Essential Quick Lil Gems on Dealing with Women

[philmonroe]

the line between men and women being groupies is close one, but I think there is a notable difference in a majority of the cases. most men dont want to eat off another womans plate. women begin to fall in love with a famous man and start picturing the fancy restaraunts theyll go to, the famous scenes theyll be at, the attention, and what will change in their lifestyle as they get this man to be theirs.

when a man starts drooling over these bad chicks, its just mostly around how she looks and how much he wants to fukk her.

but if you throw in a random instagram broad with nice hips and a big ass guess what? the same men are thinking the same thing and saying the same thing as before. how much they want to fukk her and how good she looks. men dont be talking about oprah like shes bad or nothing. the status isnt as important as her looks for most of us.

while attraction plays a part in the groupie syndrome, I think if you really look, youll see that women think with their pussies how to enhance their wallets and their lives, while men think with our dikk just in how we can get more to fukk.

The reason that is is because we are raised differently. Of course most dudes aren't thinking about a chicks money but lets compare apples to apples here. A man wants females looks so thats what he is being a groupie about and women want status and what comes with it so they are being a groupie on that. Both sexes are "groupies" just in different ways.

 

[kevm3]

I think that would be the number one problem for someone who is famous. because everyone who is with you knew you from your status first, and will always expect a certain something when with you. and when it gets cold, you just lost a big part of what attracted them to begin with. itd have me thinkin fukk a relationship, if my status preceeded me that much, I wouldnt be committed to someone who wasnt a day one.

look at these men being taken to the cleaners. you think if he stayed with his ace numero uno from back in the day and stayed away from the craziness they might have had a better chance.

Man that's why I go so hard on filtering women. I've had women like me just because other women liked me or because "you're not like those other guys, you're not paying me attention." I mean how in the world is that a reason to like me? lol joint is crazy. With how a lot of women deal with men, it seems like the less she knows about you the more she likes you... You see how these women fawn over a celebrity, but once that celebrity lets one of those women in their world, her whole personality changes and she breaks that negro down and takes his money? She was willing to do anything for that athlete when she was just a little groupie and he was out there shining on her and not paying her much mind... but once she is in his world and has his kid, she treats that negro like he ain't nothing but trash. Just look at what happened with Chad Ocho Cinco and his baby mom... she is trying to put him in jail despite him buying her a house and paying 5gs in child support. He's unemployed and a few days late on the payment and she wants to put him in jail? Disgusting.

On the other hand, I feel men don't really start liking a woman until they know more about her. Like I see a fine girl and I can say I like how she LOOKS, but I'm not really going to say I like her until I'm able to assess her and find things about her character that impress me.

 

[CrossBones]

I mean unless somebody real young, relationship inexperienced, and/or stupid who don't know this depending on the chick like you said? I also feel alot of people would and have thrown loyalty out the way for way less than a celebrity thats why I would have prefered dude to use a different example. That isn't saying much imo saying people go for "mythical" types you don't rarely see in person athletes, actors, politicans, other famous/rich types. I guess since this is common knowledge to me and my cirlcle shyt just seems stupid to say but I have to realize its alot of lost cats out here.

its more common than you think. matter of fact, women been like this forever. but if its up to them, theyll hide it and let you know about it when its too late. these are the games people play when youre only starting to know about them. how many girls just gonna up and tell you "I fukked this celeb and I would have liked to gone to bed with this famous man too"

they mostly want you to think what? "Im the most down to earth person you going to meet."

yeah yeah its common sense, but common sense also tells us that marriage and monogamy to a woman who aint about that, shouldnt be done. but do you see that when you look at todays single moms and alimony payments?

you can look at the divorce rates today and tell me just how common is that common sense?

this thread is about men dispelling the bullshyt and knowing how to handle what they try to throw at you. we hear plenty of times that its not what you make, its the mans heart that counts. its not how much you give her, its that you love her more than anyone else. right? like a mans value is his character and not his status. but we know thats largely not the case.

brothers we all needed to get our eyes checked and their hearing checked so we know that we're not accepting any old mess they try to kick. not only is hypergamy real, its inherent in most women. its even encouraged by society. so it is what its goin be. recognize that married, and devoted women will kick that to the side over anothers status and overall perception they have over other. its a dirty game.

