Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread

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Knicks hope to become premiere destination once again


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New York Knicks power forward Kristaps Porzingis (6) and New York Knicks center Robin Lopez (8) defend against Houston Rockets power forward Terrence Jones (6) with the ball during the 2nd qtr of the game at Madison Square Garden. (Gregory Fisher)
The excitement around Kristaps Porzingis and the arrival of Robin Lopez (now set to face off against brother Brook and the Nets) has revitalized the Knicks/Nets rivalry, a bit, but there's still a long way to go.

The rebuilding Nets are 5-13, but while still one game under .500, at 9-10, New York is on the right track. With that in mind, the Knicks are hoping to make the Big Apple a premiere destination for players once again. Perhaps more specifically in this case, the focus is on making donning the orange and blue an enticing opportunity.

"For the Knicks, we're in a pretty unique place -- we're not a taxpayer anymore," General Manager Steve Mills recently told ESPN. "We'll have cap room again. And the buzz that is happening here, with [Porzingis] and Melo, should certainly make us more attractive to free agents."

The emergence of Porzingis, along with the Knicks' ability to scout such a talent and have him go on to silence the critics, is changing the general perception of the team relativity quickly. Should Carmelo Anthony, Porzingis and Co. continue to steadily chase the light at the tunnel, the landscape of New York basketball should change rather quickly as well, especially if the team is able to reel in a promising free agent or two next summer. As Mills alludes to, they'll certainly have the flexibility to keep making improvements.

The positive atmosphere and the change in culture is something players are already taking note of.

"I want to finish my career here," Arron Afflalo said. "Having a good young player and a winning team should help us get other guys."

The guard holds a player option for next season.

Afflalo proved to be New York's top free agent acquisition this past summer, which led to doubt that the Knicks could reel in a more marquee player if they wanted to.

"Our inability to pitch was overstated," Mills said.

"Agents have told me there are a lot of players that feel really good about the Knicks, but they want to see things translate into something positive on the court first," the executive revealed.

But thanks to a healthy Anthony, Porzingis, and a seemingly unified collective effort from all, prospective players may be finding what they're looking for sooner than expected.
 

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Knicks hope to become premiere destination once again


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New York Knicks power forward Kristaps Porzingis (6) and New York Knicks center Robin Lopez (8) defend against Houston Rockets power forward Terrence Jones (6) with the ball during the 2nd qtr of the game at Madison Square Garden. (Gregory Fisher)
The excitement around Kristaps Porzingis and the arrival of Robin Lopez (now set to face off against brother Brook and the Nets) has revitalized the Knicks/Nets rivalry, a bit, but there's still a long way to go.

The rebuilding Nets are 5-13, but while still one game under .500, at 9-10, New York is on the right track. With that in mind, the Knicks are hoping to make the Big Apple a premiere destination for players once again. Perhaps more specifically in this case, the focus is on making donning the orange and blue an enticing opportunity.

"For the Knicks, we're in a pretty unique place -- we're not a taxpayer anymore," General Manager Steve Mills recently told ESPN. "We'll have cap room again. And the buzz that is happening here, with [Porzingis] and Melo, should certainly make us more attractive to free agents."

The emergence of Porzingis, along with the Knicks' ability to scout such a talent and have him go on to silence the critics, is changing the general perception of the team relativity quickly. Should Carmelo Anthony, Porzingis and Co. continue to steadily chase the light at the tunnel, the landscape of New York basketball should change rather quickly as well, especially if the team is able to reel in a promising free agent or two next summer. As Mills alludes to, they'll certainly have the flexibility to keep making improvements.

The positive atmosphere and the change in culture is something players are already taking note of.

"I want to finish my career here," Arron Afflalo said. "Having a good young player and a winning team should help us get other guys."

The guard holds a player option for next season.

Afflalo proved to be New York's top free agent acquisition this past summer, which led to doubt that the Knicks could reel in a more marquee player if they wanted to.

"Our inability to pitch was overstated," Mills said.

"Agents have told me there are a lot of players that feel really good about the Knicks, but they want to see things translate into something positive on the court first," the executive revealed.

But thanks to a healthy Anthony, Porzingis, and a seemingly unified collective effort from all, prospective players may be finding what they're looking for sooner than expected.
We comming :nycry:
 

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Anthony, Fisher Hold Keys to Knicks' Hopes


NEW YORK—The New York Knicks have already exceeded most expectations through the early part of the season by working to a 9-10 record through their first 19 games. A 9-10 mark puts them on pace to win approximately 39 games on the year, far ahead of the ESPN Summer Forecast projection of 25 wins.

Still, consistency remains elusive. After starting the season 2-1, the Knicks lost three, won two, lost two, won four and lost four before defeating the hapless Philadelphia 76ers on Wednesday.

We've seen glimpses of a playoff-caliber team, and rookie forward Kristaps Porzingis has been a welcome revelation. But the Knicks need head coach Derek Fisher and veteran forward Carmelo Anthony to figure it out if this team is going anywhere.



Lack of rotation consistency
Fisher hasn't had one five-man group that's played together in every game this season. According to NBA.com, only three five-man groups have been used in more than half of New York's games this year.

The team's starting lineup of Jose Calderon, Arron Afflalo, Anthony, Porzingis and Robin Lopez has appeared in just 10 games together. Afflalo missed the first eight games of the season with an injury and Anthony sat out last Sunday's loss to the Houston Rockets with an illness.

