Pusha T - The Story Of Adidon (Drake Diss)

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Actually tons of people have said that bout the Jay Z and Nas beef....the whole "Nas won the battle, but Hov won the war" thing has been a constant narrative amongst the rap chattering class for pretty much the entire 20 years since the diss... Jay fans tout his success in the Industry as evidence that losing a tit for tat against Nas did nothing to affect his standing in the game in the long run

And Pusha ain't Nas

Losing a rap battle is like getting dunked on in the NBA...cute for discussion's sake and all that... people still talk about that time Tatum dunked on LeBron in a he ECF a few years back...but LeBron is still LeBron...Hit 'Em Up and Ether ain't no a damn thing to stop Big or Jay from being GOATs...this Pusha track is like one or two teirs below that, and ain't did a goddamn thing to stop Drake from being the defining Hov level rapper of his we era

"Nas won the battle, Jay won the war" has been a constant narrative among Jay stans. That's it.

The two things are completely separate. Drake lost a rap battle. He is also still a major star and/or selling records. Same as any other rapper (LL, Jay, BIG, NWA, etc.) that was on the receiving end of an especially brutal diss record.

Nobody expected "TSOA" to end his career. Hell, I'm the biggest Drake detractor on the site and I told people the day this dropped it wouldn't affect him long term. Check the thread.

And yes, BIG and Jay are still considered GOATS....who severely got fukked up during their respective rap battles.

If you want to argue that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of their careers :manny: but again....one has nothing to do with the other.

And as far as Bron....he wasn't crying about getting dunked on for years afterwards. Hell, I'd say we're due for yet another Drake interview complaining that this song is just so mean. And probably a vague allusion to that phantom diss record that would end Pusha T....that he's just apparently too nice to drop.

Who shot ya > hit em up

blueprint 2 = ether

:gucci:

Never mind how ridiculous this is....it has nothing to do with what I said. There has never been a burden on a diss record to impact someone's career long term. I don't even know where the hell that came from.

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If Pusha really hurt drake then drake wouldn’t be able to drop a 3 piece with no bundle and still debate 1,2,3 on the billboard...

Reality setting it breh it’s over Push lost :mjlol:

Nah, I am good. I'd rather stick to reality. But by all means go on living in your fantasy. Pusha murdered Drake in the battle. I dont care about album sales or chart positions. Drake took that L. And went on to be a popstar. That does not detract from the fact he lost to Pusha.

You probably think Jay beat Nas as well in 2001, I suppose?
 
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"Nas won the battle, Jay won the war" has been a constant narrative among Jay stans. That's it.

The two things are completely separate. Drake lost a rap battle. He is also still a major star and/or selling records. Same as any other rapper (LL, Jay, BIG, NWA, etc.) that was on the receiving end of an especially brutal diss record.

And yes, BIG and Jay are still considered GOATS....who severely got fukked up during their respective rap battles.

If you want to argue that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of their careers :manny: but again....one has nothing to do with the other.

Sounds like we pretty much agree... This song is like the defining moment of Pusha's life on earth and a footnote on Drake's Wikipedia page detailing his legendary career as generation defining rapper
 

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Sounds like we pretty much agree... This song is like the defining moment of Pusha's life on earth and a footnote on Drake's Wikipedia page detailing his legendary career as generation defining rapper

That's a....bold interpretation of what I said. But ok. :yeshrug:

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The more I think about it....the Bron comparison legit has me :mjlol:

Imagine if Bron got dunked on....then refused to play the rest of the game.

Had J. Prince go on a book tour, to explain why Bron couldn't compete any more.

Then, when Bron did re-appear he swore he could've easily stopped the dunk....but chose not to.

Then continued to reference getting dunked on in various interviews for the next 2-3 years afterwards, like a Viet Nam vet having flash backs.

Yes Bron would still be Bron....but people would rightly reference all of that for the rest of his career.

The same goes for Drake. :manny:

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The more I think about it....the Bron comparison legit has me :mjlol:

Imagine if Bron got dunked on....then refused to play the rest of the game.

Had J. Prince go on a book tour, to explain why Bron couldn't compete any more.

Then, when Bron did re-appear he swore he could've easily stopped the dunk....but chose not to.

Then proceeded to reference getting dunked on in various interviews for the next 2-3 years afterwards, like a Viet Nam vet having flash backs.

Yes Bron would still be Bron....but people would rightly reference all of that for the rest of his career.

The same goes for Drake. :manny:

Fred.


LeBron LITERALLY had tapes confiscated of him getting dunked on at his camp :mjlol:


For LeBron James, getting dunked on was bad. Trying to suppress the tape was worse.

The comparison is more than apt...

And I get it...haters have to dwell on minor shyt to deal with the cognitive dissonance created by greatness constantly thrown in their face...I did for a long time with Bron...but at a certain point you kinda realize how meaningless and petty it is...the guy is arguably the greatest ever to play the game, but let me instead dwell on that one time some jabroni dunked on him at a summer camp
 

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LeBron LITERALLY had tapes confiscated of him getting dunked on at his camp :mjlol:


For LeBron James, getting dunked on was bad. Trying to suppress the tape was worse.

The comparison is more than apt...

And I get it...haters have to dwell on minor shyt to deal with the cognitive dissonance created by greatness constantly thrown in their face...I did for a long time with Bron...but at a certain point you kinda realize how meaningless and petty it is...the guy is arguably the greatest ever to play the game, but let me instead dwell on that one time some jabroni dunked on him at a summer camp

Confiscated tapes =/= doing multiple interviews referencing it, spanning a couple years. Let alone the rest of what I said.

I'd say either of these things are meaningless if mentioned out of context. If someone went in the "Drake has 1, 2, and 3 on Billboard" thread talking about this song....makes no sense. Likewise people mentioning his Billboard placement in relation to this song....is equally pointless.

Or if you were specifically talking about the dunk....for whatever reason, no matter how petty you think that is....and a Bron stan went haywire about how successful he is. People would look at them crazy. It's like...one step removed from Jay stans talking about how attractive Beyonce is, compared to Kelis. Or 50 stans talking about his Vitamin Water deal, when his sales started to fall off.

Some people look at celebrities like children look at super heroes so any flaw or L is damn near considered a personal attack. Drake is just the latest person to inspire this type of response.

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