 

[kevm3]

It's a trip man. It's a dude with his woman and then another dude beats the guy with the woman up and the broad will go to the dude that knocked her man out and try to get on his team. What kind of trash is that? Some of these broads are so disloyal that as soon as you go through a rough patch or if you lose to your enemy, they will literally jump ship to the enemy.

That's why I respect that one clip where that one cat was getting jumped at gamestop and his wife jumped in. THAT'S the type of woman you shoot an exclusive deal. Knowing all of this that we've been kicking in this thread is why I am in NO rush to shoot exclusive deals. Screw that, a woman got to grind hard to earn that.

 

[CrossBones]

The reason that is is because we are raised differently. Of course most dudes aren't thinking about a chicks money but lets compare apples to apples here. A man wants females looks so thats what he is being a groupie about and women want status and what comes with it so they are being a groupie on that. Both sexes are "groupies" just in different ways.

but we're not gassed off the status like them. that what groupism is really about. we're not trying to be eating off her plate like that. we dont talk like that off hand, we're just not wired like that.

the groupism is something that is not so much an attraction to just their body and looks like men do, it has to do with women parasiting off what the star has made for themselves. and women do that like their lives depended on it. men want to say "I hit that" first and foremost.

 

[Wild self]

its more common than you think. matter of fact, women been like this forever. but if its up to them, theyll hide it and let you know about it when its too late. these are the games people play when youre only starting to know about them. how many girls just gonna up and tell you "I fukked this celeb and I would have liked to gone to bed with this famous man too"

they mostly want you to think what? "Im the most down to earth person you going to meet."

yeah yeah its common sense, but common sense also tells us that marriage and monogamy to a woman who aint about that, shouldnt be done. but do you see that when you look at todays single moms and alimony payments?

you can look at the divorce rates today and tell me just how common is that common sense?

this thread is about men dispelling the bullshyt and knowing how to handle what they try to throw at you. we hear plenty of times that its not what you make, its the mans heart that counts. its not how much you give her, its that you love her more than anyone else. right? like a mans value is his character and not his status. but we know thats largely not the case.

brothers we all needed to get our eyes checked and their hearing checked so we know that we're not accepting any old mess they try to kick. not only is hypergamy real, its inherent in most women. its even encouraged by society. so it is what its goin be. recognize that married, and devoted women will kick that to the side over anothers status and overall perception they have over other. its a dirty game.

Hypergamy is meant to make most people unhappy. Most women are fighting for the same small number of men, so they end up being jumpoffs or side bytches for them. Only a few men really prosper cause most don't know what we know in this thread.

Disgusting

 

[MikelArteta]

Hypergamy is meant to make most people unhappy. Most women are fighting for the same small number of men, so they end up being jumpoffs or side bytches for them. Only a few men really prosper cause most don't know what we know in this thread.

Disgusting

yup and then they get older and they as that word is ":settle down"

 

[philmonroe]

its more common than you think. matter of fact, women been like this forever. but if its up to them, theyll hide it and let you know about it when its too late. these are the games people play when youre only starting to know about them. how many girls just gonna up and tell you "I fukked this celeb and I would have liked to gone to bed with this famous man too"

they mostly want you to think what? "Im the most down to earth person you going to meet."

yeah yeah its common sense, but common sense also tells us that marriage and monogamy to a woman who aint about that, shouldnt be done. but do you see that when you look at todays single moms and alimony payments?

you can look at the divorce rates today and tell me just how common is that common sense?

this thread is about men dispelling the bullshyt and knowing how to handle what they try to throw at you. we hear plenty of times that its not what you make, its the mans heart that counts. its not how much you give her, its that you love her more than anyone else. right? like a mans value is his character and not his status. but we know thats largely not the case.

brothers we all needed to get our eyes checked and their hearing checked so we know that we're not accepting any old mess they try to kick. not only is hypergamy real, its inherent in most women. its even encouraged by society. so it is what its goin be. recognize that married, and devoted women will kick that to the side over anothers status and overall perception they have over other. its a dirty game.

