MR. Conclusion
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What's the timetable on Affalo? Also who is our starting PF? KOQ? KP?
Or Melo
Or Melo
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Knicksman20
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You notice how we've put together a solid preseason so far & not many media outlets are saying much? Had we gone 0-3 we'd be hearing the criticisms about the off season & Melo very early
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What's the timetable on Affalo? Also who is our starting PF? KOQ? KP?
Or Melo
The starting lineup is set.
Calderon
Afflalo
Melo
KP
RLopez
They're stating Lance and Sasha as place holders. If anyone else was being considered, they'd get the start. Lance and Sasha are likely not in the rotation at all.
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MR. Conclusion
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Okay not bad. The sooner Grant takes over for Calderon, the better.
I guess we are going all in (
) on KP from day one.If we can find a way to add a two-way SG to this lineup, then we may really have something here.
Okay not bad. The sooner Grant takes over for Calderon, the better.
I guess we are going all in (
If we can find a way to add a two-way SG to this lineup, then we may really have something here.
I think we're hoping that Afflalo is a 2-way SG. :sadknicks:
The disrespect is
c00nin A in the cut waiting for some fukkery so he can go on another retarded rant (although they can be funny at times not gonna lie)
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They have us finishing second to last in the East
Knicksman20
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If he stays healthy he should be.
Knicksman20
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Jerian Grant is the latest Knicks player to pass a preseason test
"As preseason has gotten underway, the likes of Derrick Williams, Kristaps Porzingis, Kyle O’Quinn, and Kevin Seraphin (among others) have stepped up with impressive performances and displayed their potential for the season ahead. Coincidentally enough, each of these players is a new face brought in by Knickerbocker brass in hopes of sparking a turnaround. So far, so good, as it relates to both production and a change in culture.
Following Monday night’s win over the 76ers, it was clear to see Jerian Grant was the latest newcomer to pass his first unofficial preseason test for New York.
The rookie tallied seven points and six assists in the Knicks latest victory, the latter stat representing a game-high from any player on either squad. Grant did a variety of things one would be pleasantly surprised to see from a floor general, especially a younger one, who is getting acclimated to a different offense and new teammates.
His numbers may not be too be flashy, but his assist total was impressive. Even more promising was the way Grant carried himself. He had confidence, poise, and certainly appeared to command respect from his teammates, even at this early stage. The extra pep in his step means Grant likes to run and gun, with the ability to charge the basket with assertiveness. That same bouncy, energetic, and seemingly fun style was evidently infectious to the players he hit the hardwood with. He had gotten them excited to be playing. They were pumped up, and that should say a lot about Grant’s style.
As far as his passing goes, Grant found teammates, especially Williams, really well in transition. He has very good court-vision, and is able to see teammates in front of him, even while charging through traffic. What’s more, he appears to be able to push and/or dictate the pace and tempo very effectively. This is arguably more important than putting up numbers, especially for a point guard in the triangle offense. Whether the team was going fast or slow, there was a certain flow about the offense throughout, and that was largely in part thanks to Grant. He has a maturity level that is probably rare for other youngsters.
Thus, Grant clearly passed his first big preseason test with flying colors. He kept the offense moving and allowed teammates to cash in on easier scoring opportunities. That’s what counts. As the Knicks look to kind of mesh a more modern style of basketball with the triangle offense, Grant is looking more and more like the kind of point guard who could lead them, the more we see of him."
"As preseason has gotten underway, the likes of Derrick Williams, Kristaps Porzingis, Kyle O’Quinn, and Kevin Seraphin (among others) have stepped up with impressive performances and displayed their potential for the season ahead. Coincidentally enough, each of these players is a new face brought in by Knickerbocker brass in hopes of sparking a turnaround. So far, so good, as it relates to both production and a change in culture.
Following Monday night’s win over the 76ers, it was clear to see Jerian Grant was the latest newcomer to pass his first unofficial preseason test for New York.
The rookie tallied seven points and six assists in the Knicks latest victory, the latter stat representing a game-high from any player on either squad. Grant did a variety of things one would be pleasantly surprised to see from a floor general, especially a younger one, who is getting acclimated to a different offense and new teammates.
His numbers may not be too be flashy, but his assist total was impressive. Even more promising was the way Grant carried himself. He had confidence, poise, and certainly appeared to command respect from his teammates, even at this early stage. The extra pep in his step means Grant likes to run and gun, with the ability to charge the basket with assertiveness. That same bouncy, energetic, and seemingly fun style was evidently infectious to the players he hit the hardwood with. He had gotten them excited to be playing. They were pumped up, and that should say a lot about Grant’s style.
