Question to the ADOS, "no vote" crowd. Do you not see that this strategy will hurt ADOS?

[Reality]

It's my vote. I'm writing in Bernie.
I'm not going to be bullied into voting for a candidate that I don't like or support. It's really that simple.

this accomplishes exactly nothing. where was Bernie’s plan for black people in the primary? oh yeah, he didn’t have one. but you’re going to support trump now because of it (make no mistake, in practice, that’s what you’re doing). trash critical thinking skills.

 

[Mr Rager]

Can any one of you explain why asking for “tangibles” in the general election instead of the primary makes any sense?

This is where a lot of you sound politically retarded or like agents.

You literally wait until you have less leverage (Alternative is trash with Republicans, blacks make up less of the voting bloc in a general) and the stakes are higher to press the issue.

It’s pretty stupid. And this is coming from someone who thinks reparations should be the defining issue for black voters.

If you’re not actively involved in democratic primaries, but call for sitting out the general, you’re basically politically retarded and / or lack critical thinking skills. Sorry to say.

People were calling for tangibles in the primary. The DNC just ignored what everyone wanted, threw Biden at us and said "You're going to like this or else you're a Trump supporter"
I refuse to be held hostage by a political party that does not represent me or my interests.

 

[Mr Rager]

this accomplishes exactly nothing

That's the beauty of freedom of choice, my friend.

 

[Reality]

People were calling for tangibles in the primary. The DNC just ignored what everyone wanted, threw Biden at us and said "You're going to like this or else you're a Trump supporter"
I refuse to be held hostage by a political party that does not represent me or my interests.

Did you ever talk to family members about it? Canvas? Phone bank? If not, you’re basically just throwing a tantrum. And this makes no sense because Bernie himself had 4 years to put together something tangible for black people or at least know how to speak to us. He didn’t, and now you’re voting for him? How does that make any fukking sense breh? I mean really?

i talked with all my people and we supported Warren because we thought she was the best shot at getting reparations. It didn’t happen. But I’m not going to surrender the courts and all these other institutions to the right because it didn’t. You’re basically ceding ground that will take years if not decades to recover while also weakening the chances of future reparations.

Look at this logically not emotionally.

 

[Ducktales]

We don't all have the same goal. Some want the advancement of black people but too many other parasites in the mix:

- Actual agents
-Cacs
- people who want to go against established wisdom to be edgy and call others "c00ns"
- People who just want to use pro blackness as a platform to take shots at sub groups they hate (immigrants, bm, bw, frats, blue collar blacks vs white collar, interracial daters, hood ppl, suburb people etc)
-clout

Their arguments are always an appeal to negative or hateful feelings but never FORTHRIGHT positive action. Nothing good comes from a rotten core! Nobody about positive action would discourage voting. There aint no way to juelz that.

I don’t think every single person has the same goal at all. I was only saying there are people who legit are confused who could easily change their mind if they are not getting called names.

 

[Mr Rager]

Did you ever talk to family members about it? Canvas? Phone bank? If not, you’re basically just throwing a tantrum. And this makes no sense because Bernie himself had 4 years to put together something tangible for black people or at least know how to speak to us. He didn’t, and now you’re voting for him? How does that make any fukking sense breh? I mean really?

i talked with all my people and we supported Warren because we thought she was the best shot at getting reparations. It didn’t happen. But I’m not going to surrender the courts and all these other institutions to the right because it didn’t. You’re basically ceding ground that will take years if not decades to recover while also weakening the chances of future reparations.

Look at this logically not emotionally.

Lmao you're coming at the wrong person the wrong way my guy. I've canvassed for Bernie in 2016 and 2020 not to mention leading a phone banking effort in my area. Both. Times.
Which is why I am writing in the candidate that I believe in and support. Not the candidate that the DNC is forcing others to choose, while villifying those that don't want to play their game.
I don't understand what you see as illogical about this...I support candidate A so I vote for Candidate A. It's pretty black and white...

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

People were calling for tangibles in the primary. The DNC just ignored what everyone wanted, threw Biden at us and said "You're going to like this or else you're a Trump supporter"
I refuse to be held hostage by a political party that does not represent me or my interests.

And Bernie didn't offer you tangibles yet you're still voting for him































Checkmate





















They don't make agents like they used to

 

[Kenny West]

Can any one of you explain why asking for “tangibles” in the general election instead of the primary makes any sense?

This is where a lot of you sound politically retarded or like agents.

You literally wait until you have less leverage (Alternative is trash with Republicans, blacks make up less of the voting bloc in a general) and the stakes are higher to press the issue.

It’s pretty stupid. And this is coming from someone who thinks reparations should be the defining issue for black voters.

If you’re not actively involved in democratic primaries, but call for sitting out the general, you’re basically politically retarded and / or lack critical thinking skills. Sorry to say.

Facts

This forum was exposed when it came to primaries. "Tangibles" crowd largely ignored the process and blindly bashed every single candidate with typical "ThE dEMz!!" talking points. Didnt support any of the reparations candidates and was crickets when the last of them were blown out the race.

Same "tangibles" crowd celebrated Biden beating Bernie for the nomination because Yvette told them to and the non agent irl black people primarily went to vote biden.

2 weeks later those same people celebrating his win start the Jim Crow Joe and Crime bill talkimg points ad infinitum.

I called it out when it happened. As you imagine, crickets and excuses

 

[God Almighty]

They owe us Reparations.

Support for Black Small Businesses especially for Black male owned businesses.

Tackle the Black unemployment especially amongst Black males

Black male homelessness

Criminal Sentencing Reform

Mandatory DNA Testing at birth

Family Court Reform

Anti-Hyper Incarceration Policy

Intimate Partner Violence Policy Reform

 

[omnifax]

It may not be the he overwhelming message of ADOS but I’m telling you what is being fed to an uneducated demographic that I see with my own two eyes. And this is dangerous and will have a devastating effect on the community that believe these are the smart OG’s of their community. This is how we ended up like we are now. Discombobulated and divided.

Fed by whom? If I tell you that the overwhelming message from the heads of the movement and the majority of it's members is down ballot voting who's doing the feeding of this other message? If you observed someone IRL who is saying this and you now know that isn't the message of the group why don't you tell that to him and whomever he's speaking. If you see misinformation being spread it's part of your job to correct it not just critique the people who aren't even spreading it.

 

[knickscity]

That's the beauty of freedom of choice, my friend.

You do have a choice. But your choice wont help your choice win. Trump will certainly thank you for your service though.

 

[Mr Rager]

And Bernie didn't offer you tangibles yet you're still voting for him

Checkmate


They don't make agents like they used to

Yeah you got me breh.
Taxing millionaires and billionaires wouldn't generate any revenue that could be put into failing schools and rapidly deteriorating neighborhoods
Free college tuition wouldn't create education opportunities for economically disadvantaged kids
Full student loan cancelation wouldn't help pull young graduates out of debt and help them focus on building careers

And NONE of those things would benefit Black men, women, and children. Checkmate, you got me!

 

[knickscity]

Ironically, since Bernie has endorsed Biden, voting for Bernie is basically a double down of not making logical sense. But sure, it's your choice.

 

[Mr Rager]

And this thread in itself is once again putting the onus and blame on Black folks to get the 'right' candidate selected. So when it doesn't work out, once again Black people will be blamed just like in 2016

And I'm the agent?? Lmaoooo

But hey if you don't vote for Joe, you ain't Black, right????

 

[Mr Rager]

Ironically, since Bernie has endorsed Biden, voting for Bernie is basically a double down of not making logical sense. But sure, it's your choice.

You clearly don't understand the point or purpose of endorsements. This thread is not for you.