I agree with you that chicks do this but in all honesty most people aren't asking who you was fukking before me famous or not. shyt now if its one of my people I would know or hope you'd tell me but outside of that I won't know the true number or who it was so I just roll from there as far as seeing how she is as a person. I spoke on the divorce rates before and we know some of it has to do with dudes being so p*ssy thirsty and/or thinking they have no options. Thats why I'm moreso a proponent of changing yourself instead of spending to much time on worrying about women who its going to be hard to change wholesale to your line of thinking. Become an "alpha" if you not and use your skills in that way. If you wanna still promote your message too cool but personally that is my advice to everybody in here. All this we talking about but show of internet hands if you think we can put a dent in this way things are? Irl I'm accused of being a woman hater becaue I don't belive in paying for a womans time to "get to know her" and when I equate it to prostitution chicks get mad.

but we're not gassed off the status like them. that what groupism is really about. we're not trying to be eating off her plate like that. we dont talk like that off hand, we're just not wired like that.

the groupism is something that is not so much an attraction to just their body and looks like men do, it has to do with women parasiting off what the star has made for themselves. and women do that like their lives depended on it. men want to say "I hit that" first and foremost.

We will just have to agree to disagree on this cause to me you making excuses for mens bullshyt in this instance. I won't do women are groupies for what is their equivalent to men wanting big botty, titties, and/are whatever appeals to our core desires. I can't do that cause then I'd be a hypocrite and that I seriously try to stay away from. I even agree with you that men/women go after different things but from there thats where we disagree and don't think we will agree on this issue. I'm glad we can discuss differences in a civil manner though thats always cool.

Hypergamy is meant to make most people unhappy. Most women are fighting for the same small number of men, so they end up being jumpoffs or side bytches for them. Only a few men really prosper cause most don't know what we know in this thread.

Disgusting

Thats what I was trying to convey when I said instead of complaining shyt better use this knowledge to eat well. You know what to avoid how to minimize damage so use it cause chances of things changing to more of a true equal way of things probably isn't happening in our lifetimes. Knowing that either you going to play the game or sit your ass on the sidelines but the game going to go on with/without you.

 

[CrossBones]

The reason that is is because we are raised differently. Of course most dudes aren't thinking about a chicks money but lets compare apples to apples here. A man wants females looks so thats what he is being a groupie about and women want status and what comes with it so they are being a groupie on that. Both sexes are "groupies" just in different ways.

you know I dont mean to talk too much about this subject or appear like Im disagreeing with what youre saying. I only want to add on to what you said.

Im personally very weary when I hear about "our nature" and what we're supposed to, or not supposed to do. I never really belieed in all of it anyways. I think all of our goals should come from a rational, experienced, and civilized place. we shouldnt be influenced to go one way, just because our current leaders want us to behave and go a certain way.


and also, just because something is in our nature, doesnt mean that we cant overcome it and master it

I suppose the simple thing I should have said about all of this was, yes, women biologically want the powerful provider and protector. yes, men want to plant their seeds everywhere as often as possible.

its biological. (but not always the most beneifical thing to do in this day and age, where people arent living how we used to)

so as this groupie thing goes, you can see why its different and comes from a different place. women truly idolize the rich and famous lifestyle they can be provided for while in the care of a powerful man. and if he is strong and looks good, they can have even better genes for their child

and man wants a bunch of healthy bytches to fukk so his seed gets spread. "Id hit that" "I wouldnt kick her out of bed" "she looks good, Id beat" and all of those quotes go to either wealthy actresses, or unknown, ratchet facebook hoes who have a nice body. we look at them as nearly the same - if she looks fukk worthy or not. theyre all the same to us. a bytch is a bytch.

it is simple. its so simple I say that we overlook the shyt at times. I dont think the man in the hypergamy story from the gym would have chosen to marry a woman who pines for the affection of a stranger who happens to be in movies.

I say all this just so that we are aware of our drives, and not be controlled by it if we dont want to. I like that men and women can manage our lives into more than just urges, and we can make it what we really want it to be.