That group—the only one guaranteed to see action in every game in which all five players are healthy—is outscoring opponents by 6.2 points per 100 possessions when on the floor together, per NBA.com, a very good mark.

The other two lineups that have appeared in more than half the Knicks' games, though, have not fared quite as well. Those lineups are Fisher's two all-bench units. Jerian Grant, Langston Galloway, Derrick Williams, Lance Thomas and Kevin Seraphin have played together in 12 games and been outscored by 15.4 points per 100 possessions. The same group with Kyle O'Quinn subbed in for Seraphin has appeared in 11 games and been outscored by 2.4 points per 100 possessions.

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Beyond the starters and backup guards, nobody sees guaranteed minutes on a night-to-night basis. Fisher himself essentially confirmed this to the Wall Street Journal last week.

“Nothing’s set in stone,” Fisher said, after a loss to the Miami Heat, the first of four straight games the team dropped. “There are nights where you’re looking for certain things, and the way teams are using certain substitution patterns, by going small, we have to go a little deeper into our bench. It’s worked well for us so far, but tonight, [against Miami] it didn’t.”

Take a look at the following chart, which shows how often the team's five backup big men—Williams, Thomas, Seraphin, O'Quinn and Lou Amundson—have played a certain number of minutes on a night-to-night basis.

MIN Amundson O'Quinn Seraphin Thomas Williams
20+ 1 2 2 9 2
15-19 0 4 2 5 8
10-14 1 5 2 3 3
5-9 4 1 5 1 3
1-4 1 5 4 1 2
DNP 3 2 4 0 1
Led Group 2 5 1 11 1
The last two rows give you an idea of how quickly these players—Thomas excepted—have fallen in and out of Fisher's favor early in the season. Amundson, O'Quinn and Seraphin have all led the group in minutes on at least one occasion, but they've also all received at least two DNPs (Did Not Play).

Take a look at the following chart to illustrate just how volatile their minutes totals have been:

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To boot, the Knicks have only six players on the 2015-16 roster that were present on the 2014-15 roster: Anthony, Calderon, Galloway, Thomas, Amundson and Cleanthony Early, and the latter two rarely play. On most nights, approximately two-thirds of the team's rotation is comprised of players that have never played together before this year.



Young players and new players in sizable roles
The three players earning consistent minutes are simply too young and inexperienced to be counted on for high-caliber play every single night.

Rookies Porzingis and Grant are averaging 28.1 and 18.2 minutes per game, respectively, while second-year man Galloway is seeing 25.5 minutes a night. That's just under 30 percent of the team's minutes going to three players with an average age of 22. It's not surprising there's some inconsistency baked into their performance—young players are generally more inconsistent than older, more established veterans.

Porzingis has been incredibly reliable thus far—certainly more reliable than most preseason expectations would have had you believe. But both Grant and Galloway have seen their contributions wax and wane.

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Grant started the season as a transition dynamo and could still be the team's best guard in short order. But teams quickly discovered they could sink off him on pick-and-rolls, dare him to shoot and strangle his drive-and-kick prowess. He went three straight games without a field goal or an assist before figuring some things out over the last few.

Galloway, meanwhile, started the season shooting better than anybody in the league from beyond the arc. He's cooled down considerably over the last week and a half and seen his defensive effectiveness come and go.



Carmelo's shooting
Anthony's shooting has been the most important bellwether for New York's success since he arrived in 2011. Since that time, the Knicks have won 104 of 195 games in which Anthony shot better than 40 percent from the field and only 34 of 88 games in which he shot south of 40 percent.

This season, Carmelo has shot over 40 percent in nine games and under 40 percent in nine games.

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There have been many wild swings. He's made one-third of his shots or less in six games and 45 percent or more in seven. Only five times has he shot between 34 and 44 percent.

The Knicks are 6-3 in the games where Anthony has shot better than 40 percent and 3-6 in the games he has not. They lost the lone game he sat out due to illness.



Conclusion
If the Knicks want to compete for the playoffs, they'll need a more clearly delineated rotation. The roster volatility hurts worse with the prevalence of young players and new offseason acquisitions.

For a team as relatively undertalented as the Knicks, though, some variance can actually be somewhat desirable. The lows will be incredibly low, sure, but volatile performances can also lead to incredible highs. That's how you wind up with a team that was expected to finish near the bottom of the conference that has wins over the Oklahoma City Thunder, Rockets and Toronto Raptors as well as close losses to the San Antonio Spurs and Cleveland Cavaliers.

There's hope.
 

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He's not going to DC

Lakers and Knicks are the main 2 options aside from OKC



Durant would be the primary ball handler I believe. Melo would sacrifice the way Wade did.

Based on what??? Marquee names have always been linked to New York and LA all the time recently and those rumors ESPECIALLY regarding the Knicks are never true.

Can't offer him any real money. He's too old.
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But last season, when I dropped her in the fryolator - y'all were like :whoacarlton: "We all knicks fans, breh!"




You needed the @Malta co-sign before you came around :sas2:
Na
But last season, when I dropped her in the fryolator - y'all were like :whoacarlton: "We all knicks fans, breh!"




You needed the @Malta co-sign before you came around :sas2:
na once she was defending bargnani last year I was like:camby:
 
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