Racial prejudice is driving opposition to paying college athletes. Here’s the evidence.

[y2flyy]

Complain about posters talking about race when the thread is about an article that talks about race brehs.

Right because if we didn't have so many Coli clowns so ready to jump up and circle whine about white people.

The article would have been researched and dismissed as the B.S. that it is.

But what happened though? Instead of an intelligent dialogue or even a 50-50 sided debate.

The daily coli circle whining about white people so predicibly commenced lol

 

[Supercoolmayo]

Yall sound like a bunch of clowns.

The typically crazy race baiting crap spewed everyday on the Coli.

A bunch a whining crybabies always crying about white ppl.

Ohh the white man this...oh the white man that. Oh this is racist....everything is about race to you clowns man.

Every college athlete could be white and they still wouldn't be getting salaries. Its about money, nothing to do with race.

At one time 99% of College athletes were white and they were not getting paid like professional.

I seriously do not know how you ignorant race baiting clowns live with your crazy a$% thoughts every day.

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[y2flyy]

I hate idiots on this site as much as anyone else. People who use racism as excuse when its not present infuriates me because there are enough real injustices and it takes away from legitimate plights of blacks who face racism. You're dead wrong on this. I've been a black student athlete in the south and have followed the NCAA and their rules, shyt is one of the most racist institutions out there. Just look at the missouri case, you have enough fake outrage in other threads within this website please take that shyt somewhere else. If you took even 30 minutes to learn about some of the bullshyt they pull and the people involved you wouldn't be spouting this bullshyt.

Also nice try on changing the circle whining from Circle jerk, that's grade A Reddit lingo. I say this as a reasonably mannered person who thinks the coli is often incorrect about racism. Get the fukk out of here.

Bro you actually make some sensible points.

My only area of disagreement is your larger points (about NCAA being institutionally racist and the Missouri example) has nothing to do with what we're arguing (the point of the thread and the article).

The article did not prove that blacks are the reason college athletes are not getting paid and actually prove more that it has nothing to do with race.

 

[big bun]

Y'all are so small-minded. That's how they like to see you though. Good job.

 

[NelsonSwagdela]

Bro you actually make some sensible points.

My only area of disagreement is your larger points (about NCAA being institutionally racist and the Missouri example) has nothing to do with what we're arguing (the point of the thread and the article).

The article did not prove that blacks are the reason college athletes are not getting paid and actually prove more that it has nothing to do with race.

The article doesn't have to prove anything it just illustrates how people's prejudices could lead to what seems like very bias rules in the NCAA. I could give you tons of examples of racism in the NCAA. I was a captain and vocal leader amongst the black student union. I interacted with a lot of the powerful boosters and representatives in college football. You're dead wrong if you don't think a large portion of these people arent racist. I was suspended by the NCAA because I used the word nikka on social media. I have first hand experience, black writers like bomani jones have first hand experience and will tell you a huge reason athletes aren't properly compensated is because they're black. Look at this country historically, their attitude towards race and capitalism and tell me why this is so hard for you to grasp. There is evidence that black receive harsher punishments for equal crimes, less money for the same jobs, getting their resume thrown in the bushes because their name isn't traditionally white. Black college grads are less likely to be hired for the same position as a white dude with a high school education and criminal record. Yet you have the nerve to come here and question black people for thinking the NCAA might be racist? OKAY. A 30,0000 dollar scholarship is equal to 12-14 dollar per hour job for NCAA athletes and the time they put in per year. Now consider their skillset and popularity and now you justify why they should be making burger flip money?

 

[y2flyy]

The article doesn't have to prove anything it just illustrates how people's prejudices could lead to what seems like very bias rules in the NCAA. I could give you tons of examples of racism in the NCAA. I was a captain and vocal leader amongst the black student union. I interacted with a lot of the powerful boosters and representatives in college football. You're dead wrong if you don't think a large portion of these people arent racist. I was suspended by the NCAA because I used the word nikka on social media. I have first hand experience, black writers like bomani jones have first hand experience and will tell you a huge reason athletes aren't properly compensated is because they're black. Look at this country historically, their attitude towards race and capitalism and tell me why this is so hard for you to grasp. There is evidence that black receive harsher punishments for equal crimes, less money for the same jobs, getting their resume thrown in the bushes because their name isn't traditionally white. Black college grads are less likely to be hired for the same position as a white dude with a high school education and criminal record. Yet you have the nerve to come here and question black people for thinking the NCAA might be racist? OKAY. A 30,0000 dollar scholarship is equal to 12-14 dollar per hour job for NCAA athletes and the time they put in per year. Now consider their skillset and popularity and now you justify why they should be making burger flip money?