 

[philmonroe]

you know I dont mean to talk too much about this subject or appear like Im disagreeing with what youre saying. I only want to add on to what you said.

Im personally very weary when I hear about "our nature" and what we're supposed to, or not supposed to do. I never really belieed in all of it anyways. I think all of our goals should come from a rational, experienced, and civilized place. we shouldnt be influenced to go one way, just because our current leaders want us to behave and go a certain way.


and also, just because something is in our nature, doesnt mean that we cant overcome it and master it

I suppose the simple thing I should have said about all of this was, yes, women biologically want the powerful provider and protector. yes, men want to plant their seeds everywhere as often as possible.

its biological. (but not always the most beneifical thing to do in this day and age, where people arent living how we used to)

so as this groupie thing goes, you can see why its different and comes from a different place. women truly idolize the rich and famous lifestyle they can be provided for while in the care of a powerful man. and if he is strong and looks good, they can have even better genes for their child

and man wants a bunch of healthy bytches to fukk so his seed gets spread. "Id hit that" "I wouldnt kick her out of bed" "she looks good, Id beat" and all of those quotes go to either wealthy actresses, or unknown, ratchet facebook hoes who have a nice body. we look at them as nearly the same - if she looks fukk worthy or not. theyre all the same to us. a bytch is a bytch.

it is simple. its so simple I say that we overlook the shyt at times. I dont think the man in the hypergamy story from the gym would have chosen to marry a woman who pines for the affection of a stranger who happens to be in movies.

I say all this just so that we are aware of our drives, and not be controlled by it if we dont want to. I like that men and women can manage our lives into more than just urges, and we can make it what we really want it to be.

I hear you about "our nature" but truthfully it applies in this case. I don't think he would marry her either I was saying that the guy telling the story wouldn't tell the story if he was getting women as easy as the famous person was. Thats what I was trying to convey but probably did a poor job of doing so. I've this happen many of times where whining guy turns into when they are on the positive end of things. Well I guess we can agree cause this was all I was trying to say was that certain things are biological (even though not always benefical to us like you said) and its hard for me to punish biological urges that we all have trouble at times controlling. That was all I was trying to say in a long winded way lol. Good discussion mane :shake:

 

[CASHAPP]

The thing is that a mom USUALLY changes her views once she becomes a mom. So in her current state of mind, yes she herself would want a nice man to take care of her and her kid after daddy left. Ask the mom in her teen years when she had guys going after her? Might be a completely different story...I am witnessing that myself and I am assuming others around my age are as well.

All of a sudden the girls who were after the "trouble makers" or "bad guys" are looking for a good man to take care of her. In fact, one of my friends sister hit me up YESTERDAY and some of her exact words were "Women usually make the wrong choices in men that's why we end up screwed in the end". That came up because one of the girls from my past that I think I brought up in here could not figure out why I never let her back in.
Some get it and some don't. The girl who wanted to get back into my life...no kids. My friends sister - 4 kids...she will tell her sons to be a nice guy and get a nice girl.

Its easy to put these things together.

That is the thing I do not understand. They have been repeating that since like junior high to high school and then throughout the end of high school and college they go against it and do it anyway......

They talk about how it always happens in movies,entertainment,etc and .......they do it anyway. This is why it is laughable to me whenever you hear certain women(and we all know at LEAST one in our life) who brag about how they "men are easy to understand", when they themselves cannot even get their damn lives together.

There is this one girl at my college that I told kev about that although she did help me out with some big things, as of lately she has been going overboard when asking me for favors . An example of one incident(she did this two weeks in a row) that i mentioned to kev was when she said "send me the results"(for our physics lab assignment) without even saying please.

The first week i just completely ignored her and she brought it up in class how come i did not get back to her. The second week days ago she did the same exact thing and with the same "send me the results" without even saying please or at least acknowledging me by NAME like im her bytch boy.

And then I said something about "no please?" ....and then right away she texted back with please.

I show her the results,.....she doesn't say thank you and instead says "where is the rest' and i ask her what does she mean. I try to call her phone because i dont really like to text back and forth ....and it rings without an answer(like what usually happens with her) and she texts me back right away that she is in the library.

