Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread

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Brehs...
I need all of your honest opinions on Jerian Grant.

What can the team do to help him?

Does he still have that potential?

Is he even a solid trade piece still?
The team is helping him by giving him role minutes off the bench. Let him figure out what works and what will keep him on the court and he'll stay on the court. The only thing that's REALLY keeping him off the court is his inability to shoot consistently. If he could do that the game would come so much easier to him since he's very aggressive offensively and defensively. A jumper would help him do the things he wants to do successfully.

Of course, all of the above is under the assumption that I believe he still has potential.

And yes, he's still a solid trade piece although I'm sure it's lessened somewhat by the DNP's but he's on a team where Calderon, Afflalo, and Galloway are playing ahead of him on the depth chart. Two of those players are having great seasons and one of those players have the cache that he doesn't have yet as a rookie.
 
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Brehs...
I need all of your honest opinions on Jerian Grant.

What can the team do to help him?

Does he still have that potential?

Is he even a solid trade piece still?
Grant is a great pick and roll player on a team that doesn't utilize it that often. Grant's trying to play without screens and he doesn't have much of a jumper, plus the team doesn't run that often. So while I think Grant definitely has some area's to work on, I think Fisher can do more to help him out too. I still think his ceiling is a solid starter in the right situation, but I don't think that situation is here at the moment. I like the triangle, but it wouldn't hurt to try and run some pick and rolls early in the shot clock more often, before the team gets into their usual sets at least.
 
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Brehs...
I need all of your honest opinions on Jerian Grant.

What can the team do to help him?

Does he still have that potential?

Is he even a solid trade piece still?

All he'd really need is a consistent high pick and roll to work from like 90% of the PG's in the league get. He calls for it more than anyone else even now, but he should be sprinting down and running it before the defense gets set...that's just not really how the system is designed. One his jumper falls, everything else will fall into place and an offseason of strength training will go a long way toward finishing inside and not getting knocked off balance so easily too.

The team needs to implement more pick and rolls mainly. They'd do well to make some sharp off ball cuts instead of waiting on the play to unfold as well.

His potential is still pretty high, but he can't get anywhere until the jumper gets consistency.

His trade value is probably lower than it should be right now and I'd hang on to him and develop him regardless. He's a big PG, has good vision and can make difficult passes. His shooting, ball handling and strength can all be improved while some of the tools he already has are tough to teach. He's a rookie that'll take time to grow, but if we can get a 6'5 solid defensive PG out of it; it'll be worth the wait.
 

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Brehs was Afflalo cooking this much these past years? I only have vague memories of him in Denver (I think) as more of a spot-up shooter...don't even remember where he played afterwards?

This is a lot more like Orlando Afflalo than Denver or Portland Afflalo. He was cooking for a couple of years in Orlando and was a pretty valued commodity for a bit; but between struggling in Denver, injuries in Portland and the fact that he didn't do his numbers for a winning team...people started to overlook that he's got experience as a go to guy.
 

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This is a lot more like Orlando Afflalo than Denver or Portland Afflalo. He was cooking for a couple of years in Orlando and was a pretty valued commodity for a bit; but between struggling in Denver, injuries in Portland and the fact that he didn't do his numbers for a winning team...people started to overlook that he's got experience as a go to guy.

Props, I think I somehow managed not to see him play ever since he left Denver :dead:

As long as he's cooking for us it's all good :ahh:
 

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Brehs was Afflalo cooking this much these past years? I only have vague memories of him in Denver (I think) as more of a spot-up shooter...don't even remember where he played afterwards?

Yes. He's always been a great shooter, very efficient. He shot 45% from the field (same as 'Melo) and 38.5% from 3 for his career before he came to NY.

He doesn't average 20 ppg because his teammates get more shots. He played with 'Melo for 3 years, so in Denver, the offense ran through 'Melo. In Detroit, it ran through 10 other people with Rip being the main guy. His 1st year in Orlando, it ran through Tobias. 2nd year in Orlando, it ran through him, which is why his ppg went up to 18. When he gets at least 11 shots, he gives you 15 or more ppg.

His defense is what has dropped off since coming to NY.
 
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How Lance Thomas’ grueling summer made him Knicks weapon
By Marc Berman
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While Knicks coach Derek Fisher is always finagling with his bench rotation, he doesn’t mess with Lance Thomas’ minutes.

They have remained constant. It is no surprise. Thomas has been long regarded as the coach’s favorite Knick — even if his profile with fans still is lacking.



Thomas has been their most consistent bench piece and on another roll — having scored in double figures in five straight games, and seven of the past eight. He’s not going away. In fact, Thomas, Brooklyn-born and raised in Scotch Plains, N.J., is playing his way into a potentially handsome contract next July.

In the offseason, Thomas added range to his jump shot, becoming a legitimate 3-point threat. Training in New Orleans, Thomas said he was lofting 500 to 600 shots a day, sometimes twice that if he did a two-a-day session.

