unconsciously care more about those/things you can relate to. I wouldn't call it racist for black people to identify with a struggle in Africa more than a white person for example. Hypothetically, if Hands Across America was doing a donor drive to end war in Ethiopia and a black host said "they are black like us, let's give them a hand". Is that racist?

Why would your first thought be “these are civilized people, unlike…”

 

[Macallik86]

Why would your first thought be “these are civilized people, unlike…”

You quoted me, but none of your post actually refers to anything I said

 

[wire28]

agreed they been super blatant with it this time

 

[Houston911]

Good lord

 

[mastermind]

You quoted me, but none of your post actually refers to anything I said

Gump, that is the point of this thread.

 

[Disclosure]

yea im over this shyt. I find this war interesting from a geopolitical/military angle but thats IT. I know my opinion doesnt matter but I just want to put this out there. If there are any ukranians, russians, belorussians or any other white people on thecoli reading this I dont have any particular affection for ukranians and I dont give a shyt about your children and racist ass grandparents getting killed. I really just want all this to help Biden and the Democrats in the midterms.

 

[Robbie3000]

Even going back to WW2, Germany was attempting to do in Europe what the European powers were doing to the rest of the world. colonialism.

The Nazis were just late to the game. The “good guys” had already gobbled up territory in Africa, Asia and the Middle East.

That’s why I say the only war black folks were morally obliged to participate in was the Civil War.


Some may say, what about WW2? Aside from the exposure Black soldiers from around the world got from fighting in WW2, there was no moral obligation for any black people to fight for the Allied powers. When you look at Jim Crow, Apartheid, Belgium holocaust in Africa and colonialism, it’s hard to imagine the Nazis would have been any worse in the exploitation of African people, than what the allied powers were already doing.

 

[barese]

WWI started in Sarajevo...

During Bosnia and Kosovo I don't think we heard this kind of rhetoric

I don't know about American media, but there's a reason for the difference compared to the Balkans in the rhetorics of northern European countries lol
(European political division may be East/West, but the real cultural one is North/South)


The irony is Sarajevo hosted winter Olympic games just 8 years before the Bosnian civil war...
I'm not sure what could be more "civilized" than the damn Olympic games lol

 

[get these nets]

I understand the anger some of yall have in here. Since this is HL, I believe I can ask a clarifying question without being labeled a cac...

To play devil's advocate on some (read: not all) of the coverage, if the coverage of the unrest in Nigeria last year tried to cast Nigerians as being more affluent and more capitalistic/Americanized than other the rest of Africa, would yall view that as racist as well or journalist seeking out commonalities to conjure empathy/compassion among the audience?

Don't fully get this question, but American media deliberately does this when the goal is to make the victims of atrocities more relatable to the audience. To use your example of Nigeria, the coverage will say "Boko Haram targets Christians in the North of the country".

 

[mc_brew]

On another note... it's amazing just how deep man's inhumanity to man runs. Even with Ukrainians facing such a terrible situation, they still find time to be racist to black people that are seeking asylum.

That really boggles the mind, man. How can you still contain that type of hate in your heart even while asking ppl to feel sympathy for you?

I'm trying not to view too many of those videos because it would force me to be numb to the plight of Ukraine. And I dont want to be numb.

But good God... does it ever stop?

view the videos, become numb.... become numb...

it's liberating to stop caring about people who are incapable of caring about you.....

btw, to answer your question, no it does not ever stop....

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

I understand the anger some of yall have in here. Since this is HL, I believe I can ask a clarifying question without being labeled a cac...

To play devil's advocate on some (read: not all) of the coverage, if the coverage of the unrest in Nigeria last year tried to cast Nigerians as being more affluent and more capitalistic/Americanized than other the rest of Africa, would yall view that as racist as well or journalist seeking out commonalities to conjure empathy/compassion among the audience?

Can yall honestly say yall are as compassionate about a white person dying in your neighborhood as a black person? I think it's human nature to unconsciously care more about those/things you can relate to. I wouldn't call it racist for black people to identify with a struggle in Africa more than a white person for example. Hypothetically, if Hands Across America was doing a donor drive to end war in Ethiopia and a black host said "they are black like us, let's give them a hand". Is that racist?

I understand what you’re saying. The thing is, a lot of white people claim they don’t see color, and that racism is a thing of the past. They claim it’s all about hard work, yet you see how they act when it comes to the treatment of other people. (Especially black people) Since they hold the majority of power, when they put their own first, it hurts others, and has a bigger impact. But they don’t directly own up to anything. They just refer to themselves as “normal”, “default”, and “Americans, Brits etc” not “white”, and claim we’re all one big happy family, when it’s obvious to everyone else that’s not the case. If they would simply own up to it, it would allow the rest of us to start taking care of ourselves, instead of expecting to get the same treatment. But that isn’t in their personal best interest, so they keep telling us to work harder, knowing they will always choose their own unless forced to.

 

[Macallik86]

Don't fully get this question, but American media deliberately does this when the goal is to make the victims of atrocities more relatable to the audience. To use your example of Nigeria, the coverage will say "Boko Haram targets Christians in the North of the country".

Yup. That one is egregious because it reinforces the whole 'Christian good Muslim bad' mindset.

There are less (unconsciously?) antagonistic analogies that news media uses too fwiw. I was loosely referring to #EndSARS and how the protests were framed as BLM-esque. As someone who appreciated what BLM's intentions were, it made #EndSARS less of an "over there" problem and put it in a context that I was able to rally behind. I feel like that's the main purpose of international reporting.