Breh

1) You said the article doesn't have to prove anything. How so? The premise was that race was a factor in paying college athletes. Many sensible individuals would disagree with that so yes the article should provide better proof to make its case. And again my point was it proved moreso that race is not a factor by its own survey
2) And how did it illustrate that there were prejudices? That lead to an NCAA rule that was in place long before blacks were even allowed to be athletes lol.
Thats my point. It didn't provide evidence of prejudices.

Also all of your other points illustrates in my view the issues with black folks. I just simply do not view the world like many of you folks too. I just dont and never will.
I honestly believe 95% of all issues you listed about how ppl feel and treat blacks has to do with perception, biases, human nature, and stereotypes. Not inherent racism.

You'd like to believe that disparities in hiring (and many other areas again that you mentioned) has to do with just the fact that we're black. Again my view has been that our culture our issues and how a large portion of us blacks are (perceiving to be lazy and ghetto), drives 95% of all these stereotypes that play into everyone's minds regarding blacks.

If you think black on black crime, blacks issues with committing violent crimes (ex. Chicago, Baltimore). Doesn't affect other races perceptions of us. You sadly mistaken.

Other races that come to this country and do not have the issues we have in our communities. They by and large succeed and are prosperous in America.

Asians for example (have a language and culture barrier but b/c of their focus on family and education) make way more money than blacks and even make more than whites.

These issues causes America to look at Blacks at large threw these lenses. And like I said before black folks like you all who rather whine about white folks NEVER focus on the actual aspects that will really improve our circumstance. And thats US.
If Blacks improve our standing in America through Education, Stronger family values, less crime and ignorance.

You'll see a monumental shift in America regarding Blacks. Thats my view. But I don't expect race baiters like you to actually think the issues with the way the world views us, actually has to do with us.

You'd rather circle whine and cry all day about white people.

 

[BXKingPin82]

@ you all entertaining that white piece of shyt

 

[LeVraiPapi]

Breh

1) You said the article doesn't have to prove anything. How so? The premise was that race was a factor in paying college athletes. Many sensible individuals would disagree with that so yes the article should provide better proof to make its case. And again my point was it proved moreso that race is not a factor by its own survey
2) And how did it illustrate that there were prejudices? That lead to an NCAA rule that was in place long before blacks were even allowed to be athletes lol.
Thats my point. It didn't provide evidence of prejudices.

Also all of your other points illustrates in my view the issues with black folks. I just simply do not view the world like many of you folks too. I just dont and never will.
I honestly believe 95% of all issues you listed about how ppl feel and treat blacks has to do with perception, biases, human nature, and stereotypes. Not inherent racism.

You'd like to believe that disparities in hiring (and many other areas again that you mentioned) has to do with just the fact that we're black. Again my view has been that our culture our issues and how a large portion of us blacks are (perceiving to be lazy and ghetto), drives 95% of all these stereotypes that play into everyone's minds regarding blacks.

If you think black on black crime, blacks issues with committing violent crimes (ex. Chicago, Baltimore). Doesn't affect other races perceptions of us. You sadly mistaken.

Other races that come to this country and do not have the issues we have in our communities. They by and large succeed and are prosperous in America.

Asians for example (have a language and culture barrier but b/c of their focus on family and education) make way more money than blacks and even make more than whites.

These issues causes America to look at Blacks at large threw these lenses. And like I said before black folks like you all who rather whine about white folks NEVER focus on the actual aspects that will really improve our circumstance. And thats US.
If Blacks improve our standing in America through Education, Stronger family values, less crime and ignorance.

You'll see a monumental shift in America regarding Blacks. Thats my view. But I don't expect race baiters like you to actually think the issues with the way the world views us, actually has to do with us.

You'd rather circle whine and cry all day about white people.

So, a man that has never met or anybody n this site and call us the N word without even knowing our name, or if we are even Americans is somehow our fault too, right ?

 

[NelsonSwagdela]

Breh

1) You said the article doesn't have to prove anything. How so? The premise was that race was a factor in paying college athletes. Many sensible individuals would disagree with that so yes the article should provide better proof to make its case. And again my point was it proved moreso that race is not a factor by its own survey
2) And how did it illustrate that there were prejudices? That lead to an NCAA rule that was in place long before blacks were even allowed to be athletes lol.
Thats my point. It didn't provide evidence of prejudices.

Also all of your other points illustrates in my view the issues with black folks. I just simply do not view the world like many of you folks too. I just dont and never will.
I honestly believe 95% of all issues you listed about how ppl feel and treat blacks has to do with perception, biases, human nature, and stereotypes. Not inherent racism.