Thomas gained 15 pounds of muscle in the offseason, with a renewed dedication to weightlifting. Defense, hustle and 3-point shooting have kept him in Fisher’s penthouse and even have the coaching staff considering starting him over underachieving center Robin Lopez and moving Kristaps Porzingis to center.

Thomas is averaging 8.2 points, 2.0 rebounds and shooting 47 percent. His 3-point percentage of 41.5 is second-best on the Knicks. His 52 3-point attempts is more than double the number he took in his first four seasons combined (23).

“I feel like I’m in the best shape of my career right now,’’ Thomas said, referring to his weight gain. “It’s helping me defensively. My rebounding numbers don’t show it, but I’m holding off guys, allowing guards to come in and get rebounds. I feel a lot stronger on the floor without fatigue, which is something that’s amazing. It’s hard not to play the game tired. I don’t feel tired when I’m out there. I’m giving all on defense but still have something in the tank on offense and taking advantage.’’

When the Knicks embarked on free agency in July, the scuttlebutt at Las Vegas summer league was how hard forward Thomas had been working on his shot. It wasn’t surprising the Knicks re-signed him to a one-year, $1.5 million deal. But even considering Fisher’s infatuation with Thomas, few figured he’d be in the rotation.

“Coaches do appreciate guys who don’t appear to be as talented or have statistics that stand out the most, but do things coaches appreciate,’’ Fisher said. “Those are things important to me. My evaluation of performance, I’m not looking at field-goal percentage and points, but how committed are you to things that don’t stand out on the stat sheet?’’

It’s almost the one-year anniversary of Phil Jackson breaking up the 2014-15 team and obtaining Thomas as a throwaway of sorts in the Iman Shumpert/J.R. Smith three-team fire sale with Cleveland and Oklahoma City on Jan. 5. The Knicks waived Thomas’ non-guaranteed pact and signed him to a 10-day deal. Now he’s earned Carmelo Anthony’s respect as the lone Knick who can guard all five positions.

“I trust my work ethic,” said Thomas, a co-captain on Duke’s 2010 NCAA title team but who didn’t always start. “I knew after the first couple of years in the NBA what I had to work on to make an impact.”

Link: http://nypost.com/2015/12/20/how-lance-thomas-grueling-summer-made-him-knicks-weapon/
 

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How Lance Thomas’ grueling summer made him Knicks weapon
By Marc Berman
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While Knicks coach Derek Fisher is always finagling with his bench rotation, he doesn’t mess with Lance Thomas’ minutes.

They have remained constant. It is no surprise. Thomas has been long regarded as the coach’s favorite Knick — even if his profile with fans still is lacking.



Thomas has been their most consistent bench piece and on another roll — having scored in double figures in five straight games, and seven of the past eight. He’s not going away. In fact, Thomas, Brooklyn-born and raised in Scotch Plains, N.J., is playing his way into a potentially handsome contract next July.

In the offseason, Thomas added range to his jump shot, becoming a legitimate 3-point threat. Training in New Orleans, Thomas said he was lofting 500 to 600 shots a day, sometimes twice that if he did a two-a-day session.

Thomas gained 15 pounds of muscle in the offseason, with a renewed dedication to weightlifting. Defense, hustle and 3-point shooting have kept him in Fisher’s penthouse and even have the coaching staff considering starting him over underachieving center Robin Lopez and moving Kristaps Porzingis to center.

Thomas is averaging 8.2 points, 2.0 rebounds and shooting 47 percent. His 3-point percentage of 41.5 is second-best on the Knicks. His 52 3-point attempts is more than double the number he took in his first four seasons combined (23).

“I feel like I’m in the best shape of my career right now,’’ Thomas said, referring to his weight gain. “It’s helping me defensively. My rebounding numbers don’t show it, but I’m holding off guys, allowing guards to come in and get rebounds. I feel a lot stronger on the floor without fatigue, which is something that’s amazing. It’s hard not to play the game tired. I don’t feel tired when I’m out there. I’m giving all on defense but still have something in the tank on offense and taking advantage.’’

When the Knicks embarked on free agency in July, the scuttlebutt at Las Vegas summer league was how hard forward Thomas had been working on his shot. It wasn’t surprising the Knicks re-signed him to a one-year, $1.5 million deal. But even considering Fisher’s infatuation with Thomas, few figured he’d be in the rotation.

“Coaches do appreciate guys who don’t appear to be as talented or have statistics that stand out the most, but do things coaches appreciate,’’ Fisher said. “Those are things important to me. My evaluation of performance, I’m not looking at field-goal percentage and points, but how committed are you to things that don’t stand out on the stat sheet?’’

