R.I.P. Al Franken's Political Career (2009-2017), 7/22/19: Jane Mayer reports railroading!

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Why do yall buy into all these harassment hit jobs?

This one is clealry a political stunt...

Tweeden is a well known industry smut...
 

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This was an obvious hit just like the establishment is trying to, and succeeding at, taking out Roy Moore. But just like I said in the Moore thread, that fact this was politically engineered does not make them less guilty. It's almost like Stone and Bannon are retaliating against the McConnell/McCain crowd here. Sex abuse should not be a political football, but this is America.
sex abuse should not be a political football, but the stone and bannon style propaganda is working on you if roy moore and franken get lumped together as sex abusers. roy moore is a pedophile that was banned from the mall and the ymca because that's where the kids were and where he needed to be. al franken if he's guilty of anything is crass behavior at a USO show.
 

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More folk vouching for Franken and Tweeden got exposed as a fraud and these second woman can’t even produce the photo where he claim he grabbed her butt..

Ariana Huffington came to Franken’s defense when the gop tried to say he groped her in a photoshoot

She was like nah Franken’s been my homie from way back and we joke around and play like that.. try again :mjgrin:


Now Rep Conyers that ninja gotten go his time has been up
 

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He's Weinerd brehs, liberal women are coming out now.




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sex abuse should not be a political football, but the stone and bannon style propaganda is working on you if roy moore and franken get lumped together as sex abusers. roy moore is a pedophile that was banned from the mall and the ymca because that's where the kids were and where he needed to be. al franken if he's guilty of anything is crass behavior at a USO show.

Well, here's the thing; Harvey Weinstein has been accused of everything from unwanted verbal advances to outright violent, physical rape and everything in between. Given the wide variety of accusations, who wants the task of telling an alleged victim that, "Hey, we get what he did to you was wrong but what he did to her was worse so that is what's going to get the attention." To be perfectly honest we should be sorting these claims by severity of the alleged incident. The rape of a minor is much more serious than groping a woman's ass. It's okay to acknowledge that. It doesn't mean that one is wrong and the other is okay, they are both wrong, the severity of the offenses, however, is not equal.

But because no one wanted to be on the wrong side of a public relations disaster in Hollywood, each allegation that was leaked or reported has received the same amount of outrage from the general public with an equally swift and brutal response from employers and business partners and everyone agrees that it is the worst thing ever, until the next allegation hits the news. Now we have John Lasseter taking a leave of absence for being too "huggy" and other vague allegations which could possibly force him out entirely and if that were to happen he'd be following the same career death trajectory of Harvey Weinstein, a man accused of serial rape.

This is why Al Franken and Roy Moore can be bundled together because people are too scared to admit some accusations are more serious than others based upon the alleged actions of the accused. As I've seen on the Coli and elsewhere this is not an issue until someone you care about could be potentially damaged. Then people want to say :whoa: "let's slow down and think about this for a minute here." :whoa:

Nah nikka, too late.
 

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i believe in the complete mental destruction of all birthers, regardless of gender.

and franken deserves this for getting real comfortable around racist birthers. that's that white privilege. a black democratic politician wouldn't allow himself to be doing skits with the enemy like this because his staff would have been like "she's a birther", but to a white man that's "meh, let's just do this."
had to google "birther" but she dont believe obama birth certificate!?
 

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Two More Women Accuse Sen. Al Franken Of Inappropriate Touching

One woman told HuffPost that Franken had grabbed her backside at an event honoring women.

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Two more women have told HuffPost that Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) touched their butts in separate incidents. These are the third and fourth such allegations against Franken in the past week. Leeann Tweeden, a radio host, wrote last week that Franken had kissed and groped her without her consent during a 2006 USO tour. On Monday, Lindsay Menz accused Franken of groping her at the Minnesota State Fair in 2010.

The two additional women, who said they were not familiar with each others’ stories, both spoke on condition of anonymity. But their stories, which describe events during Franken’s first campaign for the Senate, are remarkably similar — and both women have been telling them privately for years.

In a statement to HuffPost, Franken said, “It’s difficult to respond to anonymous accusers, and I don’t remember those campaign events.”

The first woman, who spoke to HuffPost on condition of anonymity because she’s worried she’ll be harassed online for making the allegation, said Franken groped her when they posed for a photo after a June 25, 2007, event hosted by the Minnesota Women’s Political Caucus in Minneapolis.

