Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread

[Victim of Racism]

Do you think the players have given up on Fisher? Think about, we're halfway into the season & dude STILL doesn't have a set rotation. Plus that whole "process/playoff" noise probably turned some players off.

The team may just be tired, but it's possible, and I'd take Lue over Blatt. Blatt was trash. People who cape for him are so blinded by racist media propaganda (who is only yapping because the Afrikan took the Euro's place) that they can't see that having the most talented roster in the Association and Lj averaging nearly a triple-double in the Finals was the reason for their success, not Blatt's masterful ability to call time outs that he didn't have in playoff games.

The one common denominator that most (not all) elite teams have over NY isn't better coaching — it's more talent and more players that fit the system they want to run. One quick example: I love D-Will because he's a shot-maker, but he's literally as terrible outside of the paint as Lj — they're both shooting 32% from there (NBA.com/Stats — hit the circle in the right hand corner and select "basic view"), making him a horrible Triangle fit because one major component of the Triangle is that it gets you a lot of midrange jumpers, just like the Spurs' version of the Triangle, so just going to the rack isn't enough because come playoff time, teams will zone up.

I know it's unpopular to critique Phil's moves as an exec, but he didn't choose the right players for his offense; only 4 players are efficient on midrange shots. To compare: Eight of the Spurs are efficient on that shot. The Spurs didn't bring in LMA and D-West because they're "stars" — they did it because those 2 are great midrange shooters. The GSW's version of the Triangle gives you 3's; eight of the players on the team are efficient from 3. So, I'd make roster moves before a coaching change and I think come the offseason, Phil will get great fits for the offense, catapulting NY to impressive-status immediately. He could still make moves before the deadline too. I just believe in Phil as a b-ball mind and I believe his coaching choice was excellent. I can't see him firing Fish (who will run the Triangle Phil wants?), but stranger things have happened.

 

[thelonious21]

Yall should know..I'm not a hater..
But real talk.. yall aren't a good team.. firing fisher wouldn't change anything... legit yall got 2 players.. one being a rookie that you can actually expect anything from.. those games where affallo and Williams go crazy are far and few between and you see why those players have been on multiple teams.. unless yall trade for Jennings . (Which I wouldn't do) the roster isint made up to go to the playoffs right now

 

[g-ice]

By far the worst they've looked all year. Not even worth watching this game.

 

[Liquid]

This Might Be The Worst I've Seen Them, I'm Speechless

We really need to try and trade Melo man.

This is terrible how his career is going to be the next few years.

 

[The War Report]

And they're not beating The Grizzles tomorrow night either.

 

[BeatsBoxingMayhem]

Losing I can deal with. But losing added with apathy and overall poor effort? This game has me legit disgusted.

 

[RC998]

i'm disappointed

 

[PIFF101]

That play sums up everything

 

[Liquid]

And they're not beating The Grizzles tomorrow night either.

Melo missing free throws. This game is over

Season is over as well. Jennings scoring right at the end to top it off.

fukk the Knicks

 

[Trip]

We really need to try and trade Melo man.

This is terrible how his career is going to be the next few years.

It's more up to Melo than it is the Knicks.

 

[Liquid]

It's more up to Melo than it is the Knicks.

He needs to face reality, the Knicks are a fukking mess.

We need assets and he wants to win. This marriage doesn't work, it's time to move the fukk on already

 

[Trip]

He needs to face reality, the Knicks are a fukking mess.

We need assets and he wants to win. This marriage doesn't work, it's time to move the fukk on already

At this point, why would he care though? He's got it easy here...zero expectations and a max contract

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

We ain't making the playoffs this year

 

[ThaBronxBully]

Yall should know..I'm not a hater..
But real talk.. yall aren't a good team.. firing fisher wouldn't change anything... legit yall got 2 players.. one being a rookie that you can actually expect anything from.. those games where affallo and Williams go crazy are far and few between and you see why those players have been on multiple teams.. unless yall trade for Jennings . (Which I wouldn't do) the roster isint made up to go to the playoffs right now

We Know This Isn't A Team Full Of Talent, Problem Is We've Seen Then Fight, Scratch And Claw Win Or Lose

Tonight Looks Like A White Flag Performance

Its Early To Say But Brehs Are Right, Maybe They're Giving Up On Fisher

It's Hard To Say Cause Before The Injuries We Were Looking Ok, So I Dunno If It's A Matter Of All The Line Up Changes Or Are They Checking Out

This Team Needs The All Star Break In The Worst Way

 

[ikbm]

you nikkas need to shut the hell up with this trade melo talk
who the fukk is trading for melo at this point.....what team in TITLE contention is going to give up the necessary assets to warrant a melo deal
i dont want a first round pick from a team worth a damn cause the pick will be at the bottom of the first round...miss me with that dumb shyt
blake griffin is NOT coming here.
you nikkas just love blaming melo for everything but have no realistic answers.
these nikkas would be 5 and 45 without him...and i dont want kristaps to fester around and "develop" in a even more toxic losing environment....fukk around and have no hope for better days
shut the fukk up about melo...he's far from the biggest problem on this team.