Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread

[Victim of Racism]

His FG% in the 4 20+ point games..
1. 29 points, 10/17 FG 58%, 2/2 3pt 100%
2. 24 points, 8/12 FG 67%, 2/3 3pt 67%
3. 20 points, 7/18 FG 39%, 3/5 3pt 60%
4. 20 points, 8/13 FG 61%, 0/1 3pt 0%

93 points, 33/60 FG 55%, 7/11 3pt 63%

You're reaching at this point.

No, you're reaching. All you have is 4 games, 1 of which is on 39% shooting. Most of his double-doubles were on terrible shooting percentages (like Chuck-brook's triple-doubles last season). He was shooting at 38% when Arron was out. He's still only at 42.5% with both 'Melo and Arron to distract defenses. Not to mention the other great shooters on the team. He's a poor shooter. He didn't have those big games against anyone. He's mediocre and doesn't deserve the attention. Towns and Okafor are crushing him on both ends, with no superstars to distract defenses, giving them open looks, no Rolo to box out for them, and while defending much better players. Yet, they're not sniffing the attention KP is getting.

Lin was averaging 25 points a game against elite teams and hitting game-winners regularly (not 1 in 18 games) during Linsanity.

 

[BAMBA]

F*ck statistics...all I know is The Big Kristapple got next...

 

[Liquid]

No, you're reaching. All you have is 4 games, 1 of which is on 39% shooting. Most of his double-doubles were on terrible shooting percentages (like Chuck-brook's triple-doubles last season). He was shooting at 38% when Arron was out. He's still only at 42.5% with both 'Melo and Arron to distract defenses. Not to mention the other great shooters on the team. He's a poor shooter. He didn't have those big games against anyone. He's mediocre and doesn't deserve the attention. Towns and Okafor are crushing him on both ends, with no superstars to distract defenses, giving them open looks, no Rolo to box out for them, and while defending much better players. Yet, they're not sniffing the attention KP is getting.

This is sad at this point. Are you sure you are a knicks fan and not just a Carmelo fan?

 

[Victim of Racism]

This is sad at this point. Are you sure you are a knicks fan and not just a Carmelo fan?

Call it "sad", call it what you want, but you can't call it inaccurate.

What's 'Melo got to do with this? Calling me a Towns or Okafor fan would have made more sense. You're clearly obsessed with 'Melo. And I could ask the same question about all the so-called Knicks "fans" in here who stand in line to drool over Lj.

I could also ask you the same question, considering how you stand in line to throw your own Superstar under the bus who has been the only one to play hard, well, and consistently for NY the whole 6 years he's been there.

I love KP. I just wish y'all wasn't so sensitive.

 

[Victim of Racism]

The Big Kristapple got next...

Name is . I might jack it if you don't watch your back.

 

[BAMBA]

Name is . I might jack it if you don't watch your back.

Spread the word...

 

[K-ZOE]

You had a different view, but it was wrong.

No, I didn't Google NY's 3-point defense to refute your comment. I already knew defending the 3 wasn't a weakness of theirs as you claimed. I stated that at least twice to someone else in this very thread before you ever posted your comment. I knew it from watching games, seeing their opponents 3fg% in boxscores, NBA stats, and Bball Reference. I only used that Google reference to make a point that you need to look it up, didn't have to be on Google.

The stat in question cannot and is not misleading. Bad defensive games here and there (which is what you saw) are misleading. To answer your question of why, KP has been giving up a lot of buckets late with all that switching on guards. He gave up 3's to Bosh, which got him going the last time NY played them. Sometimes Gallo will guard mismatches like Lj and Gerald Green and get either torched or in foul trouble. Defense (not from 3) was a problem in the Houston game from start to finish, but defense (from 3 or otherwise) isn't NY's problem, scoring is.

Not reading. I thought this died yesterday.

 

[puggle]

Okafor's actually performing considerably poorer than Towns and Porzingis in advanced stats. Porzingis is rated #1 in RPM as he has a strong defensive presence when he's on the floor. ESPN had an article based on this season's rookies.

Kristaps Porzingis already looks like the real deal.

The 20-year-old center leads all rookies in RPM (1.42) despite a mediocre offensive contribution so far. His offensive RPM is just -0.21, and it's reflected in his pedestrian shooting numbers: 41 percent on field goals, 31 percent on 3s and an overall 50.3 true shooting percentage (well below league average).

But the 7-foot-3 Latvian has had a surprisingly strong impact on the defensive side of the ball with a defensive RPM of 1.63. The Knicks have vaulted from 28th in defense last season to 17th this year, and the Zinger is playing a major role in their improvement.

His 7-foot-6 wingspan -- the longest in the 2015 draft -- gives him an ability to block 1.9 shots per game (ninth in the NBA) and disrupt the offensive flow of opposing players, whom he has held to a mere 45.8 percent on FG attempts within 10 feet of the basket (per NBA.com research).

According to our new RPM Wins metric, which gauges the net impact of each player on his team's win total, Porzingis has been a key contributor in helping the Knicks climb back into playoff contention.

Jahlil Okafor ranks dead last in the NBA in real-plus minus. This might seem surprising, especially since the big man leads all rookies in scoring, but the box score doesn't always tell us much about a player's real impact.

Okafor's nightmarish -6.02 RPM indicates that the big man actually manages to make the 0-17 Sixers worse with his play on both sides of the ball, no small feat.

How? On offense, the combination of his high usage, his low efficiency (mediocre shooting, high turnover rate) and the problems of creating good spacing around Okafor have become a deadly trifecta for Philly.

On a more positive note, while Okafor came into the league with a reputation for lackluster effort on D, his -0.53 defensive RPM, while far below average for an NBA 7-footer, suggests that he hasn't been truly awful on the defensive end. And at age 19, he has plenty of time to become better at both ends.

Now as this article correctly points out, these snap judgments/hot takes are only one month in so we can't fault Porzinigis for his sub 50% shooting just like we can't really fault Okafor for the Sixers' poor play when he's on the court. Just enjoy his play and let the kid develop. Things could definitely be worse, at least the Knicks head coach isn't Byron Scott.

The Jah Rules: Let's Stop The Snap Judgments On Okafor

 

[BAMBA]

Okafor out?

Either way,...triple double on deck tonight for Kristapavelli

 

[ALonelyDad]

 

[GollyImGully]

what? why say that?

 

[GhostoftheMan]

 

[Shogun]

:ww:

 

[DirtyD]

Stop conversing with this goofy motherfukker.

 

[KnickstapeCity]

:ww:

at that smiley.

Walter White/Heisenberg that's my nikkaaaa