As far as his passing goes, Grant found teammates, especially Williams, really well in transition. He has very good court-vision, and is able to see teammates in front of him, even while charging through traffic. What’s more, he appears to be able to push and/or dictate the pace and tempo very effectively. This is arguably more important than putting up numbers, especially for a point guard in the triangle offense. Whether the team was going fast or slow, there was a certain flow about the offense throughout, and that was largely in part thanks to Grant. He has a maturity level that is probably rare for other youngsters.
Thus, Grant clearly passed his first big preseason test with flying colors. He kept the offense moving and allowed teammates to cash in on easier scoring opportunities. That’s what counts. As the Knicks look to kind of mesh a more modern style of basketball with the triangle offense, Grant is looking more and more like the kind of point guard who could lead them, the more we see of him."
GhostoftheMan
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What's the timetable on Affalo? Also who is our starting PF? KOQ? KP?
Or Melo
he's had hamstring issues in the past so they probably don't want to risk anything just for a preseason game/ it would be nice for him to get in the swing of things tho
Knicksman20
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Former No. 2 pick Derrick Williams emerging as offensive force for Knicks
Greg Monroe and LaMarcus Aldridge didn’t want to join the Knicks over the summer.
Derrick Williams did.
And the former No. 2 pick in the NBA Draft wants it known that he chose the Knicks and is intent on helping to turn the team around after signing a two-year deal worth nearly $10 million.
“Like I always said, when I got drafted [by the Minnesota Timberwolves] they picked me, I didn’t pick them,” Williams said after putting up his second straight 20-plus point game with a game-high 21 points on 8-of-12 shooting as the Knicks beat the 76ers, 94-88, to improve to 3-0 in the preseason.
“I chose to be here and Phil [Jackson] wanted me here and Derek [Fisher] wanted me here and as soon as I was done with the meeting I called my agent,” the 6-foot-8 Williams added. “Ten minutes after the meeting, I said I’m signing up.”
Williams wanted to be a Knick so much he never even spoke to Kings coach George Karl about possibly remaining in Sacramento, where he spent the previous two seasons.
“Nope, I didn’t really care,” he said. “I knew where I wanted to go.”
Williams saw parallels between the rebuilding Knicks and the Arizona team he chose for college over Arizona State, Gonzaga and Memphis once he decommitted from USC.
“The history, the rebuilding process, I like that as well,” he said. “That was the reason I chose Arizona, I wanted to be part of the rebuilding process and that’s what propelled me into the NBA. Same situation [with the Knicks], the prestige of this franchise. We had a couple down years and I just want to be part of the rebuilding process, and so far so good.”
It’s only been three virtually meaningless preseason games, but Williams looks to be far and way the Knicks’ most athletic player as he bounces and bounds around the court scoring on dunks, putbacks and even going 2-for-2 from the arc.
“I don’t think I’m surprised,” said Carmelo Anthony, who had 18 points in the win. “A lot of things that you guys are seeing right now are things we’ve been seeing throughout training camp and in practice…One thing about Derrick, he came into camp in great condition and in great shape. I think just coming here really challenged him to see how good of shape he can get in, his conditioning and you can see it’s paying off.”
On a night when Kristaps Porzingis didn’t play with a calf strain, Williams played in the front court with the second unit, giving it some much-needed offensive punch.
“You need that second unit,” Anthony said. “The second unit is guys coming off the bench, push the tempo if the tempo is slow, maintain the tempo, and so we need that bench. Our bench will hopefully be a big part of our success this year.”
Williams chose the Knicks in part because he knew they lacked a player with his athleticism. Bigs like Robin Lopez, Kyle O’Quinn and Kevin Seraphin are not nearly as athletic.
His ability to play multiple positions in the triangle offense could make him an attractive piece for Fisher and the Knicks going forward.
“I just try to be dynamic, man, just try to be all over the court and I think that’s what coach wants me to do,” Williams said. “I take on the challenge. I’m playing 2-3 spots and you gotta learn them. I want to learn them. I want to be out there on the floor as much as possible and show how versatile I am. It’s really shown the first couple games and I just want to keep getting better from here.”
Said Fisher: “Derrick’s versatility on both ends of the floor, he can defend multiple players. Offensively, he can do multiple things. We believe that if we can help him feel comfortable here, that he’s valued not just as a basketball player but as a man and that we’re behind him 100 percent and we can create a program around him that will help him be at his best, that it can work out.”