It’s almost the one-year anniversary of Phil Jackson breaking up the 2014-15 team and obtaining Thomas as a throwaway of sorts in the Iman Shumpert/J.R. Smith three-team fire sale with Cleveland and Oklahoma City on Jan. 5. The Knicks waived Thomas’ non-guaranteed pact and signed him to a 10-day deal. Now he’s earned Carmelo Anthony’s respect as the lone Knick who can guard all five positions.

“I trust my work ethic,” said Thomas, a co-captain on Duke’s 2010 NCAA title team but who didn’t always start. “I knew after the first couple of years in the NBA what I had to work on to make an impact.”

Link: http://nypost.com/2015/12/20/how-lance-thomas-grueling-summer-made-him-knicks-weapon/



:wow:

He's due his props. :salute:
 

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How Lance Thomas’ grueling summer made him Knicks weapon
By Marc Berman
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While Knicks coach Derek Fisher is always finagling with his bench rotation, he doesn’t mess with Lance Thomas’ minutes.

They have remained constant. It is no surprise. Thomas has been long regarded as the coach’s favorite Knick — even if his profile with fans still is lacking.



Thomas has been their most consistent bench piece and on another roll — having scored in double figures in five straight games, and seven of the past eight. He’s not going away. In fact, Thomas, Brooklyn-born and raised in Scotch Plains, N.J., is playing his way into a potentially handsome contract next July.

In the offseason, Thomas added range to his jump shot, becoming a legitimate 3-point threat. Training in New Orleans, Thomas said he was lofting 500 to 600 shots a day, sometimes twice that if he did a two-a-day session.

Thomas gained 15 pounds of muscle in the offseason, with a renewed dedication to weightlifting. Defense, hustle and 3-point shooting have kept him in Fisher’s penthouse and even have the coaching staff considering starting him over underachieving center Robin Lopez and moving Kristaps Porzingis to center.

Thomas is averaging 8.2 points, 2.0 rebounds and shooting 47 percent. His 3-point percentage of 41.5 is second-best on the Knicks. His 52 3-point attempts is more than double the number he took in his first four seasons combined (23).

“I feel like I’m in the best shape of my career right now,’’ Thomas said, referring to his weight gain. “It’s helping me defensively. My rebounding numbers don’t show it, but I’m holding off guys, allowing guards to come in and get rebounds. I feel a lot stronger on the floor without fatigue, which is something that’s amazing. It’s hard not to play the game tired. I don’t feel tired when I’m out there. I’m giving all on defense but still have something in the tank on offense and taking advantage.’’

When the Knicks embarked on free agency in July, the scuttlebutt at Las Vegas summer league was how hard forward Thomas had been working on his shot. It wasn’t surprising the Knicks re-signed him to a one-year, $1.5 million deal. But even considering Fisher’s infatuation with Thomas, few figured he’d be in the rotation.

“Coaches do appreciate guys who don’t appear to be as talented or have statistics that stand out the most, but do things coaches appreciate,’’ Fisher said. “Those are things important to me. My evaluation of performance, I’m not looking at field-goal percentage and points, but how committed are you to things that don’t stand out on the stat sheet?’’

It’s almost the one-year anniversary of Phil Jackson breaking up the 2014-15 team and obtaining Thomas as a throwaway of sorts in the Iman Shumpert/J.R. Smith three-team fire sale with Cleveland and Oklahoma City on Jan. 5. The Knicks waived Thomas’ non-guaranteed pact and signed him to a 10-day deal. Now he’s earned Carmelo Anthony’s respect as the lone Knick who can guard all five positions.

“I trust my work ethic,” said Thomas, a co-captain on Duke’s 2010 NCAA title team but who didn’t always start. “I knew after the first couple of years in the NBA what I had to work on to make an impact.”

Link: http://nypost.com/2015/12/20/how-lance-thomas-grueling-summer-made-him-knicks-weapon/


I don't like him. I really don't for whatever reason. Every time he comes off the bench I'm like :facepalm:. But I'll be damned if Everytime he shoots the ball it goes in the hole and he's defending like a beast. He deserves playing time. I just have a hard time saying that :sad:
 

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I don't like him. I really don't for whatever reason. Every time he comes off the bench I'm like :facepalm:. But I'll be damned if Everytime he shoots the ball it goes in the hole and he's defending like a beast. He deserves playing time. I just have a hard time saying that :sad:

Are you on that :mjpls:?

You just hate dude without a reason? :wtf:




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Let's hold on tight, brehs :wow:
 

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I don't like him. I really don't for whatever reason. Every time he comes off the bench I'm like :facepalm:. But I'll be damned if Everytime he shoots the ball it goes in the hole and he's defending like a beast. He deserves playing time. I just have a hard time saying that :sad:

He does have a strange style of play and more often than not I'm also like :whoa: when he shoots or whatever, but then I'm like :leon:

His double-clutch shot against the Bulls :heh::whew:
 
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