Question, what promise did Obama make the black community when running?

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You voted for that scum bag politician bi racial cac c00n mulatto George Bush clone fakkit?

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reply to this and call me whatever you want and accuse me of whatever, but you keep on admitting youre a blind idiot, c00n :krs:

Admit it...you voted for that scum because hes a mulatto, didnt you ? You were like :gladbron: at a mulatto who grew up with his white momma in hawaii, didnt you :usure:

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i think the issue is that there is less of a political cost to white presidents crafting or advocating overtly pro-black policies, so white presidents can speak on black issues without feeling the urge to throw in some "bootstrap" nonsense. whether the white president actually does something or not is a separate issue, the optics of white presidents speaking on black issues is not threatening to white people, so they can afford to show more sympathy with aggrieved black constituents venting their frustrations and whatnot. a black president doing the same must acknowledge how the scene will look to all voters, including cacs.

the moment a black person expresses disapproval of conditions in america that are not universal, many whites will take it as a critique of them or their ancestors. if a black poltiician directly addresses those concerns in a sincere and sympathetic manner, that black politician will be seen as a "radical, cultural marxist, socialist, wealth redistributor", basically any buzzword that you have been hearing from right wing cacs since obama got elected

the sympathetic white president is never going to be accused of using the force and resources of the government to only help blacks, sympathetic white people will just be seen as liberal, politically correct, or gullible. you notice how you almost never see blacks referred to as liberals, even when we are advocating policies no different from left wing white people? the cac brain has a filter to interpret our use of left wing politics in a far more sinister way, and this is being applied to obama, obviously.

a black president always will be treated like he is either stealing from hard working white people to give to lazy black moochers, or using the force of the feds to make up for slavery and jim crow by being tyrannical to outspoken white patriots.bacially, blacks are seen as either lazy or angry in american politics until the thing they are complaining about gains enough traction among sympathetic white people. conservatives conserve the status quo until their position becomes so ugly among more reasonable whites that even they have to abandon it (want to see a modern day example, look at the republican party's attempt to evolve on how it interacts with latinos)

obama got the lazy/hostile ****** treatment the moment he was inaugurated, he hadnt even had the chance to do anything yet. he is very sensitive about this, and with good reason considering how fox news reports him. fox went from being the mouthpiece of the government during bush's era-practically a state run, authoritarian organization that had no problems with the patriot act or starting bullshyt wars (except maybe former judge napolitano) to a constantly whining, "we are living in 1984" kind of network almost over night.

so i understand why obama is timid on black issues. i know it will cost him politically. i dont even care about black policies, but i still have a problem with his speeches to black audiences. i assume he keeps up the stop complaining stuff to remind the reagan democrats that there is nothing to worry about, but i have never heard him address any other group in this manner. this could become a troubling precedent that other polticians (even non-black) may think is ok. considering he is on his second term, i am less forgiving of his fear factor. he needs to man up when talking with black people about our concerns. cacs cant vote against him anymore. there are no excuses.

either that, or i want to see him start to talk to other groups like this. i want to see a bunch of white homosexuals told to stop complaining, or a bunch of fat, unemployed appalachians told to stop feeding their kids mountain dew in their baby bottles, or mexicans told to start learning how to drive like an american if they want to be more popular with the locals, LOL
So you're saying he's a bytch? Ok fair enough.
 

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i think the issue is that there is less of a political cost to white presidents crafting or advocating overtly pro-black policies, so white presidents can speak on black issues without feeling the urge to throw in some "bootstrap" nonsense. whether the white president actually does something or not is a separate issue, the optics of white presidents speaking on black issues is not threatening to white people, so they can afford to show more sympathy with aggrieved black constituents venting their frustrations and whatnot. a black president doing the same must acknowledge how the scene will look to all voters, including cacs.

the moment a black person expresses disapproval of conditions in america that are not universal, many whites will take it as a critique of them or their ancestors. if a black poltiician directly addresses those concerns in a sincere and sympathetic manner, that black politician will be seen as a "radical, cultural marxist, socialist, wealth redistributor", basically any buzzword that you have been hearing from right wing cacs since obama got elected

the sympathetic white president is never going to be accused of using the force and resources of the government to only help blacks, sympathetic white people will just be seen as liberal, politically correct, or gullible. you notice how you almost never see blacks referred to as liberals, even when we are advocating policies no different from left wing white people? the cac brain has a filter to interpret our use of left wing politics in a far more sinister way, and this is being applied to obama, obviously.

a black president always will be treated like he is either stealing from hard working white people to give to lazy black moochers, or using the force of the feds to make up for slavery and jim crow by being tyrannical to outspoken white patriots.bacially, blacks are seen as either lazy or angry in american politics until the thing they are complaining about gains enough traction among sympathetic white people. conservatives conserve the status quo until their position becomes so ugly among more reasonable whites that even they have to abandon it (want to see a modern day example, look at the republican party's attempt to evolve on how it interacts with latinos)

obama got the lazy/hostile ****** treatment the moment he was inaugurated, he hadnt even had the chance to do anything yet. he is very sensitive about this, and with good reason considering how fox news reports him. fox went from being the mouthpiece of the government during bush's era-practically a state run, authoritarian organization that had no problems with the patriot act or starting bullshyt wars (except maybe former judge napolitano) to a constantly whining, "we are living in 1984" kind of network almost over night.