You'd like to believe that disparities in hiring (and many other areas again that you mentioned) has to do with just the fact that we're black. Again my view has been that our culture our issues and how a large portion of us blacks are (perceiving to be lazy and ghetto), drives 95% of all these stereotypes that play into everyone's minds regarding blacks.

If you think black on black crime, blacks issues with committing violent crimes (ex. Chicago, Baltimore). Doesn't affect other races perceptions of us. You sadly mistaken.

Other races that come to this country and do not have the issues we have in our communities. They by and large succeed and are prosperous in America.

Asians for example (have a language and culture barrier but b/c of their focus on family and education) make way more money than blacks and even make more than whites.

These issues causes America to look at Blacks at large threw these lenses. And like I said before black folks like you all who rather whine about white folks NEVER focus on the actual aspects that will really improve our circumstance. And thats US.
If Blacks improve our standing in America through Education, Stronger family values, less crime and ignorance.

You'll see a monumental shift in America regarding Blacks. Thats my view. But I don't expect race baiters like you to actually think the issues with the way the world views us, actually has to do with us.

You'd rather circle whine and cry all day about white people.

No one is taking responsibility away from anyone. This is all shyt that is spouted on st0rmfr0nt and easily debunked. Asians are a fukking variety of people the hmong and vietnamese are not successful immigrants, they come from poverty in America and often remain in poverty. You're full of stupid generalizations. The whole institution of America has attacked black Americans to destroy the family, their ability to own property and prosper. Get the fukk out of here with this nonsense. No race, ethnicity, or culture has been picked apart and targeted like black Americans since their arrival in this country. I'm not making excuses. I'm not ignoring black on black crime. Or problems within the black community. Am suppose to believe that my brothers and sisters are somehow less capable than other races and cultures? I'm so sick of white people telling black people to take responsibility for our faults when they...YOU have spent all of american history going out of their way to any positive aspect of our culture. White people can spend eternity, raping, pillaging and conquering without having to explain themselves. How is the bottom of the barrel suppose to improve themselves while top not only refuses to help, they even refuse to acknowledge their role in our circumstances.

 

[y2flyy]

@ you all entertaining that white piece of shyt

I aint white breh. Go back on my posts. I've proven I'm not white.

 

[y2flyy]

No one is taking responsibility away from anyone. This is all shyt that is spouted on st0rmfr0nt and easily debunked. Asians are a fukking variety of people the hmong and vietnamese are not successful immigrants, they come from poverty in America and often remain in poverty. You're full of stupid generalizations. The whole institution of America has attacked black Americans to destroy the family, their ability to own property and prosper. Get the fukk out of here with this nonsense. No race, ethnicity, or culture has been picked apart and targeted like black Americans since their arrival in this country. I'm not making excuses. I'm not ignoring black on black crime. Or problems within the black community. Am suppose to believe that my brothers and sisters are somehow less capable than other races and cultures? I'm so sick of white people telling black people to take responsibility for our faults when they...YOU have spent all of american history going out of their way to any positive aspect of our culture. White people can spend eternity, raping, pillaging and conquering without having to explain themselves. How is the bottom of the barrel suppose to improve themselves while top not only refuses to help, they even refuse to acknowledge their role in our circumstances.

1)
No one is taking responsibility away from anyone.
But you are doing exactly that when your view is the reason black ppl are treated a certain way is because we're black (and whites are just racist). As opposed to a reason we are treated and viewed a certain way is b/c of how we are perceived (which again is largely based on how America see Black Culture).

2)
Asians are a fukking variety of people the hmong and vietnamese are not successful immigrants, they come from poverty in America and often remain in poverty.
Ok and? I didn't say all Asians. Still take the cultures that prosper in America and they all have certain things in common. A few which are strong family values (where dads are not largely abandoning their families literally in droves like in the black community,and a strong strong emphasis on education.

Secondly you're also proving other points I have made. Poverty to me is not THE issue. Other races have poverty concens as well. There are a lot of poor white folks as well.
But poor asians and poor whites or poor other races DO NOT have the same largely negative perception given upon them by America at large, like Blacks do.
People do not view blacks the way they do (in terms of the negative perceptions, etc...) because of poverty.
In my opinion its because of VIOLENT CRIME. Like in Chicago where 40-50 can be shot in one fu*king weekend!
Name an Asian or White poor community where that happens? I bet you any kind of money YOU CAN'T.

But this happens in Black Communities all over America. On a relatively consistent basis.

My point is THIS LARGELY AFFECTS THE WAY AMERICA VIEWS BLACKS. Thats the bottom line.

 

[hayesc0]

And water is wet

This I remember having this argument with a bunch of white people at work last year.