Even if that was true couldn't she have gotten out to speak to me? But most definitely we ALL know if it was the other way around, if we said "im in the library" we would get accused of being "selfish"


There is only a couple weeks left for the semester, Im seriously gonna straight up be cold to her and see that she gets the hint. Like i mentioned this semester she has done big favors for me that i appreciated.....like telling me about the vice president in admissions to go to to help with my tuition problem and having her get in the process of lowering it.

Like I said before I appreciated that. The thing is with men when we get favors done for us, for the most part(there is always some exceptions) we appreciate it. I notice with females with something like that, that this girl did for me, its like they say to themselves i did this for the guy so now i have the opportunity and chance to take advantage of him fully.

I also forgot to mention for that textbook for our physics class in the start of the semester, i actually downloaded the pdf version of the book and emailed it to her. I told her there was a limit for the file and it had to be downloaded from the email within a certain time period(i think it was september 30 or something) and she mentioned something to me about her aunt's computer not having the proper program to download it. So i dont think she ever downloaded the file.

So since then she has pretty much been asking me every week about whether i did the homework problems(our lecture professor assigns questions for each chapter and we get extra points for a test if we put them up). As of lately i have been doing most of the problems on the board in class.And it isn't like he collects the assignment or anything. I'm basically putting up the same problems and she knows that. So it is pointless for her to ask for them before class when they aren't' gonna be collected......AND the same problems with the answers are gonna be written on th board.

Its like she is just looking for any reason to "use me" and im getting sick and tired of it.

I help her with all this shyt and at first in the start after class we actually spoke to each other, but then recently she has just started to just leave without even acknowledging me(im gonna start doing that)

The funny thing is that one day I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of the girls who hits me up about wanting to have a relationship and expecting me to say yes.

After I have become a more professional man in status, health and fitness, confidence,etc. Whenever you guys get in situations like that later down the line years from now.....try NOT to get angry when answering their question.

The best thing to do is smile(or possibly laugh) and say "NO" very firmly!!

That breaks their spirit and gives them that karma they deserve.

 

[Akata Man Bromo]

brehs the 85 dollar passport renewal was my goat investment

punta cana crossed
next

houston 2013 all start
london uk for summer

just the anticipation of getting on a plane feeling is >>>>>>>>>>

how was DR breh??

 

[CrossBones]

I agree with you that chicks do this but in all honesty most people aren't asking who you was fukking before me famous or not. shyt now if its one of my people I would know or hope you'd tell me but outside of that I won't know the true number or who it was so I just roll from there as far as seeing how she is as a person.

shyt, I fukked with all types. moms, strippers, students, clerks, manager hoes, older women, beauticians, education workers, you name it. Ive heard them say all types of shyt, believe me. when they trust you, and feel accepted by you, you WILL hear what theyre about. they cant hide it for long if youre real with yours.

yeah, Ive heard about allen i, duane wade, val kilmer, a prince from the islands, baseball player I forget who etc etc. the girls told me that themselves. and if you hear her get excited about some celeb in a convo, and start turning into a verbal slut, you know what time it is

I spoke on the divorce rates before and we know some of it has to do with dudes being so p*ssy thirsty and/or thinking they have no options. Thats why I'm moreso a proponent of changing yourself instead of spending to much time on worrying about women who its going to be hard to change wholesale to your line of thinking. Become an "alpha" if you not and use your skills in that way.

theres always going to be a bigger "alpha." trying to be an alpha for the sake of getting newer bytches gets old after a while. some of us really look at the long term and want to be able to make something long lasting.

trying to be the biggest name, the strongest man, or the richest man is never going to happen. its a game.

discipline, the knowing of yourself, and even knowing about the game is more reliable. you can make yourself what you want to be. throw out what you want. forget about comparing and competing for this mythical top dog role. make yourself complete. find you a woman is on the same level and digs you, not just your muscles or alpha car. long term gaming means you step outside of that world and have yourself right, and build with someone who is of the same mind. not just playing into the rules of everyone elses life.

