Racial biases affect everything….even sex work

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Of course it does.. white men are most likely more inclined to watch and follow white onlyfans content creator.. and the biggest demographic of OF customers is probably white men

Edit: there’s no way she’s complaining.. she gotta have made at least a milly already :martin:
 

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But the same logic of racially motivated consumption you follow is applicable to the products and services I mentioned...

If white people are more attracted to members of their own race, then it'd make sense according to your logic that white models would make more than their black counterparts.
If white people prefers to see members of their own race, then it'd make sense that white actors and white movies would make more than their black counterparts.
If white people could relate more easily to members of their own race, then it'd make sense that white psychologists would make more than their black counterparts.

I do think that porn consumption is based on attraction, but consumption for all the aforementioned products and services too. Whether it'd be sexual attraction, cultural similarity, a feeling of connexion...
It seems to me that making an exception for porn is arbitrary. Especially compared to simple modeling.

Also, you mention that white men have more disposable income to buy porn that black men. That's actually part of what I had in mind in my original post. Don't you think that's wealth disparities per capita between races are influenced by systemic racism? If that situation affects the bottomline of black sex workers, how could you say they're not affected by systemic racism as is everything else?

There's more I wanted to say and ask but I don't want to be too long.
I personally find that believing a black person is not intelligent enough to do a job is more important than white men not wanting to jack off to black women or black people not having enough disposable income to use on porn stars.

The time spent on how systemic racism impacts the purchase of porn, imo, is absurd when that time could be spent on how systemic racism impacts health care, jobs, cities, poverty, etc.

I should mention I don't view sex work as real work so my opinion on system racism effecting real black products and services or virtually anything else is different than it would be in the field of sex work.

Hell if this was fashion modeling I'm on board with systemic racism impacting that field of work even though that doesn't involve intelligence.

But that does involve brand representation, modeling agencies, etc which are very different than what she does.

She's on OF.

She's an independent pornstar advertising herself directly to consumers.

Not a porn star looking to get signed by a production company, or if we used modeling, looking for representation by a modeling agency.

Going into a modeling agency, which is a business, and experiencing systemic racism is different than independently advertising and sexualizing yourself directly to consumers and not being happy with the results.

Let's also not assume that if a black person had the same amount of disposable income as a white person, they would spend their money the exact same way a white person would.

Who's to say a black society with enough disposable income as the white society would even elevate a porn star to the heights of the white porn stars she's comparing herself to.
 

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Thats the issue rents die and its looking kinda shakey for her

So shes wishing that she made this alleged 43 million dollars
She probably caps about her earnings so I dont know why she thinks the white girl aint capping
Allegedly the woman in question provided receipts.
 

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She should wear sunglasses, I’m sure her tips would increase
this bytch cross eyed?
 
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Something looks off with that Ugandan account and some of those posts. Seems like a bot.
It's a bot. Look at the characters under the name.

As far as the narrative they're pushing. It's bullshyt. Black men don't set societal beauty standards, so it is misguided to blame us for why you aren't as desired by white men as white women are.
 

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I personally find that believing a black person is not intelligent enough to do a job is more important than white men not wanting to jack off to black women or black people not having enough disposable income to use on porn stars.

The time spent on how systemic racism impacts the purchase of porn, imo, is absurd when that time could be spent on how systemic racism impacts health care, jobs, cities, poverty, etc.

I should mention I don't view sex work as real work so my opinion on system racism effecting real black products and services or virtually anything else is different than it would be in the field of sex work.

Hell if this was fashion modeling I'm on board with systemic racism impacting that field of work even though that doesn't involve intelligence.

But that does involve brand representation, modeling agencies, etc which are very different than what she does.

She's on OF.

She's an independent pornstar advertising herself directly to consumers.

Not a porn star looking to get signed by a production company, or if we used modeling, looking for representation by a modeling agency.

Going into a modeling agency, which is a business, and experiencing systemic racism is different than independently advertising and sexualizing yourself directly to consumers and not being happy with the results.

Let's also not assume that if a black person had the same amount of disposable income as a white person, they would spend their money the exact same way a white person would.

