Prophecy? Yep. Jon Jones, "I do believe I have the skill set to beat Cain."

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I never said he wasn't a threat breh. I'm a jones fan as well, I just don't think bones will best cain. knowing bones he's going to try and "out cardio" cain :russ: ..

either way they're not fighting so :yeshrug:, but if they do then we can take bets :lolbron:

If they fight, shyt might be like in 2017 or something. Long time from now. Cain doesn't really have any weaknesses to exploit, instead its up to Jones to use his main advantage as usual, range. Because to me, if you take Jones' skill set and simply scale him up to HW proportions, I don't see why his skills would all of sudden not work anymore. The most uncertain thing will be whether his punching/kicking power goes up proportionally too.

Jones vs Cain is inevitable, the storyline for Cain to avenge DC is already there. Jones is about that challenge, none higher than Cain. Unless Cain falls way off by then. We know Werdum is on deck to fight Jones too. Too bad Overeem trains with Jones... though that didn't stop Jones vs Rashad :shaq:
 

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It's the HW division Cain hasn't faced anyone with Jones talent, and will more than likely lose by next year. Nobody ever holds the HW belt for long.
 

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:huhldup:

This isn't my area of expertise but that is an insane amount in both wrestling and boxing. :huhldup:

Fedor Emelianenko breh.

That said, I think a move to HW would be a bad move for him. He won't have the same mechanical advantage at HW that he does at 205.

We saw what happened when he was in a fight where his mechanical advantage (height, reach) was neutralized - against Gus.

In the HW division, he's actually at a physical disadvantage as he'd be one of the smallest heavyweights competing in the UFC.

His striking will still be formidable at HW, but I can see him being overpowered by some of the bigger guys in the clinch, and on his back. Velasquez in particular would be a bad fight for him.
 
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Fedor Emelianenko breh.

That said, I think a move to HW would be a bad move for him. He won't have the same mechanical advantage at HW that he does at 205.

We saw what happened when he was in a fight where his mechanical advantage (height, reach) was neutralized - against Gus.

In the HW division, he's actually at a physical disadvantage as he'd be one of the smallest heavyweights competing in the UFC.

His striking will still be formidable at HW, but I can see him being overpowered by some of the bigger guys in the clinch, and on his back. Velasquez in particular would be a bad fight for him.

What reality are you basing this, Jones has an 84 inch reach

lmao, Jones is longer reach longer JDS', Cain, and Overeem's lol

Jones is bigger than Cain, at HW he will dwarf Cain when the enter the octagon

Cain's a good, but he's not great, the HW division is depleted in talent

once jones is 30 years old he will have no choice but to be a heavyweight because he will natural keep on weight

people forget how young jones is becasue he's done so much
 

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Damn when did cain become unbeatable? Cain my dude but he hasn't faced NOTHING like bones( but bones face cains similiar strength and skillset in DC)and I've seen them elbows make mufukaz think twice bout applying pressure to bones. It would be a good fight but I jon would pick cain apart. Bones would hit cain from so many angle with so much unorthodox shyt cain pressure game would reduce dramatically.
 

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What reality are you basing this, Jones has an 84 inch reach

lmao, Jones is longer reach longer JDS', Cain, and Overeem's lol

Jones is bigger than Cain, at HW he will dwarf Cain when the enter the octagon

Cain's a good, but he's not great, the HW division is depleted in talent

once jones is 30 years old he will have no choice but to be a heavyweight because he will natural keep on weight

people forget how young jones is becasue he's done so much

You're not comprehending what I said very well. I even said "his striking will still be formidable at HW", and that is due to his reach.

Jones is taller than Cain Velasquez, but by no stretch of the word would you term him to be "bigger" than Cain Velasquez.

Velasquez is a stout, natural heavyweight with a low center of gravity that weighs in at 245 for fights. Jon Jones supposedly walks around at 225-230 naturally. That is a 15-20 lbs weight advantage that Cain has over Jones.

The height advantage of 3" Jones has over Cain is minuscule. If height were a determining factor in fights then Stefan Struve (who actually has the same reach as Jon Jones) would be the dominant force in the HW division - alas he is not.

Jones mechanical advantage at HW is less apparent where the fighters are naturally heavier than him, and the reach advantage that he has over them is not as glaring. He also would not be able to overpower any of the bigger heavyweights; it's actually more conceivable that he gets overpowered himself - especially in the clinch and on his back as I said.

Again, a move to HW would not the right decision for JJ. He should stay at 205 and go down as arguably the greatest MMA fighter of all time.
 
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You're not comprehending what I said very well. I even said "his striking will still be formidable at HW", and that is due to his reach.

Jones is taller than Cain Velasquez, but by no stretch of the word would you term him to be "bigger" than Cain Velasquez.

Velasquez is a stout, natural heavyweight with a low center of gravity that weighs in at 245 for fights. Jon Jones supposedly walks around at 225-230 naturally. That is a 15-20 lbs weight advantage that Cain has over Jones.

The height advantage of 3" Jones has over Cain is minuscule. If height were a determining factor in fights then Stefan Struve (who actually has the same reach as Jon Jones) would be the dominant force in the HW division - alas he is not.

Jones mechanical advantage at HW is less apparent where the fighters are naturally heavier than him, and the reach advantage that he has over them is not as glaring. He also would not be able to overpower any of the bigger heavyweights; it's actually more conceivable that he gets overpowered himself - especially in the clinch and on his back as I said.

Again, a move to HW would not the right decision for JJ. He should stay at 205 and go down as arguably the greatest MMA fighter of all time.

Jon Jones will put on weight when he moves to heavyweight, he can easily add 20 pounds to his frame

and he will be bigger than Cain when the face, and Cain is only to 240, which is why Jon is confident he can beat him

JDS reach is 77 Jones is 84, There isn't even a heavyweight who has a reach of Gus which is 81

Cain has only been TWO five round fights, but you hear this idiots raving about his cardio

Stefan Struve sucks, it has nothing to do with his height, the fact you even brougt this nikka up in comparison to the GOAT MMA fighter
is ridiculous

I'm done, When Jones beats Cains eventually, re up this thread
 

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On one hand, moving up a weight class always brings challenges. But when we saw him beat Cormier, I wondered if he might also beat Cain. And I hate to say so but he really might. I think Cain has sharper striking, and has the obvious advantage of not having to cut weight like Cormier. It will be a thrilling five round battle.
 

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idk who'd i'd , but you can never underestimate Jones, just for how smart he is.


Jones would know that cain relies on his pressure game, so would work hard to bring his skills up to neutralize this.

someone like JDS just kept training the same way, and didn't realize he needed to work hard on his ability to strike while moving backwards.:patrice:

jon jones is smart, and changes his training camp for every fighter he faces
 
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