so i understand why obama is timid on black issues. i know it will cost him politically. i dont even care about black policies, but i still have a problem with his speeches to black audiences. i assume he keeps up the stop complaining stuff to remind the reagan democrats that there is nothing to worry about, but i have never heard him address any other group in this manner. this could become a troubling precedent that other polticians (even non-black) may think is ok. considering he is on his second term, i am less forgiving of his fear factor. he needs to man up when talking with black people about our concerns. cacs cant vote against him anymore. there are no excuses.

either that, or i want to see him start to talk to other groups like this. i want to see a bunch of white homosexuals told to stop complaining, or a bunch of fat, unemployed appalachians told to stop feeding their kids mountain dew in their baby bottles, or mexicans told to start learning how to drive like an american if they want to be more popular with the locals, LOL

Great GREAT breakdown fam. I think you touched on every possible area of the conflict.

So you're saying he's a bytch? Ok fair enough.

No, he's actually opening the door for a re-evaulation of Obama's historical presidency. This quoted statement says it all:

the moment a black person expresses disapproval of conditions in america that are not universal, many whites will take it as a critique of them or their ancestors.

Without a shadow of a doubt, Obama had the perfect civilian history and political record. But if we/you admit, that part of the reason he was accepted(notice the word choice) is because he's not a "black person expressing disapproval of conditions in America that are not universal," you've all but admitted that his victory was HIS victory. And by that, I don't just mean, only Obama. But only a person of Obama's pedigree, academic standard, and centralist political nature.

Essentially, it sets up a dialogue asking, "How can this be a post racial America, if you have to hide your true feelings around the historical disenfranchisement of your own people." One simple answer is that he's a politician. He has to. But I think the answer should be/could be a lot more complicated.

I think most black people feel Obama not wanting to be confrontational on racial issues, is equivalent to him shunning/hiding the black community.
 

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What legislature could drastically change the situation of black americans? lets hear it

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i think the issue is that there is less of a political cost to white presidents crafting or advocating overtly pro-black policies, so white presidents can speak on black issues without feeling the urge to throw in some "bootstrap" nonsense. whether the white president actually does something or not is a separate issue, the optics of white presidents speaking on black issues is not threatening to white people, so they can afford to show more sympathy with aggrieved black constituents venting their frustrations and whatnot. a black president doing the same must acknowledge how the scene will look to all voters, including cacs.

the moment a black person expresses disapproval of conditions in america that are not universal, many whites will take it as a critique of them or their ancestors. if a black poltiician directly addresses those concerns in a sincere and sympathetic manner, that black politician will be seen as a "radical, cultural marxist, socialist, wealth redistributor", basically any buzzword that you have been hearing from right wing cacs since obama got elected

the sympathetic white president is never going to be accused of using the force and resources of the government to only help blacks, sympathetic white people will just be seen as liberal, politically correct, or gullible. you notice how you almost never see blacks referred to as liberals, even when we are advocating policies no different from left wing white people? the cac brain has a filter to interpret our use of left wing politics in a far more sinister way, and this is being applied to obama, obviously.

a black president always will be treated like he is either stealing from hard working white people to give to lazy black moochers, or using the force of the feds to make up for slavery and jim crow by being tyrannical to outspoken white patriots.bacially, blacks are seen as either lazy or angry in american politics until the thing they are complaining about gains enough traction among sympathetic white people. conservatives conserve the status quo until their position becomes so ugly among more reasonable whites that even they have to abandon it (want to see a modern day example, look at the republican party's attempt to evolve on how it interacts with latinos)

obama got the lazy/hostile ****** treatment the moment he was inaugurated, he hadnt even had the chance to do anything yet. he is very sensitive about this, and with good reason considering how fox news reports him. fox went from being the mouthpiece of the government during bush's era-practically a state run, authoritarian organization that had no problems with the patriot act or starting bullshyt wars (except maybe former judge napolitano) to a constantly whining, "we are living in 1984" kind of network almost over night.

so i understand why obama is timid on black issues. i know it will cost him politically. i dont even care about black policies, but i still have a problem with his speeches to black audiences. i assume he keeps up the stop complaining stuff to remind the reagan democrats that there is nothing to worry about, but i have never heard him address any other group in this manner. this could become a troubling precedent that other polticians (even non-black) may think is ok. considering he is on his second term, i am less forgiving of his fear factor. he needs to man up when talking with black people about our concerns. cacs cant vote against him anymore. there are no excuses.

either that, or i want to see him start to talk to other groups like this. i want to see a bunch of white homosexuals told to stop complaining, or a bunch of fat, unemployed appalachians told to stop feeding their kids mountain dew in their baby bottles, or mexicans told to start learning how to drive like an american if they want to be more popular with the locals, LOL

Nice breakdown. :obama:
 
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