Who's to say a black society with enough disposable income as the white society would even elevate a porn star to the heights of the white porn stars she's comparing herself to.
So the difference you make between porn and the rest is indeed arbitrary.

First I thought you were replying to me by saying systemic racism isn't a thing for porn, now it seems you're saying that even though it might be a thing, it's not an important topic or it's a distraction from something more important. Which is another subject.

I'll just say those last things. There's a way to not "waste time" talking about the impact of systemic racism on porn specifically: not drawing arbitrary distinctions between porn and other forms of work or businesses when talking about systemic racism. That's what I did in my original post and it took me one sentence. Not only does that save time because you just have to talk about work and businesses in general...

... But it's also necessary for systemic racism to stand as a concept, because if you start making any arbitrary distinction, you just demonstrate that racism is actually not systemic. If you decide on a whim that racism somehow spares areas of work or business, it shows that racism doesn't affect the whole system and it builds the argumentative framework to rationalize wealth disparities' and inequalities in other areas as well using the same logic (as I've shown with modeling, movies...). Because in that process you will end up using, even inadvertently, the same arguments and logic that people who want to show that systemic racism doesn't exist use.

That person messed up at this or that part of business practice, which is why there's an inequality. (Individualizing the topic when we were discussing systemic issues and general disparities)
They just don't market themselves well enough. (Bringing back the responsability of the inequality on those who get the short hand of the stick)
Well, white folks are the main demographic of these markets, so we propose things that'll cater to them. It's normal to see inequality in outcomes for these markets. (Rationalizing disproportionately worse outcomes for the minority)
They're just not interested in such and such things, so it makes sense they'd make less. Matter of fact, even if they had more, they still wouldn't invest in such and such thing. It's a cultural issue.
(The wealth disparities actually come from unequal cultures, and it just happens that their culture is invested in things that don't lead to much money).

It seems to me that that one arbitrary, particular hang-up with porn, wherever it might come from, thus leads you to weaken the concept of systemic racism as a whole, for no reason.

Thanks for the convo (I mean it). Take care.
 

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So the difference you make between porn and the rest is indeed arbitrary.

First I thought you were replying to me by saying systemic racism isn't a thing for porn, now it seems you're saying that even though it might be a thing, it's not an important topic or it's a distraction from something more important. Which is another subject.

I'll just say those last things. There's a way to not "waste time" talking about the impact of systemic racism on porn specifically: not drawing arbitrary distinctions between porn and other forms of work or businesses when talking about systemic racism. That's what I did in my original post and it took me one sentence. Not only does that save time because you just have to talk about work and businesses in general...

... But it's also necessary for systemic racism to stand as a concept, because if you start making any arbitrary distinction, you just demonstrate that racism is actually not systemic. If you decide on a whim that racism somehow spares areas of work or business, it shows that racism doesn't affect the whole system and it builds the argumentative framework to rationalize wealth disparities' and inequalities in other areas as well using the same logic (as I've shown with modeling, movies...). Because in that process you will end up using, even inadvertently, the same arguments and logic that people who want to show that systemic racism doesn't exist use.

That person messed up at this or that part of business practice, which is why there's an inequality. (Individualizing the topic when we were discussing systemic issues and general disparities)
They just don't market themselves well enough. (Bringing back the responsability of the inequality on those who get the short hand of the stick)
Well, white folks are the main demographic of these markets, so we propose things that'll cater to them. It's normal to see inequality in outcomes for these markets. (Rationalizing disproportionately worse outcomes for the minority)
They're just not interested in such and such things, so it makes sense they'd make less. Matter of fact, even if they had more, they still wouldn't invest in such and such thing. It's a cultural issue.
(The wealth disparities actually come from unequal cultures, and it just happens that their culture is invested in things that don't lead to much money).

It seems to me that that one arbitrary, particular hang-up with porn, wherever it might come from, thus leads you to weaken the concept of systemic racism as a whole, for no reason.

Thanks for the convo (I mean it). Take care.
I’d have to disagree that a black family not being able to get a home loan, and a porn star not making whatever she believes is enough money are arbitrary distinctions.

To me, they are not.

But salute to you.
 
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