 

[Aufheben]

@ y'all going back and forth with this c00n @y2flyy

i swear all you c00ns got the same exact talking points. the shyt is perfectly predictable it's 2016 and nikkas still denying racism

your negro wake up call is gonna be devastating sambo

 

[hayesc0]

have a free ride in life AND get paid for it because you were born athletic

nikka you about to get a neg train real talk how the school get to eat but not the athletes this shyt is pure exploitation and the two sports dominated by black athletes you can go in straight from high school in the US its bullshyt.

 

[NelsonSwagdela]

Breh

1) You said the article doesn't have to prove anything. How so? The premise was that race was a factor in paying college athletes. Many sensible individuals would disagree with that so yes the article should provide better proof to make its case. And again my point was it proved moreso that race is not a factor by its own survey
2) And how did it illustrate that there were prejudices? That lead to an NCAA rule that was in place long before blacks were even allowed to be athletes lol.
Thats my point. It didn't provide evidence of prejudices.

Also all of your other points illustrates in my view the issues with black folks. I just simply do not view the world like many of you folks too. I just dont and never will.
I honestly believe 95% of all issues you listed about how ppl feel and treat blacks has to do with perception, biases, human nature, and stereotypes. Not inherent racism.

You'd like to believe that disparities in hiring (and many other areas again that you mentioned) has to do with just the fact that we're black. Again my view has been that our culture our issues and how a large portion of us blacks are (perceiving to be lazy and ghetto), drives 95% of all these stereotypes that play into everyone's minds regarding blacks.

If you think black on black crime, blacks issues with committing violent crimes (ex. Chicago, Baltimore). Doesn't affect other races perceptions of us. You sadly mistaken.

Other races that come to this country and do not have the issues we have in our communities. They by and large succeed and are prosperous in America.

Asians for example (have a language and culture barrier but b/c of their focus on family and education) make way more money than blacks and even make more than whites.

These issues causes America to look at Blacks at large threw these lenses. And like I said before black folks like you all who rather whine about white folks NEVER focus on the actual aspects that will really improve our circumstance. And thats US.
If Blacks improve our standing in America through Education, Stronger family values, less crime and ignorance.

You'll see a monumental shift in America regarding Blacks. Thats my view. But I don't expect race baiters like you to actually think the issues with the way the world views us, actually has to do with us.

You'd rather circle whine and cry all day about white people.

I don't view you as a representation of white people, I don't think they're all as stupid as you. Please don't view my statements as a representation of all black people. It's hilarious that you're using stereotypes, biases and generalizations to convince us that racism doesn't exist. Im one of the most chill, no

1)
No one is taking responsibility away from anyone.
But you are doing exactly that when your view is the reason black ppl are treated a certain way is because we're black (and whites are just racist). As opposed to a reason we are treated and viewed a certain way is b/c of how we are perceived (which again is largely based on how America see Black Culture).

2)
Asians are a fukking variety of people the hmong and vietnamese are not successful immigrants, they come from poverty in America and often remain in poverty.
Ok and? I didn't say all Asians. Still take the cultures that prosper in America and they all have certain things in common. A few which are strong family values (where dads are not largely abandoning their families literally in droves like in the black community,and a strong strong emphasis on education.

Secondly you're also proving other points I have made. Poverty to me is not THE issue. Other races have poverty concens as well. There are a lot of poor white folks as well.
But poor asians and poor whites or poor other races DO NOT have the same largely negative perception given upon them by America at large, like Blacks do.
People do not view blacks the way they do (in terms of the negative perceptions, etc...) because of poverty.
In my opinion its because of VIOLENT CRIME. Like in Chicago where 40-50 can be shot in one fu*king weekend!
Name an Asian or White poor community where that happens? I bet you any kind of money YOU CAN'T.

But this happens in Black Communities all over America. On a relatively consistent basis.

My point is THIS LARGELY AFFECTS THE WAY AMERICA VIEWS BLACKS. Thats the bottom line.

Poverty equals violence. Hmongs and vietnamese are the poorest group of asians and their communities have higher rates of violence compared to any other asian group. Blacks have the higher rates of poverty because of every effort on their part to create a strong, financially stable community has been destroyed by white americans. Black families have been targeted and destroyed. I have no reason to make excuses, my life has turned out fine and I don't need to make up boogie man theories of racism to justify my failures. These are facts.

Holy fukk, you are dense. You're either 15 years old, a racist cac or mentally retarded. I say all of the above. If you look at my post history you'll see I call everyone out on this site, militant delusional race baiting idiots included. Your post are deflecting from legit racism to point the finger at black people. No sensible person says there aren't problems with the black community but stop fukking deflecting from the issue. Why shouldn't college athletes at major programs be paid? Explain why, people with one of the rarest skillsets should be rewarded with minimum wage payment while the NCAA makes billions of dollars of their name and Image?