“My story is eerily similar to Lindsay Menz’s story,” the first woman said. “He grabbed my buttocks during a photo op.”

The second woman told HuffPost that Franken cupped her butt with his hand at a 2008 Democratic fundraiser in Minneapolis, then suggested the two visit the bathroom together. She spoke on condition of anonymity out of fear that the allegation could affect her position at work.

“My immediate reaction was disgust,” the second woman said. “But my secondary reaction was disappointment. I was excited to be there and to meet him. And so to have that happen really deflated me. It felt like: ‘Is this really the person who is going to be in a position of power to represent our community?’”

“I can categorically say that I did not proposition anyone to join me in any bathroom,” Franken told HuffPost.

‘We Stood Next To Each Other ... And Down His Hand Went’
The first woman, a 38-year-old book editor who was living in Minneapolis at the time, told HuffPost that she had just finished performing with a feminist choir at the Women’s Political Caucus event, which Franken and his wife, Franni Bryson, attended. After the ceremony, she and other members of the choir approached him for photos.

“My mother loves Al Franken. She listened to Air America [on which Franken had a radio show] every day,” the first woman said. ”I saw him and asked if we could take a photo together for my mother, and we stood next to each other ... and down his hand went.”

HuffPost spoke to two sources close to the first woman who corroborated her account.

One fellow choir member, Sarah, remembers not only being there for the groping incident but hearing another choir member say that Franken wouldn’t stop looking at her chest.

Ten years ago, it was easier to shrug off predatory behavior as “boys being boys,” Sarah said, especially when that predatory behavior came from a political ally.

“At the time ... people weren’t as willing to speak against people they felt like were on their side,” Sarah said. “It’s really disappointing. And it’s crappy. Ten years ago we were also at an age where there was still a feeling of powerlessness, or that boys will be boys.”

People are saying that this is a right-wing conspiracy. It’s not. I’m a liberal person. ... I voted for him after this happened.
The first woman’s best friend, who likewise wished to remain anonymous, remembers hearing about the groping incident the day after it happened.

“She was in this all-women’s choir and he was at an event where she performed, and she told me that he basically grabbed her ass,” the best friend said. “It was a ‘Can you believe this happened to me?’ kind of thing.”

The first woman wanted to tell her story because Franken is “a serial groper,” she said.

“Only two people have come forward, and people are saying that this is a right-wing conspiracy,” she said. “It’s not. I’m a liberal person. ... I voted for him after this happened.”

‘I Was Completely Mortified’
The second woman, who said she was groped at a fundraiser, told HuffPost it took place in the fall of 2008 at the Loft Literary Center in Minneapolis. She was excited about attending the event and meeting someone she wanted to support.

“I had never attended anything like that,” she said.

She and her friends found Franken and introduced themselves to him.

“I shook his hand, and he put his arm around my waist and held it there,” the second woman said. “Then he moved it lower and cupped my butt.”

“I was completely mortified,” she added.

In order to escape the situation, the woman excused herself to go to the bathroom. At that point, she said, Franken leaned in and suggested that he accompany her. She grabbed her friend and fled to the bathroom without him.

The second woman told several people ― including one of the reporters for this story, Zachary Roth ― about the incident some years ago, but didn’t want it reported then. She said she didn’t tell anyone at the time of the incident because inappropriate behavior from men was not that unusual to her or her friends.

“Sexual harassment happens so often, you have to learn how to move on,” she said, describing her thinking at the time.

Several other factors also left her feeling powerless.

“I felt like I didn’t have a voice,” she said. “This man had all of the power, all of the authority. In addition, he is a white man and I am a woman of color. I was 21 years old. And I was afraid that he would use all of those privileges to discredit me, to make me feel even smaller than I already felt.”

Today, she said, she feels more confident, in part thanks to the flood of women who have come forward over the last month to share stories of sexual harassment by powerful men.

“I couldn’t see all these other women come forward and not walk the walk myself,” she said. “I wanted my report to be a way for other women to say, ‘Yes, that happened to me and I don’t have to be afraid.’”

Like the second woman, the first woman waited years before deciding to go public with her story.

She laughed off the incident at the time, she said, even telling other people about it as a sort of “party trick.” It wasn’t until recently, she said, that she felt safe talking about how uncomfortable she’d felt.

Two More Women Accuse Sen. Al Franken Of Inappropriate Touching
 

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some of this shyt is :patrice:


like the only way to be appropriate is to be socially awkward
 
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