Williams concedes that he still only knows about “50 percent” of the triangle offense and is still learning what spots to be in, but believes he will grow into the offense and that it’s a good fit for him long-term.
And that’s why he chose the Knicks.
“I know probably like 50 percent of it,” he said of the triangle. “Just learning the reads, there’s a lot of reads that coming along with it. But we still got two weeks until the games count for real.”
Greg Monroe and LaMarcus Aldridge didn’t want to join the Knicks over the summer.
Derrick Williams did.
And the former No. 2 pick in the NBA Draft wants it known that he chose the Knicks and is intent on helping to turn the team around after signing a two-year deal worth nearly $10 million.
“Like I always said, when I got drafted [by the Minnesota Timberwolves] they picked me, I didn’t pick them,” Williams said after putting up his second straight 20-plus point game with a game-high 21 points on 8-of-12 shooting as the Knicks beat the 76ers, 94-88, to improve to 3-0 in the preseason.
“I chose to be here and Phil [Jackson] wanted me here and Derek [Fisher] wanted me here and as soon as I was done with the meeting I called my agent,” the 6-foot-8 Williams added. “Ten minutes after the meeting, I said I’m signing up.”
Williams wanted to be a Knick so much he never even spoke to Kings coach George Karl about possibly remaining in Sacramento, where he spent the previous two seasons.
“Nope, I didn’t really care,” he said. “I knew where I wanted to go.”
Williams saw parallels between the rebuilding Knicks and the Arizona team he chose for college over Arizona State, Gonzaga and Memphis once he decommitted from USC.
“The history, the rebuilding process, I like that as well,” he said. “That was the reason I chose Arizona, I wanted to be part of the rebuilding process and that’s what propelled me into the NBA. Same situation [with the Knicks], the prestige of this franchise. We had a couple down years and I just want to be part of the rebuilding process, and so far so good.”
It’s only been three virtually meaningless preseason games, but Williams looks to be far and way the Knicks’ most athletic player as he bounces and bounds around the court scoring on dunks, putbacks and even going 2-for-2 from the arc.
“I don’t think I’m surprised,” said Carmelo Anthony, who had 18 points in the win. “A lot of things that you guys are seeing right now are things we’ve been seeing throughout training camp and in practice…One thing about Derrick, he came into camp in great condition and in great shape. I think just coming here really challenged him to see how good of shape he can get in, his conditioning and you can see it’s paying off.”
On a night when Kristaps Porzingis didn’t play with a calf strain, Williams played in the front court with the second unit, giving it some much-needed offensive punch.
“You need that second unit,” Anthony said. “The second unit is guys coming off the bench, push the tempo if the tempo is slow, maintain the tempo, and so we need that bench. Our bench will hopefully be a big part of our success this year.”
Williams chose the Knicks in part because he knew they lacked a player with his athleticism. Bigs like Robin Lopez, Kyle O’Quinn and Kevin Seraphin are not nearly as athletic.
His ability to play multiple positions in the triangle offense could make him an attractive piece for Fisher and the Knicks going forward.
“I just try to be dynamic, man, just try to be all over the court and I think that’s what coach wants me to do,” Williams said. “I take on the challenge. I’m playing 2-3 spots and you gotta learn them. I want to learn them. I want to be out there on the floor as much as possible and show how versatile I am. It’s really shown the first couple games and I just want to keep getting better from here.”
Said Fisher: “Derrick’s versatility on both ends of the floor, he can defend multiple players. Offensively, he can do multiple things. We believe that if we can help him feel comfortable here, that he’s valued not just as a basketball player but as a man and that we’re behind him 100 percent and we can create a program around him that will help him be at his best, that it can work out.”
Williams concedes that he still only knows about “50 percent” of the triangle offense and is still learning what spots to be in, but believes he will grow into the offense and that it’s a good fit for him long-term.
And that’s why he chose the Knicks.
“I know probably like 50 percent of it,” he said of the triangle. “Just learning the reads, there’s a lot of reads that coming along with it. But we still got two weeks until the games count for real.”
MR. Conclusion
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Yeah I know about Afflalo, but my expectations for him this season were already low before the injury issue. Ideally I have him pegged as a backup. I would like to get an up and coming young guard with some real scoring ability and solid defense in this lineup. I know we have the triangle in place, but I would still like to add more scoring punch to prevent the inevitable return to iso Melo mode.
Then again maybe Afflalo will surprise me.
He hasn't been able to defend at even a B+ level in three seasons.