If you wanna still promote your message too cool but personally that is my advice to everybody in here. All this we talking about but show of internet hands if you think we can put a dent in this way things are? Irl I'm accused of being a woman hater becaue I don't belive in paying for a womans time to "get to know her" and when I equate it to prostitution chicks get mad.

the point is, we dont have to change the world, but we can help in promiting awareness for another. I dont need to come in here and be like, yall know this. its common sense etc etc, when the reality is that its not. men are accepting this behavior, and thats why it is what it is.

We will just have to agree to disagree on this cause to me you making excuses for mens bullshyt in this instance. I won't do women are groupies for what is their equivalent to men wanting big botty, titties, and/are whatever appeals to our core desires. I can't do that cause then I'd be a hypocrite and that I seriously try to stay away from.

Im not making an excuse, and if you feel so, you can point it out where I said that it even was an excuse. Im pointing out that men and women are doing the whole game on different levels to satisfy different needs. you need to break the game down sometimes

a woman that is a groupie, mainly wants to be about the next mans cash and status .... I dont even need to finish that story. it tells itself.

I even agree with you that men/women go after different things but from there thats where we disagree and don't think we will agree on this issue. I'm glad we can discuss differences in a civil manner though thats always cool.

then I dont see the disagreement. you might be looking at it in a certain way, but it doesnt clash with what Im saying at all.

Thats what I was trying to convey when I said instead of complaining shyt better use this knowledge to eat well. You know what to avoid how to minimize damage so use it cause chances of things changing to more of a true equal way of things probably isn't happening in our lifetimes. Knowing that either you going to play the game or sit your ass on the sidelines but the game going to go on with/without you.

but the world is not just what they feed you. you can be more than that. thats my point. it takes the know how and time to put in to find what you want to be, and not just what youre told to be.

if we all were followers, then we'd all be married with kids and divorced, stuck trying to "out alpha" one another and say its cool because women are just like that. but that goes nowhere. its a joke.

the knowledge that we share is so we can grow and add on with another, to aid in making the right changes in our views and lives. there wasnt any complaining as much it was us pointing out the game, and warning another or the shyt that can go down.

 

[CrossBones]

I hear you about "our nature" but truthfully it applies in this case. I don't think he would marry her either I was saying that the guy telling the story wouldn't tell the story if he was getting women as easy as the famous person was. Thats what I was trying to convey but probably did a poor job of doing so. I've this happen many of times where whining guy turns into when they are on the positive end of things. Well I guess we can agree cause this was all I was trying to say was that certain things are biological (even though not always benefical to us like you said) and its hard for me to punish biological urges that we all have trouble at times controlling. That was all I was trying to say in a long winded way lol. Good discussion mane

its all good man, we know what it is :shake:

 

[kevm3]

I'd love for the world to improve it's behavior and I will always encourage man or woman to act to their utmost moral nature, but I simply know that most people will not agree with what I'm doing.

It's crazy but I'm to the point where I have to go against my nature and just not do favors for women because they will actually TALK DOWN on you for doing so, as if they've seduced you with their 'female swag' and manipulated you into giving them what they want as opposed to you being generous and doing things from the kindness of their heart.

That's why I make sure to take the time to appreciate when someone does something for me or even gives me their time for the most part and I do my best not to take advantage of people. Nobody owes me a favor, so if someone does me one, I will show gratitude.

I remember one time a girl had seen me drawing and asked me to draw her. I did so and she showed me some of her drawings and I asked her to draw me. She said she would but never ended up doing it. She even asked me to draw her again, but I asked her when she was going to send that drawing of me. Apparently she was too 'busy' to do it. You think I hit her with that second drawing? Naw.

What irks me is a lot of these females aren't taught to RECIPROCATE. They just are out here to get as much as they can get to try to come up and shuck their host to the side after he's been drained, unless it's some dude she is crazy over and doesn't allow her to manipulate him. It's strange, but it's like you just don't naturally get gratitude and decent behavior from most women. They have to really like you and you have to constantly thwart their attempts to manipulate you into doing favors for them... kind of like some twisted little game you have to play. When you do too many favors for them, their like for you drops and they keep ramping up the favors until they try to get control over you, and if they do, they suddenly become bored with you and move on to the next man. It's just bizarre behavior, but it is what it is.